OWS camp in NYC getting raided - Now .

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by SavedOne

 

I went on for years paying all the bills and mortgage first, it left next to nothing after dog-cat-chicken feed, food for the family cleaning supplies and TP, very few extras and my beautiful deserving intelligent kids did not even own a cell phone or pocket game, no new clothes except back to school and xmas, it has been hard to watch as others got bailed out and received pity because they drove new cars, had all the latest gadgets and went way over their heads to keep up with the Jones.

I could go on, I would love to see a real revolution happen where mediocrity is not rewarded, but those days are over.

That's why you are wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong... YOUR SPIRIT IS DEAD, YOU ARE LITERALLY SLEEPING, WAKE UP TO THE HIVEMIND!!!!

Those who have awoke are NOW lucid in this dream and know the Revolution WILL SUCCEED. It's a pyramid scheme that can't fail....



I am not being sarcastic either! This ish is REAL.

Just be thankful this isn't Syria.

1. Machine gun everyone.
2. Front end loader clear the bodies.
3. Fire hose wash the blood and brains from the area.
4. Park is open and ready for business as usual.

Originally posted by tkwasny
Just be thankful this isn't Syria.

1. Machine gun everyone.
2. Front end loader clear the bodies.
3. Fire hose wash the blood and brains from the area.
4. Park is open and ready for business as usual.

Good idea actually, because that would most certainly ensure OWS would win! After seeing that happen in the US, our troops would storm the mayors house!

I ain't afraid to die, I have faith in god, I KNOW THE REVOLUTION WILL SUCCEED...

I have converted like 10 people myself... They are converting others... Do the math.. The "Occupy Virus" has no vaccine!!

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by cosmickat

 

NO head in the sand, intuitive yes, this is not representative of anything but a waste of time imo.

So, what you are saying is that you "intuitively" know that only 1% of the 99 had any real purpose to their protest? and the rest were homeless slackers who have wasted their time....so by your logic the homeless slackers had nothing but time to waste ( nowhere to go and nothing to do ) so they chose to hang around until they got beaten down by NYPD?

Originally posted by here4awhile
reply to post by antar

 

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go ahead and pick sides...i'm still wide open to it...

it wouldn't be so widespread if not for our government...hate it all you want...label it all you want...it's still the people's freedom of expression...

I lack understanding as to why so many people are supposedly proud to be american, but at the first chance they get want to take away people's right to protest just because they don't personally believe in it...it's so hypocritical to consider yourself a proud american if you're willing to take away other people's right to speak their minds and their unhappiness in our government, unless it coincides with your own personal belief's...

as for the protests being unsanitary in any way...the only one you need to thank is your state government for not allowing urinals for these people...

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Thing is if they were expressing and not just taking over and setting up encampments it may have gone differently. Parks need to be cleaned, they need to be a safe place to take your kids to play, they need to have order and not chaos as they are public places for everyone.

I would no sooner go down to my local park which closes at 6pm, and set up camp to break the rules trying to change the rules. If I were to get involved... I would become a representative for first my community and then my county, I would do it through the system and not through a big party.

Originally posted by antar
Thing is if they were expressing and not just taking over and setting up encampments it may have gone differently. Parks need to be cleaned, they need to be a safe place to take your kids to play, they need to have order and not chaos as they are public places for everyone.

I would no sooner go down to my local park which closes at 6pm, and set up camp to break the rules trying to change the rules. If I were to get involved... I would become a representative for first my community and then my county, I would do it through the system and not through a big party.

Well, I wouldn't want my kids to be down their right now, things will get violent. People are just wanting for more people to wake up before we (not me personally of course) start using guns against the NYPD.


occupywallst.org...

reply to post by cosmickat


Yes. Jump me, call me names, label me but this is how I see it, it is only going to cost those who pay into the care of the states and cities more in the long run. I am not rich or even in the middle class but these movements are going to raise my taxes which will hurt me not make anything better.

I still have not seen a single gathering where anything was substantially raised or where solutions made made any sense.

reply to post by antar


When we allowed unfair competition to ki ll the mom and pop operation we sanctioned the end of the American dream. We sacrificed American jobs for outsourced labor, we sacrificed American quality for Cheap Chinese imports etc…

We have allowed it to become impossible to tell the difference between elected officials and concentrated capital in this country.

You can take it to the bank that monopolistic systems and unfair competition have cost many more American jobs than they have ever provided. In this Wal-Mart nation any moneys we throw at our broken economy just ends up in Chinese coffers!


I have a friend in China that I visit from time to time. The Chinese earn an equivalent wage they just work an 80-90 hour weeks to do so. The Chinese enjoy high quality products, Chinese laws require all products be covered by warranty even. We Americans enjoy the lowest quality cheapest products on planet Earth because our fellow Americans choose to pawn the products off on us and call it a discount. Profits are high selling cra p vs American quality.

You seek to allow these cheat thieves even more control! You seek to further this Fascist state we are waking to!

WAKE UP!!!!

I fail to see how any real American can disagree with this. It is not theory to be dismissed, it is fact!

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by cosmickat

 

Yes. Jump me, call me names, label me but this is how I see it, it is only going to cost those who pay into the care of the states and cities more in the long run. I am not rich or even in the middle class but these movements are going to raise my taxes which will hurt me not make anything better.

I still have not seen a single gathering where anything was substantially raised or where solutions made made any sense.

I have met revolutionaries in Morocco who have had friends killed by their government. People in third world countries all over the world are just waiting for the US revolution to start theirs. And it WILL happen.

You don't think we're serious now, wait till politicians start disappearing

You don't know what Anon is capable of....

reply to post by CREAM


I think they are losing the white collar workers, the services that could have and did join on-board in the beginning, and that has defused this before it even started.

I suspect there are serious changes being made behind the scenes to regroup and come back stronger and more organized, or at least I hope so. When I see the change I wish to become I will join in myself but not like this.

Think about the countries we have seen rebel, nothing changed there either but loads of people were taken to the streets by the millions worldwide, but they also were only a disruption and in the end made matters worse for the poor and common person.

This is going to serve tptb in the end to have even less empathy for the common person and that will equate to a much worse situation in the end.

So now lets set our sights on the Tea Party for a moment. What has the Tea Party accomplished thus far? What is the tea Party going to do to liberate America from the globalists?

Tea Party caucus chair Michele Bachmann and member Ron Paul are both being blatantly silenced by the msm in the GOP debates. Tptb have said numerous times that they will not become President, and you will have to smile and like it while they install their Goldman Sachs puppet, just like what they're doing in Europe.

And what are Tea Party supporters doing? Criticizing protesters, other than that, nothing. They will go out without even a wimper, mark my words. It's time to face reality, the United States is lost, and there's not a damn thing anyone is going to do about it. Roll out the red carpet for the North American Union, and get your cash together to trade in for Amero's.

Accept your new tyrant masters peacefully, don't forget to hand in your guns or they will be taken from you by force. Obama will be re-elected, all according to plan. Just give up and accept it, don't protest. Heavens forbid no, protesting is bad for globalism.

Fill up your cups with poison water and lets toast the incoming nwo. Cheers!

reply to post by CREAM


Now whos being unrealistic!WHO is waiting for the US to'start' the revolution? Lol that is comical.

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by CREAM

 

I think they are losing the white collar workers, the services that could have and did join on-board in the beginning, and that has defused this before it even started.

I suspect there are serious changes being made behind the scenes to regroup and come back stronger and more organized, or at least I hope so. When I see the change I wish to become I will join in myself but not like this.

Think about the countries we have seen rebel, nothing changed there either but loads of people were taken to the streets by the millions worldwide, but they also were only a disruption and in the end made matters worse for the poor and common person.

This is going to serve tptb in the end to have even less empathy for the common person and that will equate to a much worse situation in the end.

edit on 15-11-2011 by antar because: (no reason given)

NOTHING CHANGED IN THOSE COUNTRIES BECAUSE WE, THE USA, ARE THE GLOBAL "ILLUMINATI"

WE DECIDE HOW THINGS WORK IN THIS WORLD

WE SET THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT FREEDOM SHOULD BE

We, you and me, are the only ones who can take down the global banking cartel!

Goldmansachs was already put on trial... They lost.

reply to post by Donkey_Dean


I wish you were here to sit and have coffee with. I like what you have to say but also reserve the right to think that how this is happening will not do what it was intended to do.

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

There are ways of dealing with those problems that are constitutional. This is just an excuse to remove Occupy from the picture, and I don't like it. last I checked, unlawful seizure of one's property and unlawful destruction of that property was unconstitutional.

edit on 15-11-2011 by Evolutionsend because: (no reason given)

Hmmmm

Think about this. If I decided to pitch a tent on your lawn,and tell you its mine,would you have a problem with it?
If I decided to protest,at ANY time of the day, because the size of your house,was bigger then my tent,would you have a problem with it?

Would you want me gone?
Or Would you open your doors,and allow me to stay,because I believe that right is mine ?

Cant squatters already get away with that? Squatters have more rights than the protesters do

Originally posted by cosmickat

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl

Originally posted by generik
new york should have to pay for all the gear they are currently trashing. they easily could have kept them out them brought them in to collect their gear. there is NO NEED to trash private property

now i don't back them but this is JUST SO WRONG

OWS should have to pay for all of the stuff they trashed and all of the costs they have racked up on the cites around the country.

how about asking the fat cat bankers to pick up the cheque for the cleaning crew ...out of their big fat bonus payments that they worked so hard to screw the cities out of?

So if I'm mad at YOU and come to your house and trash your yard you don't mind picking up the check?

Do you not understand that we ALL are paying for the mess they made?

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by CREAM

 

Now whos being unrealistic!WHO is waiting for the US to'start' the revolution? Lol that is comical.

I think you are equally as comical...



IT WILL NEVER END UNTIL ITS WON, PERIOD, END OF STORY

WE WON IN OUR HEARTS, NOW WE ARE ABOUT TO SHOW YOU WE WILL WIN IN REAL LIFE

reply to post by antar


I have certainly not.... nor would I, call you names or label you or anyone else.
You labellled yourself as "intuitive", and all I did was pose the question back to you that you intuitively know that only a fraction of the protestors had any real purpose. You also labelled the rest of the protestors as" homeless slackers".

My initial post was asking what people thought of the level of violence used by NYPD in clearing the park and if there were any opinions on how the violence could initiate a change within the movement which could in effect bring focus and purpose to the movement by raising awareness among those that would not see.

And taxes will continue rise with or without an occupied park. That is nothing to do with the OWS but lies at the at the heart of what they are protesting about in the first place, failing banks, failing fiscal policy and greedy corporations who buy greedy corrupt politicians.

reply to post by CREAM


So the way to truly Occupy the global corporate takeover is to STOP buying the products Stop supplying the world with our cash? Ok so perhaps all the money sent, spent and used for this mini rebellion should have been put to better use. Solutions need to come and I have not seen any yet that will work.

reply to post by cosmickat


You cant fight fire with cotton candy fluff. Its all show and no go. If they had a real direction they could have gathered momentum and not animosity.