Nato attacks Pakistan army, Pakistan cuts off U.S. supply lines

Nato attacks Pakistan army, Pakistan cuts off U.S. supply lines

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NATO coalition aircraft forces have allegedly killed 24 Pakistani troops in one of the country’s deadliest friendly fire incidents in almost a decade. The attack occurred in the Baizai area of Mohmand at two separate Pakistani checkpoints around 2 a.m. on Saturday. In a press conference this morning, a NATO spokesman said it was likely coalition airstrikes caused the casualties.

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This could turn into a huge problem for the U.S. If Pakistan closes these supply routes indefinitely the strategic position held in the region will be lost. I'm not sure we should be in the region at all but this could turn into WW3. The citizens of Pakistan are extremely angry. The middle east is spinning out of control and this is just another blow to western relations in the region. The pot is a boiling people.

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it took a lot less than this to spark the last two major wars.

sorry, forgot I am supposed to write more in an opinion.

When the world is sitting on a powder keg, it doesn't much. Take a look at what was the 'initiating' cause of the last two world wars, even add to it other conflicts. The feather that broke the camels back is very applicable in these situations. The American revolution was sparked (hearsay of course) by a single shot.

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The other side of the story -

Nato air attack on Pakistani troops was self-defence, says senior western official

An attack by Nato aircraft on Pakistani troops that allegedly killed as many as 28 soldiers and looks set to further poison relations between the US and Pakistan was an act of self-defence, a senior western official has claimed.

According to the Kabul-based official, a joint US-Afghan force operating in the mountainous Afghan frontier province of Kunar was the first to come under attack in the early hours of Saturday morning, forcing them to return fire.

The high death toll from an incident between two supposed allies suggests Nato helicopters and jets strafed Pakistani positions with heavy weapons.

The deadliest friendly fire incident since the start of the decade-long war also prompted Pakistan to ban Nato supply trucks from crossing into Afghanistan and to issue an order demanding the US quit the remote Shamsi airbase, from which the US has operated some unmanned drone aircraft.

A spokesman for Nato's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said it was "highly likely" that aircraft which had been called into the area to provide "close air support" to troops on the ground was responsible for causing casualties among the Pakistani soldiers.

For their part, a statement by the Pakistani military claimed that it was they who were attacked first, forcing them to respond to Nato's "aggression with all available weapons"...........................

The blame game commences...

I think an alternative to Pakistan should have been found after it was

revealed that Osama bin hidin' was living nice and snug in that safehouse.

Nothing worse than allies who are really your enemy

They can't even be trusted to a fair game of cricket

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Wow things are getting hot over there. I wish western forces had stayed out and left people to there own devices. I just read a thread about the Chinese fighting with Muslims to the east of Pakistan. The whole are is like a fused bomb waiting to blow and we spend billions on war and nothing on peace..

Pakistan was the first to be attacked by NATO ground forces is a load of #.

They have Flags flying on the outpost , its not hard to miss.

Pakistan most likely fired first , and got some bodies full of lead.



Pakistan has attacked NATO troops before CLOSE to the border , and we didnt retaliate , that time is over apparantly.


Quiet honestly , Pakistan that actually has NUCLEAR warheads , supports terrorist attacking the WEST , and have radical religious figure heads in their military , is nearly as big a threat than Iran!

However, Pakistan has enough sense not to threaten the total annilhation of a nation or threatening war such as Iran. If Pakistan starts threatening this , they will most likely have a problem just like Iran has.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
The blame game commences...

NATO officials acknowledge that there was an incident...

Originally posted by purplemer
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Wow things are getting hot over there. I wish western forces had stayed out and left people to there own devices. I just read a thread about the Chinese fighting with Muslims to the east of Pakistan. The whole are is like a fused bomb waiting to blow and we spend billions on war and nothing on peace..

The issue with China and the uighers (sp) is coming back to, of all places, Pakistani ISI. China has verified links between the ouigher (sp) population and support from Pakistan (muslim supporting muslim). Part of me wonders if that connection wasnt the reason China opted NOT to upgrade a Pakistani naval base?

Pakistan has been playing on both sides of the road as well as some side streets now.

getting hit from both directions by 2 ton trucks belonging to the US and China wont end well for Pakistan.

Originally posted by milkyway12
Pakistan was the first to be attacked by NATO ground forces is a load of #.

They have Flags flying on the outpost , its not hard to miss.

Pakistan most likely fired first , and got some bodies full of lead.



Pakistan has attacked NATO troops before CLOSE to the border , and we didnt retaliate , that time is over apparantly.


Quiet honestly , Pakistan that actually has NUCLEAR warheads , supports terrorist attacking the WEST , and have radical religious figure heads in their military , is nearly as big a threat than Iran!

However, Pakistan has enough sense not to threaten the total annilhation of a nation or threatening war such as Iran. If Pakistan starts threatening this , they will most likely have a problem just like Iran has.

edit on 04/30/2011 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)

This is the second post Ive seen of yours now, and wow, just wow. I have to seriously wonder where your head is at? Now you are making assumptions of what happened without even waiting for such a thing as FACTS. But dont let such a simple thing as facts get in the way. By your avatar Id guess youre used to denying facts.
But remember one thing "Thou Shalt Not Kill". What problem does Iran have? They wont bow down to US imperialism? Thats not a problem, thats honourable. By the way you express yourself with words I can only say, you are no christian at all, blinded by hate for other people that you dont understand, because I wonder if you ever let facts guide your opinion on anything. I may be wrong, I base this assumption on 2 of your posts and that is it. So Im open to be corrected.

LOL they cut them AGAIN? Not the first time...prob wont be the last. Just another twist and turn.

if this is not resolved fast, these supplies could end up on the local flea markets.

although the pakistanis are equiped with american weapons, they could get money from the chinese and buy it all for their military.

we will soon need a game program to know who is on what team.

Originally posted by princeofpeace
LOL they cut them AGAIN? Not the first time...prob wont be the last. Just another twist and turn.

and what happened to gps, they don't know where the fronteer is?
or is it just incompetence?

we will never find out why this happened, the diplomats could be having another useless arguement.

"Accidents" like this are going to happen...Pakistan isnt cooperating so the US is having to launch attacks in theri territory. They were hiding OBL fro crying out loud. The last time this happened and Pakistan cut the supply lines both sides agreed the "accident" could have been prevented with more cooperation from both sides.

Originally posted by citizen6511

Originally posted by princeofpeace
LOL they cut them AGAIN? Not the first time...prob wont be the last. Just another twist and turn.

and what happened to gps, they don't know where the fronteer is?
or is it just incompetence?

we will never find out why this happened, the diplomats could be having another useless arguement.

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Considering what you said about my Avatar , apparantly you are used to ignoring facts when it comes to what we call facts , also considering there is one major flaw with every single fact dealing with evolution and the creation of the Universe through scientific means. I highly doubt you even have the capacity to accept that one major flaw. I wonder if you even know what it is.

Secondly , your head is very far up some where where the sun doesnt shine , at least i hope not.

I am not blinded for hatred toward any body. I simply believe if you want war , you should get it. Ill fight it , i could care less , i have one life to give and it doesnt take long to give it , i did my part.

I am very militaristic , all these fools that keep speaking of Imperial America , stop threatening American lifes , taking American lifes , and threatening to kill an Ally , Isreal. Stop slaughtering your own people , and you wont have a problem. If your people want change (Majority) then change is what you get whether government likes it or not.

Im simply not scared of war , and if you threaten , i say take it to them.


You need to learn military operations , and the fall of other Nations / Empires. ITs due completely to a Weak military , or a declining military due to a nation wanting to peace. Just because you want peace doesnt mean your gonna get it , most of the middle east nations want power and land.

Other nations with a stronger military will interrupt trade through threats , bullying , or simple better security. Not enforcing the interest of your nation has many adverse side effects. Maybe you should get off the internet some and actually go learn something in a history class or military science classes.

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PS: If Pakistan military forces engaged US forces , they deserve getting killed. You engaged a military force , of course it will retaliate and kill you.

You dont pull the trigger unless you plan on killing them. Isnt no mercy involved , i always pumped 4 or 5 more rounds into them before i got close to make sure they are dead , is called war. Do your job and move on. Eliminate the threats.

Iran is incompetent of using Nuclear Energy for fear it could build nukes
Pakistan HAS nukes and is incompetent with controlling it's soldiers.

As another poster said they even hid OBL, in a gated area where the Pakistan Army Generals (Or something to the extent of military law enforcement) reside no less. The west needs to take a REAL long hard look at Pakistan, even after the Mumbai Attacks in 08 it came out they were from Pakistan and Indian reporters were talking about the government knowing whilst the attack happened.

It seems to me that you believe what the news media tells you, have you been to Iran, ever had any Iranian friends?
You speak like the bible isnt full of contradiction and myths, you seem to have missed the spiritual lessons within the bible, becoming stuck on someone elses interpretation of what it means. What right does the USA or any nation have to dictate what any other sovereign nation should do?
I understand the military very well, it is honest men and women fighting for a cause that is not what its painted to be, they give up their lives for corporations that couldnt care less about them, they die so a few can profit from their sweat and blood and lives lost. Armies kill fellow human beings in the name of corporate profit and empire building. Im not sacred of war, Im scared of its consequences to my fellow human beings. Sometimes there is no escape from having to fight for whats right. But whats right isnt global domination of mankind, its freedom for all men and women no matter what nation they happened to be born in. Freedom isnt thrust upon nations by bombing them to death. You can think my head is wherever you like, I dont care what you think about me. I just want to do whats right, having learned from studying history that what we are told and whats true are 2 different things.
Fix your own country before trying to fix others.

(Double Post)

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America has its own issues that must be dealt with , but our military is a whole different source.

We are simply trying to give others the ability to form their own government IF THEY want help. If they dont. Then the US probably wont intervene unless it threatens our nation through trade (Which is very important) money no matter how you look at it , is the life blood of a nation. Without money, there is no nation. (Income) trade is just as vital to go to war as a country threatening to attack you. Without an income , and allies, your nation collapses and falls and the enemy swarms you. Trade must be protected.

People need to stop acting like income to a nation isnt the single most important resource.


By the way.


The Biblical Hebrew is unambiguous. It reads "You shall not murder". The word for "kill" is quite different; and the meanings of those two words are also different. Remember, translation is interpretation. This is in particular a problem with the KJV translation. Perhaps other AVers who read Latin and Greek can verify this; but, I believe the Greek Septuagint and the Latin Vulgate are consistent with the original Hebrew...i.e., "murder". Beware though that the text sequence and verse numbers can differ with respect to the 10 commandments in Exodus 20.


The Bible doesnt say Thou shalt not kill.

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There are no contradictions in the Bible. The only thing in the bible are rare translation errors that does not cause any damage to the message it relays in any way , also the translation errors arnt even really translation errors. There are BETTER and more accurate translation words to use. Hebrew words can mean different things.


The KJV , is very accurate text. It simply could have used MORE accurate words when dealing with translation methods that WERE not comprehended in the time the council was assembled.

I dont feel like giving you a four hour lecture on the bible. Name your "Contradiction" and ill fix it for you.

Originally posted by milkyway12
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People need to stop acting like income to a nation isnt the single most important resource.

I say food is the single most important resource.

Originally posted by milkyway12

There are no contradictions in the Bible.

www.infidels.org...
www.philvaz.com...

Originally posted by milkyway12

The KJV , is very accurate text.

Earth being 6000 years old.


www.albatrus.org...

Science totally disproves that Earth is 6000 years old.
Science shows no evidence for a great flood.

Accurate? Really? Now maybe we can get back on topic?

False flag operations like the USS Liberty and the Gulf Of Tonkin, not to mention 911 have been used to get us into wars before. Wars based on lies and deceptions. Dont believe the hype.
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