Native Elders and Extraterrestrial contact

Originally posted by mysterioustranger
Thanks so much. Im glad all of you have posted this. Is is so dear to us with Native American Heritage. It is something we've known all along...but it gets so tiring to have to explain and defend to those who do not know, and who wont believe.

You've expressed much on all our behaves. Thanks.

ATS'ers? Please educate yourselves to the Native American (North, South, and Central Americas) traditions. It will help you in understanding from whence we all came, and just how long these traditions have been held in such high regard.

when living in Arizona, my favorite trail on Superstition Mountain followed an old path that went through a huge bee nest.
the path was hard packed, so the bees had hundreds of holes on each side dug in the desert.

i asked an indian friend what to do if the bees swarmed and came out by the thousands.
he told me to put my hand in front of my mouth and nose so as to not breath in any, to keep my feet on the ground so as to not step on any and to slowly walk out.

a couple weeks later the swarm happened and i did as told and it worked.
the sky above me had so many bees their wings made the air look gold in color.
the sound they made, a great experience.

i learned much about living in the desert, beautyful memories.

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no thank you, great thread.
anyone familiar with chaco canyon may also be familiar with the road system, leading to many other ruins.
i've yet to find much information on the net, yet while on a horseback trip in the area with some native friends i was told a story.
the road system is also a map, called the 'star road', the pueblos, cliff dwellings and especially the kivas represent stars on this huge map.
it's said that there are roads leading as far as mexico city to the south and canada to the north..
sorry, but here's where i need to stop.
the story is in the map as a whole.
i'll link to a few resources for those interested.

satellite images

research archive

sat. image of 'road'.

Sugarcookie, I would have thought of a different avatar with your name but it looks cool. I can't believe in the Pleadies aliens, because to my knowledge the 1st source of them was a hoax, so anybody jumping on the bandwagon just let's me down. To debate whether I believe in something or not also involves gut feeling. If I feel the witnesses or witnesses of witnesses to the event are emotionally honest and evidence put together validates what is true, then I usually believe. It is in my beliefs that native americans in the southwest united states have witnessed real aliens of ET nature performing cattle mutilations and abducting people. These are the occupants of the some of the strange lights being seen in the area during the 1970s. The beings have pointed chins and oval shaped heads. They have white skin and are very skinny, thin arms and fingers. The eyes are black and almond shaped, and the beings do not have clothes on, and they around 5 ft tall with no genital organs. They communicate telepathically, and are interested in earth for soil, genetic harvesting of humans and animals, and psychological/emotional experiments on human beings. They are commonly referred to as the Greys, and have supposedly stopped working in league with the US government due to breaking part of a treaty made at Holloman AFB in 1964.

Originally posted by sugarcookie1
Come on ATS family this took me a week to put together..

peace,sugarcookie1

A week to copy and paste from here:

www.martinkeitel.net...

Seriously????????????????????????

Awsome thread S&F
Have high teck job but like to live in the bush my closest neitbor is 6 mile away
Love my fishing and hunting like to take my 4x4 as far it can go than i love to go for a long walk
peacefull

For the 1 1/2 years my family had siting after siting of crafts, and much contact, we were on the very edge of town, the city glow began with our townhouses. The crafts were low, and would choose to fly straight in which case, we could make out the saucer or the shape, the cigar shape at one point, or arc up way high, and some vanished at the roof. No one, around us paid attention. Not the old folks trailers, the first group directly in front, nor the other townhouses. The native reservation was directly on the other side of the townhouses. They paid attention. My children talked to their friends from the reservation and they were also receiving sitings. Everyone else believed that a low flying object, 50-200 feet over your roof silently was a satellite. Very few people look up and if they see something they usually write it off. The natives had contact, like we did.

My closest friend, native, told me long before I was waking up, and having renewed sitings, about the star people, and the cloud crafts, and shared her obe's and work at night, and I had always thought she was into too many herbs, but also knew she was very truly experiencing some of this, as she visited me and sat at the foot of my bed during her obe, and I got up looked everywhere for her, for I knew she had come over.

The natives are often advanced souls. The mismanagement leadership here on this planet believes in karma and that the advanced are all the wealthy class, but the true wisdom lies in the grass roots people. Wisdom looks up from the bottom of the well, and is not concerned with all the traps of the world, the money, the banks, the separations of people, but learns from the living library of the planet and from spirit.

Money is slavery.

Also, its not going to be thousands of years from now. Soon, sometime soon ish, this upgrade is taking place. We're being upgraded and the school will be taken back and we will be taught directly by them, deprogrammed if you will, the school righted and the true progression that was meant to happen will happen as is meant to. I don't know when, but its not thousands of years from now. No planet that is postive has money. All are equal, and all is shared, there are not gatekeepers, but transparency without patents or ownership. They contribute, part time, and spend much time with family and other pursuits, and learning education is continual and nonstop. In addition, advanced positives do missions, like angel/et's they help and assist the children

this is great, this mirrors my beliefs ive had for years...i am mostly white, but i do have native american blood stemming from the Shinnecock tribe from around the long island area i believe they were slaves in the past, they were recently nationally recognized as a tribe. i tried once to do research on them but couldnt find much, if anyone knows where i can look message me on here..but as for the beliefs you placed on here are exciting and i will read more when i have time! thanx for the post

Good thread.

The tall Caucasian-looking humanoid in white clothing is very corroborative with what countless other observers have noted.

But after that remark, it gets a bit hazy. They see things and beings that they can't fully explain or understand, and then add in their own beliefs giving them just as much backing and credibility. The problem being the ETs are advanced spacefarers; the humans humble but scientifically ignorant and naive tribesmen. In recounting a tale of such cultural importance and mixing the two, the results are rather negative, as Christians are unwittingly well aware of.

Originally posted by sugarcookie1
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

I'm sure you do miss that..working with kids is amazing ..I grew up on a farm and my parents made sure they taught me how to survive and to stand on my own 2 feet i don't know it all but i know enough to be able to survive and make it if anything happens ..peace,sugarcookie1

Funny you should mention know enough to be able to survive. I just got back from Florida.....a base near COCOA Beach. In my spare time...I was body surfing in warm ocean water and enjoying the 88 degree F. temps. Got a nice tan also.......

I fly back to New England.....I live in Western Mass....and ALL HELL BREAKES LOOSE! We get a Nor'Easter SNOWSTORM that dumps HEAVY SNOW....in some areas 12 to 18 inches deep....but the leaves were still on the trees and GIANT OAKS AND MAPLES AND BEECH TREES are not structured to hold this type of weight as the heavy wet snow adhered to the leaves and branches as well as bending cable and power lines and SNAP....CRACKLE....POP......$#!%!......NO POWER.

Most peoples furnaces have electronic egnition systems so they won't work....no TV....most people up here had switched to CABLE TV/telephone/Internet.....so no power for the modem....no phone, TV or Internet.

We had no electricity...except certain people like me....for 7 to 14 days. I have several interconnected generators that light up the house...but one of the damn things went on me. I had heat and food....and since my Family ownes several companies that I help run....I made sure not to be a BASTARD and force them to come in the next day as some companies did....we have piloted Gas Hot Water heaters so....we were able to shower daily....I purposely stoped the sales pitch of...this Gas Water Heater has electronic ignition when it needs to raise the tank temp....with a pilot...you always have HOT WATER!

After about 5 days....people statrted FREEKING OUT....they thought the power would be back on in one or two days....I KNEW FROM THE AMOUNT OF DOWN TREEES AND LIMBS.....that this was going to take a while. In a MICROCOSM.....this small disaster...although for some...they acted like it was the end of days....I saw how SOFT PEOPLE HAVE BECOME.....and if there was ever a REAL DISASTER.....say MAGNETIC POLAR SHIFT....or SUPER VOLCANIC ERUPTION....or even an Asteroid strike of a small radius....say an are the size of Delaware.....the country would have to be placed under MARTIAL LAW!

It made me sad to see how unprepared for even the slightest of inconviniences we are....THIS IS WHY....I believe that every 16 and 17 year old.....during the month of July 6th through Aug. 6th....should be sent to a MANDATORY SURVIVAL....LEADERSHIP....FIRST RESPONDER AID....TRIAGE NECESSITY MEDICAL....PARAMILITARY STYLE LEADERSHIP CONSTRUCTED PROGRAM.

I PROMISE....if this was done....one month for two years.....this country THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.....would gain the fortitude in these future generations to keep our house....ie...country in order....from EVERY STANDPOINT.....helping the week, injured and tired.....to having the discipline to balance our budget....cut waste....use Military Force ONLY when absolutely needed.....and creating kids that turn into MEN AND WOMEN of charachter and SUPREME CONFIDENCE.....ready to tackle ANYTHING OR ANY PROBLEM THAT COMES THEIR WAY.
I KNOW THIS WOULD WORK....FOR I HAVE SEEN IT WORK....ONLY ON A SMALLER LEVEL.
And a person will carry this with them till the day they die....and it will be an HONORABLE DEATH.
Split Infinity

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Thank you for the information and its always good to see what other people think ..peace,sugarcookie1

Sugarcookie,
Most of your original content are falsehoods. Twisted bits of original teachings, from unscrupulous people who sell native spirituality. It's culture theft plain and simple. If you respect Native Americans you wouldn't pass such trash on. Anyone interested can visit here and educate themselves. The Hopi Blue Star prophecy was exposed as a fraud in the early 2000's and the plastic shame-ons who continue to propigate the falsehood are still being sanctioned by the Hopi nation.

While I do not doubt there are Native connections to Star People I also expect you have to be a member of one of the Nations to know of it. It isn't going to be found on the internet.

www.newagefraud.org...

There are many such websites exposing and prosecuting exploiters of Native Prophesy and spirituality. Keyword searches are, Shame-ons, fakers, plastic medicine men ect.....
Some of the material you cited was exposed so long ago you will have to dig thru the older pages to find the topics.

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Hello Trillium..Im glad you liked the thread ..Sounds like you live in a wonderful place ..I love to fish also its so peaceful peace,sugarcookie1

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Thank you Unity_99 for the beautiful post ..peace,sugarcookie1

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Im glad you enjoyed the post Scamzarilla and thank you for posting..peace,sugarcookie1

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Caver78, I will look through the links thank you..sugarcookie1

Originally posted by SplitInfinity

Originally posted by sugarcookie1
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

I'm sure you do miss that..working with kids is amazing ..I grew up on a farm and my parents made sure they taught me how to survive and to stand on my own 2 feet i don't know it all but i know enough to be able to survive and make it if anything happens ..peace,sugarcookie1

Funny you should mention know enough to be able to survive. I just got back from Florida.....a base near COCOA Beach. In my spare time...I was body surfing in warm ocean water and enjoying the 88 degree F. temps. Got a nice tan also.......

I fly back to New England.....I live in Western Mass....and ALL HELL BREAKES LOOSE! We get a Nor'Easter SNOWSTORM that dumps HEAVY SNOW....in some areas 12 to 18 inches deep....but the leaves were still on the trees and GIANT OAKS AND MAPLES AND BEECH TREES are not structured to hold this type of weight as the heavy wet snow adhered to the leaves and branches as well as bending cable and power lines and SNAP....CRACKLE....POP......$#!%!......NO POWER.

Most peoples furnaces have electronic egnition systems so they won't work....no TV....most people up here had switched to CABLE TV/telephone/Internet.....so no power for the modem....no phone, TV or Internet.

We had no electricity...except certain people like me....for 7 to 14 days. I have several interconnected generators that light up the house...but one of the damn things went on me. I had heat and food....and since my Family ownes several companies that I help run....I made sure not to be a BASTARD and force them to come in the next day as some companies did....we have piloted Gas Hot Water heaters so....we were able to shower daily....I purposely stoped the sales pitch of...this Gas Water Heater has electronic ignition when it needs to raise the tank temp....with a pilot...you always have HOT WATER!

After about 5 days....people statrted FREEKING OUT....they thought the power would be back on in one or two days....I KNEW FROM THE AMOUNT OF DOWN TREEES AND LIMBS.....that this was going to take a while. In a MICROCOSM.....this small disaster...although for some...they acted like it was the end of days....I saw how SOFT PEOPLE HAVE BECOME.....and if there was ever a REAL DISASTER.....say MAGNETIC POLAR SHIFT....or SUPER VOLCANIC ERUPTION....or even an Asteroid strike of a small radius....say an are the size of Delaware.....the country would have to be placed under MARTIAL LAW!

It made me sad to see how unprepared for even the slightest of inconviniences we are....THIS IS WHY....I believe that every 16 and 17 year old.....during the month of July 6th through Aug. 6th....should be sent to a MANDATORY SURVIVAL....LEADERSHIP....FIRST RESPONDER AID....TRIAGE NECESSITY MEDICAL....PARAMILITARY STYLE LEADERSHIP CONSTRUCTED PROGRAM.

I PROMISE....if this was done....one month for two years.....this country THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.....would gain the fortitude in these future generations to keep our house....ie...country in order....from EVERY STANDPOINT.....helping the week, injured and tired.....to having the discipline to balance our budget....cut waste....use Military Force ONLY when absolutely needed.....and creating kids that turn into MEN AND WOMEN of charachter and SUPREME CONFIDENCE.....ready to tackle ANYTHING OR ANY PROBLEM THAT COMES THEIR WAY.
I KNOW THIS WOULD WORK....FOR I HAVE SEEN IT WORK....ONLY ON A SMALLER LEVEL.
And a person will carry this with them till the day they die....and it will be an HONORABLE DEATH.
Split Infinity

SplitInfinity, what a great post and i agree with what your saying i think the MANDATORY SURVIVAL school is a great idea the youth could really learn from that something besides how to play video games and tweet there friends..My parents taught me how to plant gardens and how to use a gun for hunting deer for venison ( one of my fav meats) but only during hunting season and grouse ..We always had cattle or pigs and they had me feed them and also showed me many things we can eat that is in the woods like morel mushrooms and wild weeds ..
I now own my own farm and love living the same way my parents do ..Like i said i don't know it all but i know enough that i could make it ..With the world the way it is we should all learn to get back to our grass roots ..Many may not agree with you but i sure do..peace,sugarcookie1

I believe that every kid...at a certain age....should hunt and make a KILL of an animal for food. Gut or dress the animal and learn how specific cuts of meat are made and what and how EVERY SINGLE PART OF LETS SAY...A DEER....can be either eaten or parts such as the intestines used to make sausage ....the bladder....used to hold water like a canteen.....and all the other many uses of an animal.

Most ADULTS....never mind KIDS....have no idea what part of a COW is used to cut a PORTERHOUSE STEAK....or what part of a PIG is where you will cut out a length that when cut between part of the ribs....are PORK CHOPS!

If every kid made a Kill and dressed the animal....as well as prepared it for cooking.....then cooked and ate it.....I think you would find that in these kids homes...MEAT would NEVER be left to expire or wasted.
Split Infinity

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The thing is SplitInfinity, Many people wont go along with that many don't believe in guns or the killing of animals but i do agree with you but its the way i was brought up and it seems you also ..The problem is i don't see that anything is going to change we are going down a path that is going to be the death of us..peace,sugarcookie1

Originally posted by sugarcookie1
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

The thing is SplitInfinity, Many people wont go along with that many don't believe in guns or the killing of animals but i do agree with you but its the way i was brought up and it seems you also ..The problem is i don't see that anything is going to change we are going down a path that is going to be the death of us..peace,sugarcookie1

You know....I could never understand this.....a person will go to an all you can eat GRILL featuring BEEF, CHICKEN, PORK, VENISON, BEAR and FISH. They will chow down all day....but when it comes to the thought of KILLING AN ANIMAL ON A HUNT....they go nuts! They say things such as...the poor little deer!

In Mass. the deer population is OUT OF CONTROL....due to lack of Hunters....so they starve in Winter or Disease sets in. Split Infinity

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I understand your thoughts on the all you can eat GRILL i think the thought is out of site out of mind We have the same thing going on here in Minnesota the deer population is way out of control hunting is down here also.. I went hunting this year on my own property and the weird thing is i saw no does or bucks just little fawns so i got no venison for the winter i wont shot a fawn id rather they grew up for next years hunt ..This is the fist year i haven't shot a deer i was disappointed..peace,sugarcookie1