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We really ARE alone ("Aliens" are not "E.T's" they are "E.D's")

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posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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You tell me to use my brain but are you using yours? Can you not see all the brainwashing of extraterrestrials in the movies and music videos these days? Do you think this is not happening for a reason?


Oh, it's for a reason alright. After the deal with the Grays was made, it was thought prudent to "sell" the aliens to the populace, making them "cute and cuddly." Imagine their surprise when it was discovered that the Grays were not intent on keeping their deals, that they in fact worked for and was controlled by a powerful and sinister force. Have you noticed of late that the aliens are not cute anymore? that they are more sinister?
Eisenhower’s 1954 Meeting With Extraterrestrials



posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Here is an even better link, this one actually shows that the Bible did in fact speak of life on other worlds, and the craft they fly.
Spacecraft in the Bible



posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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I'm interested to know which science-fiction new age book you found that heresy in? I'm compiling a list of every book that try's to say Jesus was an alien so people can stay well clear from that complete and utter blasphemous deception.


Well, how else do you explain how he came, and how he left? I know there are some who try to "church it up" but the facts remain. Jesus said, "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world." (John 8:23) What do you think the term, not of this world means, anyway? If one is not of this world, then one is, by definition, an Alien, an extraterrestrial being. An EBE. The man had more knowledge than any other human did, like how to rearrange the molecules of water and change it into wine? And how about his skills in gravity control and manipulation? If I had that knowledge, I could walk on water too. The theological differences between competing groups of early Christians were so great that they make modern day differences between Catholics and Protestants look awful insignificant by comparison. Early Christianity was deeply divided over who Jesus Christ was, and where or not he was Divine. Ancient Christians believed the Holy Spirit is Female, and She is the true Mother of Jesus Christ, not Mary. If Jesus Christ told people he was a space alien, nobody would have known what it meant.The ancients had no concept of extra-terrestrial life, nor of outer space. To them, the stars were imbedded in a ceiling just above the earth.To them, the planets were nothing but wandering stars on their astrology charts. If they saw a UFO, it was attributed to the Glory of the Lord. If they saw an ET Being, it was said to be a Demon, Angel, or Monster of some sort.Telling people about life on other planets, and ETs visiting Earth back then would have resulted in much unnecessary confusion. If Jesus Christ were a EBE, the best thing for him to do would be to do exactly what he did – tell people he was from heaven, but leave his precise nature a mystery. Trouble is, the Nician Council turned him into a Divine God, and now most Christians believe that, even without knowing the origin thereof.



posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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The governments opinion doesn't really matter at this point. Don't you see them becoming more and more translucent in your life?...for me I feel as though their existence is slipping out of my experience and when I do listen to what the government how to say I look at them as if they are very distant from my reality...now is the time of the people.


'Higher' beings will show themselves regardless of the government....



posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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Yep the Bible even predicted the internet:

Daniel 12:4 ...'even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.'


Wow.
Ambiguity reigns...




I'm interested to know which science-fiction new age book you found that heresy in? I'm compiling a list of every book that try's to say Jesus was an alien so people can stay well clear from that complete and utter blasphemous deception.


Apparently, censorship is also the way forward...
Why, does one book compiled with a political motive gain precedance over a book written with an entertainment motive?
...and more importantly, why do you believe you qualify to make the judgement of what insults your god? Some would consider that itself blasphemy by implying he could be offended so easily by man and more so by equating yourself with somekind of 'Earth guardian' for God.



posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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I personally think there are aliens out there but not contacted.


Actually, there has been "contact" since 1954.
Eisenhower’s 1954 Meeting With Extraterrestrials

Deals were made, the Aliens were from Zeta Reticuli. They offered Technology in return for bases underground, and the right to abduct humans and cattle. A little after that, another group arrived, from the Pleiadies, and they offered to help humankind to elevate their Spiritual awareness, in return for getting rid of all nuclear weapons. They were politely refused.
The Gerald Light Letter supports this meeting at Holloman AFB. Here is the briefing document for President Eisenhower:
Eisenhower Briefing Document

Then a visitor came from Venus.
Valiant Thor from the Planet Venus

When asked where he (Thor) came from, he replied, "The inside of the planet your Bible calls the morning and the evening star." I said, "Venus?" He said,
"Yes, Venus."

Visitors From Venus

This is a transcript of a radio interview conducted by Art Bell on his "Dreamland" radio program on Sunday night,
October 1st, 1995. It deals with Dr. Stranges meeting of a man from Venus, Valiant Thor, at the Pentagon in Washington, D.C., in the late 1950's as well as other UFO and religion related subjects. Linky

Then we have Colonel Philip Corso, and our own member, Sgt Clifford Stone.

We have been contacted.



posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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Isn't it strange that there are no official classified documents opened to the public after so many years?
Haven't you thought these informations are fabricated in purpose?
I think ruling elites made up these information in purpose to manipulate their agents.
You can't move people only with money. You need something noble or big secret to create secret society or secret government.
In the past it was usually related to religion based on esoteric beliefs, but nowadays alien stuffs are added for their use.
If these stuffs turned out to be fake, those secret organizations will have big trouble inside because nobody will follow their order.
I think these information are made up for certain people in power to manipulate their men.



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posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by mirine
Isn't it strange that there are no official classified documents opened to the public after so many years?

England and other countries did reveal classified documents about UFOs and alien visitation to the public, except the United States. My own theory is that maybe american politicians fear of being ridiculed by their own citizens, and not being taken seriously, in case they take step to release that kind of information. Maybe the american politicians fear their own citizens saying this >>What the h... Now we have this f...... economic crisis situation! Don't they have better things to do than talking about ALIENZZZ??? Did i really vote for these people??? It's getting worse and worse! Geez...



posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by mirine
Haven't you thought these informations are fabricated in purpose?

This is a good example of disinformation


This photo was taken at the NASA Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base, California on 6 May 1960 as part of an elaborate effort by the CIA to cover-up the true nature of the U-2 spy plane program. On 1 May 1960 CIA pilot Francis Gary Powers was shot down over the Soviet Union during a spy flight. Cooperating with the CIA, NASA issued a press release with a cover story about a U-2 conducting weather research that may have strayed off course after the pilot "reported difficulties with his oxygen equipment." This photo shows a U-2 that was quickly painted in NASA markings, with a fictitious NASA serial number, and put on display for the news media at the Edwards NASA facility.

In reality, up to that time no U-2 was ever used by NASA. Unfortunately, Powers was captured by the Soviet Union and espionage equipment was recovered from the wreckage. Soviet Premier Nikita Khruschev exposed the cover-up and made much propaganda use of the American deception.

Alleged briefing to Ronald Reagan on alien threat from outer space


PUBLIC INFORMATION, DISINFORMATION

The Caretaker:

“In order to protect all this information and the fact that the United States Government has evidence of our planet being visited by extraterrestrials, we developed over the years a very effective program to safeguard the information. We call it ‘Project DOVE.’ It is a complex series of operations by our military intelligence agencies to disinform the public.”

"Punishment" for former servicemen, corporate employees or witnesses brave or ‘foolish’ enough to come forward to reveal classified information


The strategies for dealing with those former servicemen, corporate employees or witnesses brave or ‘foolish’ enough to come forward to reveal classified information is to intimidate, silence, eliminate or discredit these individuals. This policy involves such strategies as removing all public records of former military service men or corporate employees, forcing individuals to make retractions, deliberately distorting statements of individuals, or discrediting individuals

Pleiadian contactee Billy Meier


Meier claimed the visitors charged him with certain informational and consciousness-raising tasks as he undertook this mission, he met with a great deal of scorn and assassination attempts. Some of these were allegedly initiated by hostile extraterrestrial entities and subsequently defeated largely through the intervention of his Plejaren friends.
Some of the most important evidence for Meier's claims come from his large collection of controversial photographs. These include images of alleged spacecraft in the Swiss countryside, the Apollo-Soyuz 1975 docking and distant astronomical phenomena. Supporters insist that the images are exceptionally high quality and that a one-armed man could not possibly have fabricated them.
Critics such as Stanton Friedman and Jacques Vallée believe them to be fakes. Some critics have provided examples of similar faked photos and have pointed out that some of his photos are taken from science fiction books, paintings and television programs.
Meier claims that these photos were altered by intelligence agencies and slipped into his collection in order to discredit his UFO testimony.
The metal alloy samples are said to have been given to Meier by the Plejarens and then passed on to Wendelle Stevens who then had them tested by chemist Marcel Vogel. Vogel said that in his view the samples could not have been made by means of contemporary earthly metallurgy as they were apparently produced via cold fusion. Vogel also stated that the metal vanished from the IBM laboratory not long after his work was completed which prevented other scientists from performing their own analyses on it!

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posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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I'm interested to know which science-fiction new age book you found that heresy in? I'm compiling a list of every book that try's to say Jesus was an alien so people can stay well clear from that complete and utter blasphemous deception.


One may only need to read the Book of Ezekiel, to possibly come to the assertion that God and his angels were aliens.



posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

Originally posted by neobludragon
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They just want to keep us in the dark, they don't want us to leave this planet. I really hope a galactic war happens sooner or later. This kinda thing really pisses me off how they deny the existance that there is life elsewhere. How can there not be? The universe is keeps growing and growing every single day. Yet they're saying "nah theres no life elsewhere" B.S.


Would help if you watched the video first, then you would know why their's no life outside of earth.

Also regarding "galactic war" that sought of thing only happen's in starwars... There is a war going on but its spiritual warfare, and you can't see it.


"There is a war going on but its spiritual warfare, and you can't see it."

read the the black awakening russ dizdar, the war is very visible.



posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Are you kidding me? This video is simply a compilation of generalities wrapped up in uncalculatable statistical conclusions.

They talk about all the factors necessary for life....honey bees, fresh/salt water intermixing, atmospheric convection? Does any of this stuff matter to the microbes living in Yellowstone's thermal vents, or sea worms living in the mud at 3,000 feet below the surface? Arrogant and absurd.

They talk about a universe devoid of life or conditions for life? Really? We know nothing about the universe, heck we don't even know much about our own solar system.

These people have no credibility because they lack curiosity. They pretend to search for truth but do not pursue the search with honesty. They start with their conclusion and then work backwards. Biased agenda lead to biased results.



posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by mustfarhan
I agree with OP this point was raised in the youtube series Arrivals, its in different languages and made by noreaga, Problem with people are that they do not want to come out from fantasy world. If i say honestly then probality teachs us that there should be life in Universe. But it does not define which kind of life. But now if we see the incidents of interactions of this ET of ED we realize that 80% chances are this ET is actually ED as they do not obey the rules of physics, so both points are proved. Yes there is life but of its on kind.

Anyone remember Babylon2 They discuss the sheeple by saying that people are starving for karisma. One suggest a trick of et. when lucifer will be here i am sure people starving for ET will follow him as their lord. Most of our reasoning of life development in universe is based on Darwins theory of evoloution. But if that theory is false, how you can see life developing in other parts of galxy or universe. i do believe there would be aliens but where they are who knows but those who are contacting us are EDs


4th dimension doesn't mean they wouldn't obey the laws of physics. Anti-gravity is used today, assuming that's what you're refering to. And 80% chance, huh? You must have pulled some pretty hardcore statistics ##snip## to come up with that number.



posted on Nov, 11 2011 @ 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by mysterioustranger
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If thats true my friend...then why do you limit your own knowledge? Many new things never before heard and discovered appear everyday. Yet, you seem to turn of all possibilities of new revelations of the Lord, if its not in the Bible. There will always be things to learn...gifts as yet unknown...FROM god. And worlds to discover. Maybe he even put MORE of us believers elsewhere? God IS pretty great, dont you agree?


The Bible tells us everything we need to know whilst we're living as mortals. All is revealed in God's word.



posted on Nov, 11 2011 @ 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by autowrench
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You tell me to use my brain but are you using yours? Can you not see all the brainwashing of extraterrestrials in the movies and music videos these days? Do you think this is not happening for a reason?


Oh, it's for a reason alright. After the deal with the Grays was made, it was thought prudent to "sell" the aliens to the populace, making them "cute and cuddly." Imagine their surprise when it was discovered that the Grays were not intent on keeping their deals, that they in fact worked for and was controlled by a powerful and sinister force. Have you noticed of late that the aliens are not cute anymore? that they are more sinister?
Eisenhower’s 1954 Meeting With Extraterrestrials


Even if the government made a deal with such entity's it doesn't disprove them as being extra-dimensional beings, most of the people in charge have already pledged allegiance with satan. The grays are fallen angels/nephilim spirits.



posted on Nov, 11 2011 @ 02:23 AM
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I've read it what I meant was we can't see all of it. We are only starting to see parts of the battle but as time go's on it will intensify and more people will become deceived.



posted on Nov, 11 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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Divine entity's are much more plausible then Alien lifeforms. Atleast we have historical evidence of Angelic beings. However their is absolutely no proof of little green men flying in a space craft from "planet Zurtron" to earth.

What you displayed was not "Creative thinking" but a typical person trying to make up alternatives to the truth that are no where near reality so you can carry on making excuses for living a selfish life that's all about 'you' instead of surrendering to Christ your living GOD.
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posted on Nov, 11 2011 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by WannabeMartian
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There is no god and there are no demons. Keep an open mind, and look again.


Oh the irony.
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posted on Nov, 11 2011 @ 02:56 AM
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We have a friend that was a priest and now a world known archeologist. The "Bible" has not only been mistranslated but at every single mention of God (singular) it was mistranslated and should have read Gods (plural).

Are you aware of the number of books that were removed from "The Bible"?

Start watching "Ancient Aliens"



www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com...

While I am spiritual..................It is my premise that all major religions are the biggest bunch of BS and again in my humble opinion invented to manipulate and control humanity.

By who? That is the 50m question?

My religion consists of being a decent, honest, loving and caring human.

And...............sorry, no we are not alone, have never been alone.

Wishful thinking, not wanting to face our reality and personally I believe the ones calling the shots currently do not have our best interest at heart.

Possibly you may wish to research deeper into this subject.

I've been researching this for over 38 years and while I do not propose to have the answers, the older I get and the more I research and I don't watch TV and rarely read light fluffy stuff............the less I realize we know.

There are multi facet situations going on and that in and of itself makes this subject hard to pin down because you are in the realms of different dimensions, multiverses, parallel worlds, other star systems and time lines. We may be looking at some of the above or a few of the above, combinations of various beings coming from various realms.

I've just started researching sacred geometry and quantum physics (simplified, I'm no wiz) and all I can say is none of us can begin to fathom what is at this point really going on.

If you read any books at all I suggest

The Gods of Eden By William Bramley
The Resonant Factor by Dennis Whiteman
Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot
and both of Richard Dolan's books


No, I don't go to UFO conventions, no I've never been taken to Venus and met Commander XYU, nor do I do drugs............I do like a small glass of Merlot wine before bed while taking a soak about 4 out of 7 days a week.

Again, sorry - we are not alone and have never been alone since we were spilled out of a gene splicer.

So many books were removed from the Bible, so many things were mistranslated and our Holy Books do not come from "God" they are simply human beings writing down their perception of history.

Another thing to consider...............the great library at Alexandria that was burned down and what is stashed away in the Vatican both probably had and have some of our real history.

Once you close off your mind and heart to different possibilities, you limit yourself and your potential.

Again, in my humble opinion -- we are like drops of water and "god" is the ocean.

And yes humanity is at war. It's been a covert invasion vs a open overt invasion and one man's demon is another man's other dimensional being.

Safe journey to us all.
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posted on Nov, 11 2011 @ 03:53 AM
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The irony is apparently lost on you, as you don't see that your "faith" blinds you and closes your mind. You cannot have faith unless you remove all the "?'s", and change them to "!'s".

Having an open mind is not the same as believing anything no matter how illogical or improbable it is. It's actually about being open to constantly changing your views and ideas as new evidence presents itself. Which by definition is the opposite of religion.



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