What If I Belive In God And Jesus But Dont Have A Religion

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Jesus only exists in the bible and the OP said they believe in Jesus, which means they believe in the bible and to believe in the bible is to have religion.

If you are saved, then you've bought into the dogma of religion, so you too have religion.

You both have bought into religion and are in denial.

I have 101% faith in God, with ZERO bible and ZERO religion. Once you can say that and kNow the truth about God, then you don't have religion. Until then, stop lying to yourselves.

"To Know God, you must first know thyself!" - Old Toad Proverb

If you can correctly answer the "Why?" of that quote, then you have God, until then, you have religion.

Ribbit

You can believe Jesus existed, and take inpsiration from his words, and not be a Christian. Same with Buddha, Krishna and anyone else.

Just because He is mentioned historically mainly in the Bible does not mean that by believing the event occurred (aka Jesus existed) makes you Christian. The city of Jericho was known in the Bible for centuries before its ruins were discovered.

Despite all its BS the Bible is in fact a very accurate historical document. And Jesus words are comparable to many great inspirational minds which exist today and in the past.

Ribbit

Originally posted by 1littlewolf

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Jesus only exists in the bible and the OP said they believe in Jesus, which means they believe in the bible and to believe in the bible is to have religion.

If you are saved, then you've bought into the dogma of religion, so you too have religion.

You both have bought into religion and are in denial.

I have 101% faith in God, with ZERO bible and ZERO religion. Once you can say that and kNow the truth about God, then you don't have religion. Until then, stop lying to yourselves.

"To Know God, you must first know thyself!" - Old Toad Proverb

If you can correctly answer the "Why?" of that quote, then you have God, until then, you have religion.

Ribbit

You can believe Jesus existed, and take inpsiration from his words, and not be a Christian. Same with Buddha, Krishna and anyone else.

Just because He is mentioned historically mainly in the Bible does not mean that by believing the event occurred (aka Jesus existed) makes you Christian. The city of Jericho was known in the Bible for centuries before its ruins were discovered.

Despite all its BS the Bible is in fact a very accurate historical document. And Jesus words are comparable to many great inspirational minds which exist today and in the past.

Ribbit

In that reply, I never once said they had any type of Faith, so your comment about Christian is misplaced. In my first reply, just a couple of posts earlier, I said:

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
If you believe in the bible, which is the only way you can believe in Jesus, then you have religion.

So you have religion, just kNot a specific faith.

Ribbit

So I clearly said they didn't have a SPECIFIC faith, which Christianity is a FAITH.

I swear, you peeps see what you want to see, regardless of how well I form my statements! What have you all done, just tossed logic into the trash can and think without it?

Ribbit

Ps: The bible is no more historically accurate than your current history books.

You have bought into the greatest Con of all Time.

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by 1littlewolf

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Jesus only exists in the bible and the OP said they believe in Jesus, which means they believe in the bible and to believe in the bible is to have religion.

If you are saved, then you've bought into the dogma of religion, so you too have religion.

You both have bought into religion and are in denial.

I have 101% faith in God, with ZERO bible and ZERO religion. Once you can say that and kNow the truth about God, then you don't have religion. Until then, stop lying to yourselves.

"To Know God, you must first know thyself!" - Old Toad Proverb

If you can correctly answer the "Why?" of that quote, then you have God, until then, you have religion.

Ribbit

You can believe Jesus existed, and take inpsiration from his words, and not be a Christian. Same with Buddha, Krishna and anyone else.

Just because He is mentioned historically mainly in the Bible does not mean that by believing the event occurred (aka Jesus existed) makes you Christian. The city of Jericho was known in the Bible for centuries before its ruins were discovered.

Despite all its BS the Bible is in fact a very accurate historical document. And Jesus words are comparable to many great inspirational minds which exist today and in the past.

Ribbit

In that reply, I never once said they had any type of Faith, so your comment about Christian is misplaced. In my first reply, just a couple of posts earlier, I said:

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
If you believe in the bible, which is the only way you can believe in Jesus, then you have religion.

So you have religion, just kNot a specific faith.

Ribbit

So I clearly said they didn't have a SPECIFIC faith, which Christianity is a FAITH.

I swear, you peeps see what you want to see, regardless of how well I form my statements! What have you all done, just tossed logic into the trash can and think without it?

Ribbit

Ps: The bible is no more historically accurate than your current history books.

You have bought into the greatest Con of all Time.

edit on 13-11-2011 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)

Fair call, let me try again:



You can believe Jesus existed, and take inpsiration from his words, and not be a Religious. Same with Buddha, Krishna and anyone else.

Just because He is mentioned historically mainly in the Bible does not mean that by believing the event occurred (aka Jesus existed) makes you Religious. The city of Jericho was known in the Bible for centuries before its ruins were discovered.

Despite all its BS the Bible is in fact a very accurate historical document. And Jesus words are comparable to many great inspirational minds which exist today and in the past.



And now you sneak a PS in on me....

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Ps: The bible is no more historically accurate than your current history books.

You have bought into the greatest Con of all Time.

One day you're going to actually have to explain yourself to me instead of constantly alluding to knowing some great secret and never actually tellling anyone what it is....

Originally posted by 1littlewolf
Fair call, let me try again:

 

You can believe Jesus existed, and take inpsiration from his words, and not be a Religious. Same with Buddha, Krishna and anyone else.

Just because He is mentioned historically mainly in the Bible does not mean that by believing the event occurred (aka Jesus existed) makes you Religious. The city of Jericho was known in the Bible for centuries before its ruins were discovered.

Despite all its BS the Bible is in fact a very accurate historical document. And Jesus words are comparable to many great inspirational minds which exist today and in the past.

To believe the bible, in any way shape form or fashion, is to have religion and regardless if you have a single faith or kNot, it is religious in nature.

I absolutely believe in God 100% with 0% of that coming from the bible. The bible wasn't even written on THIS Earth PLANET. It was written billions and billions and billions of earth years ago.

You have bought into what you've been taught!

"When Wrong is the Teacher, Wrong is the Student and Two Wrongs don't make a Right." - Old Toad Proverb

Ribbit

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

To believe the bible, in any way shape form or fashion, is to have religion and regardless if you have a single faith or kNot, it is religious in nature.

I absolutely believe in God 100% with 0% of that coming from the bible. The bible wasn't even written on THIS Earth PLANET. It was written billions and billions and billions of earth years ago.

You have bought into what you've been taught!

"When Wrong is the Teacher, Wrong is the Student and Two Wrongs don't make a Right." - Old Toad Proverb

Ribbit

So you say.

So how come your the only one in this world that has managed to work out the 'Truth'. What makes you so sure you're right.

And if you do indeed know this Truth, what are you doing frittering your days away on ATS teasing people with nonsensical semi-statements that half appear very enlightening half total gibberish when you could actually be making a difference in this world?

Originally posted by 1littlewolf

And now you sneak a PS in on me....

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Ps: The bible is no more historically accurate than your current history books.

You have bought into the greatest Con of all Time.

One day you're going to actually have to explain yourself to me instead of constantly alluding to knowing some great secret and never actually tellling anyone what it is....

I've been explaining it, just no one is listening.

I keep asking if WE the Souls reside in Perfection, which WE dew, then how could WE properly understand Chaos? Posulating only goes so far and the next step is to run an experiment to see if your postulations are correct or kNot. The problem, WE've been running these experiments for quintillions off earth years and the Earth Endgame Matrix has been ran more than a hundred times, kNot six like the Architect said in the Matrix but he was a proven liar so you can't believe anything he said.

You are part of an experiment and when you were in Soulstate, you kNew that. You've always kNown the truth but kNOW you don't because one of your three connections to the Collective Consciousness has been blocked. That's why I keep saying We are all dumber than a turd because in Soulstate, We knew all that is kNown but in this state, We are only relearning what our person once knew many times over.

Ribbit

Originally posted by 1littlewolf

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

To believe the bible, in any way shape form or fashion, is to have religion and regardless if you have a single faith or kNot, it is religious in nature.

I absolutely believe in God 100% with 0% of that coming from the bible. The bible wasn't even written on THIS Earth PLANET. It was written billions and billions and billions of earth years ago.

You have bought into what you've been taught!

"When Wrong is the Teacher, Wrong is the Student and Two Wrongs don't make a Right." - Old Toad Proverb

Ribbit

So you say.

So how come your the only one in this world that has managed to work out the 'Truth'. What makes you so sure you're right.

And if you do indeed know this Truth, what are you doing frittering your days away on ATS teasing people with nonsensical semi-statements that half appear very enlightening half total gibberish when you could actually be making a difference in this world?

I'm here to find the truth in all of the mistruth that abounds on this site.

Ribbit

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

I've been explaining it, just no one is listening.

I keep asking if WE the Souls reside in Perfection, which WE dew, then how could WE properly understand Chaos? Posulating only goes so far and the next step is to run an experiment to see if your postulations are correct or kNot. The problem, WE've been running these experiments for quintillions off earth years and the Earth Endgame Matrix has been ran more than a hundred times, kNot six like the Architect said in the Matrix but he was a proven liar so you can't believe anything he said.

You are part of an experiment and when you were in Soulstate, you kNew that.

You've always kNown the truth but kNOW you don't because one of your three connections to the Collective Consciousness has been blocked.

That's why I keep saying We are all dumber than a turd because in Soulstate, We knew all that is kNown but in this state, We are only relearning what our person once knew many times over.

Ribbit

And this is exactly what I'm talking about

Originally posted by 1littlewolf

So you say.

So how come your the only one in this world that has managed to work out the 'Truth'. What makes you so sure you're right.

And if you do indeed know this Truth, what are you doing frittering your days away on ATS teasing people with nonsensical semi-statements that half appear very enlightening half total gibberish when you could actually be making a difference in this world?

Maybe you're just not explaining it properly. Why do you believe this? What gave you these insights?

Something about you actually quite fascinates me. Your grasp of science is better than mine, you're obviously not an stupid. your quite well read. And you've got a great sense of humour.

But until you say what makes you think these things it's nothing but another crazy conspiracy theory which there's plenty of here on ATS already. There's no point having all the answers if everyone else thinks your a lunatic.

reply to post by ButtUglyToad

If you stop being a WE and realize the I then you will be home.

Originally posted by 1littlewolf

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

I've been explaining it, just no one is listening.

I keep asking if WE the Souls reside in Perfection, which WE dew, then how could WE properly understand Chaos? Posulating only goes so far and the next step is to run an experiment to see if your postulations are correct or kNot. The problem, WE've been running these experiments for quintillions off earth years and the Earth Endgame Matrix has been ran more than a hundred times, kNot six like the Architect said in the Matrix but he was a proven liar so you can't believe anything he said.

You are part of an experiment and when you were in Soulstate, you kNew that.

You've always kNown the truth but kNOW you don't because one of your three connections to the Collective Consciousness has been blocked.

That's why I keep saying We are all dumber than a turd because in Soulstate, We knew all that is kNown but in this state, We are only relearning what our person once knew many times over.

Ribbit

And this is exactly what I'm talking about

Originally posted by 1littlewolf

So you say.

So how come your the only one in this world that has managed to work out the 'Truth'. What makes you so sure you're right.

And if you do indeed know this Truth, what are you doing frittering your days away on ATS teasing people with nonsensical semi-statements that half appear very enlightening half total gibberish when you could actually be making a difference in this world?

Maybe you're just not explaining it properly. Why do you believe this? What gave you these insights?

Something about you actually quite fascinates me. Your grasp of science is better than mine, you're obviously not an stupid. your quite well read. And you've got a great sense of humour.

But until you say what makes you think these things it's nothing but another crazy conspiracy theory which there's plenty of here on ATS already. There's no point having all the answers if everyone else thinks your a lunatic.

It's said that truth is stranger than fiction and factually, it is.

I'm waiting to fully explain this once I've done a few other things first, since the truth goes squarely against what peeps want the truth to be so the only way they'll listen is if their minds are ready for it and their minds aren't ready for it yet.

Ribbit

Ps: Thanks for the compliments! I'm actualy kNot too learned but I dew learn as I go. The key is to ask the right questions.

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If you knew the truth you wouldn't be asking any questions.

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ButtUglyToad

 

If you knew the truth you wouldn't be asking any questions.

"The birth of a question is what begins the Circle of Life and the answer completes the circle, for another question to be born from, to continue the circle forever." - Old Toad Proverb

The answer to a question only creates another question but if you kNew that, you wouldn't have opened your mouth to prove you're a fool.

I never quit questioning for one cannot ever know the truth if they quit questioning because the only way to ever kNow the truth is to always question your truths, even when you kNow they are the truth.

Ribbit

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The question is the birth of a separate confused individual. When the questions cease then you know the truth.
The question is the confusion (the ego) and you will continue to ask questions until the truth is seen.
It is one.

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
It's said that truth is stranger than fiction and factually, it is.

I'm waiting to fully explain this once I've done a few other things first, since the truth goes squarely against what peeps want the truth to be so the only way they'll listen is if their minds are ready for it and their minds aren't ready for it yet.

Ribbit

Ps: Thanks for the compliments!

I'm actualy kNot too learned but I dew learn as I go.

The key is to ask the right questions.

Hmmm....

People always have something better to do before they post their version of truth. And most ppl won't ever want to hear it. Let me know when your ready.

Maybe you should write a book like NorEaster

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Don't stop them! I love a Guru bitch fight!

Akushla

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You would!!!!!

reply to post by Itisnowagain


Especially in a word mince!

Akushla

reply to post by akushla99


Wait til he jumps on a NorEaster thread....

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ButtUglyToad

 

The question is the birth of a separate confused individual. When the questions cease then you know the truth.
The question is the confusion (the ego) and you will continue to ask questions until the truth is seen.
It is one.

edit on 13-11-2011 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)

You are a fool!

Until you wake up it won't dew any good to show you anything because a fool refuses to see the truth for a fool doesn't question themselve's and anyone that ever stops questioning themselve's, is a fool and you just proved beyond a shadow of doubt, that you are a fool.

To seek the truth is a never ending qwest, which requires questioning forever.

Ribbit

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Can't get the image of bikini'd Gurus trading metaphysical blows in a childs pool full of jelly...


Akushla