Herman Cain Sexually Harassed Me...

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Yes. It occurred to me that a - Wag the Dog - opportunity could help Obama divert attention
away from the terrible economy.
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Time will tell.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by illuminatislave

 

In my experience conservative women don't put up with it.

On the other hand liberal women sometimes turn it all into a big joke.
All men cheat. So what?

This is sounding like a Dr. Phil episode.
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BTW, truth be told is Bill Clinton cheating on Hillary right now???

Its funny how mods tell you to report folks for political baiting or trolling, and when you actually do, they can't be bothered to do anything about it.

reply to post by whaaa


yes that is exactly what i have been thinking.

WHEN DOES AN INNOCENT MAN PAY OFF AN ACCUSER? WHEN HE IS NOT INNOCENT!

Can I just remind people ...

Originally posted by letscit
reply to post by whaaa
WHEN DOES AN INNOCENT MAN PAY OFF AN ACCUSER? WHEN HE IS NOT INNOCENT!

This has been the sticking point for me. Although Cain didn't personally pay these ladies off, the NRA did. And they wouldn't do that for 'baseless' accusations..

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I'm sorry to interrupt... but might I suggest using a different pic for that... at first glance it didn't look like a fish in his mouth.. just sayin

Irrelevant.. yes I know.. carry on

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

I kind of like Newt. My only problem with him is that he is so entrenched in the government for so long, but in the debates he kills it. He is direct, and funny, and has great insight.

He also makes Cain look like a choir boy!

Even conservative women voters will never forgive him for leaving his wife with cancer for a younger, prettier woman.

lonestarbear.blogspot.com...

"Family values" indeed............

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by Xtrozero

 

You are talking a really big talk, but I'm actually kinda shocked that you don't have more information to back up your statements, considering how you've come in here like gangbusters.

For example: Not all "psychopaths" pass polygraphs. And why are you talking about psychopaths?
Herman Cain is surely not one. Of course, you must go much further than "psychology 101", to learn these things. Psyche one can do more harm than good, if one tries to exercise it without further knowledge. Just stick with Pavlov's dogs, and the executive monkey. You should be fine.

Women sometimes have made false claims about sexual assault, sexual harassment, because they might be attention seeking, or because they might be bored with their lives, and want to stir up some excitement.

But you left out the other category of women who make these claims:

They are true.

Which is more often the case.

Read my post again..... and compare it to the quoted one....

reply to post by whaaa


I don't know about that. Although, I do think there is a major trust issue, but these days folks are de-sensitized to adultery and divorce that I don't think they really care anymore. Honestly, I don't really care. I'd much rather have a cheating husband who was also a strong leader compared to a perfect angel that didn't exude any confidence or authority. BUT, that means cheating with consenting woman, not coercing, abusing, or assaulting women.

I'm not saying I condone it, I'm just saying if they were otherwise a good leader with a sound record, I would take the good with the bad.

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by Xtrozero

 

You know, I'm gonna tell you something. I can't tell you how many times in my life I've had a man in a car put his hand on my knee, and try to go further up. I can't tell you how many times I've had a hand on the back of my head pushing me towards a mouth, or even somewhere else. I've been lucky like this woman was, because when I resisted, it stopped.

One of the first things you do is refer to your boyfriend. Why? This lets the guy know:

1. I have a boyfriend, and I'm not interested in you.
2. I have a boyfriend, and if you start trouble with me, you start it with him, too.

How many times have you had a boss do this? So out of place it should be a shock, unlike a date, where it might be expected at times. For me, and I'm not really arguing with you on it, it just seems funny that she had to read her quoted words and not just say them, and how she changed her voice to say it...all seemed fake.

Originally posted by Xtrozero
For me, and I'm not really arguing with you on it, it just seems funny that she had to read her quoted words and not just say them, and how she changed her voice to say it...all seemed fake.

If I were going to be on national TV tomorrow, for the first time in my life, in the middle of a HUGE political scandal, and my incriminating statement was going to be shown over and over on all news programs and repeated in print and on the Internet for posterity... I know for a fact that I would write down every single word. I wouldn't want to go blank, say something I didn't mean out of nervousness or forget to include an important fact...

You might choose to 'wing it' but I would judge that as a very foolish thing to do.

I don't know what you mean about her voice changing, but there were reporters, cameras and lights all around. My voice may sound a little frantic or different as compared to being seated in comfortable studio for a calm interview...

I think people finding fault with these women, especially for having a written statement, have another agenda.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by whaaa

 

I don't know about that. Although, I do think there is a major trust issue, but these days folks are de-sensitized to adultery and divorce that I don't think they really care anymore. Honestly, I don't really care. I'd much rather have a cheating husband who was also a strong leader compared to a perfect angel that didn't exude any confidence or authority. BUT, that means cheating with consenting woman, not coercing, abusing, or assaulting women.

I'm not saying I condone it, I'm just saying if they were otherwise a good leader with a sound record, I would take the good with the bad.

How about pedophilia, bestiality, spousal or child abuse, DUI, where do you draw the line? If at all.

If you can't trust a man to be true to his wife and children, how can you trust him to be true to the voters?

Excusing scumbags because of their ideology seems a bit short sighted and naive. Just like some members are doing with Cain.

Originally posted by Xtrozero
2. Her reply to this physical action was... " I have a boy friend" and the way she said it was as if she was reading a line from a play being a really bad actor.

Last year, a man in the parking lot of Albertson's approached me and asked me if I would join him for a beer. He hit on me. I smiled and thanked him but said, "I don't think my husband would like that too much". It's VERY natural and almost a base instinct for a woman who is being propositioned to mention that she's already taken.

My first thought when I heard that she'd mentioned her boyfriend was that she thought Herman was hitting on her (however clumsily) and she wanted to let him know that she was taken.

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It's VERY natural and almost a base instinct for a woman who is being propositioned to mention that she's already taken.

I thought all women automatically said "no" and made some lame excuse at the first proposition? If a woman ever said yes to me on the first attempt, I'd think something was fishy, panic, and bail out!!

My wife is hit upon daily. She looks very young, and she is petite, and this is a college town, and she is good at giving a polite brush-off, but that only works about 50% of the time. She often has to be more assertive, and on occasion she has to actually strategize to exit the area, or get inside a business, or create a distraction.

Men these days are pretty aggressive and bold, and I don't really understand what gives them the nerve?

She has even requested that I pick her up at work in my biker vest a time or two, just to make sure someone can get a good look at me and hopefully change their mind on their intentions, LOL!

reply to post by whaaa


Of course there is a limit. I think an occasional indiscretion might be overlooked if the man is a good provider and the family seems otherwise happy, but certainly nothing more than that. No sex addictions, secret families or long-term mistresses, no beastiality, etc.

DUI's is something I would completely overlook. The alcohol limits are so low these days, I pretty much ignore any DUI unless an accident was involved. You can get a DUI for passing out in your own driveway with your keys in your pocket.

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I know you weren't asking me, but you know how I am.

Originally posted by whaaa
How about pedophilia, bestiality, spousal or child abuse, DUI, where do you draw the line? If at all.

If a man has an affair, he MIGHT be breaking an agreement with his wife. But he might not. We aren't privy to the details and we shouldn't be. It's between the two of them and not our business. And it's up to them to resolve it. However, if he abuses his power, abuses the innocent or breaks the law, that's something that definitely speaks to his character. That's where I draw the line, anyway. I think his marriage is personal

Originally posted by Sparky63

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth

He is either the horniest, sex crazed maniac ever.... Or.... it's a smear campaign.

I think Bill Clinton has the title for "horniest sex crazed maniac ever". His whole political career seemed to be a never ending bimbo eruption.

True, but the bimbos loved him.

Cain is a predator and forces himself on these women. Therein lies the difference. One is extremely immoral while the other is criminal behavior.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

I think people finding fault with these women, especially for having a written statement, have another agenda.

edit on 11/9/2011 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)

As I said before I'm not really defending the man other than these women come out after over a decade with this and NEVER went to court or processed anything official other than to settle with their HR department as severance pay at best. On top of that, most are very affiliated with the democratic party, much more than the average person is...

If it was a big deal then it should have been processed as a big deal over a decade ago...Hell, on at least one of them, but none were, so it is their word only, AND they have much to gain from this...

I don't see bravery in these women...only opportunity.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Last year, a man in the parking lot of Albertson's approached me and asked me if I would join him for a beer. He hit on me. I smiled and thanked him but said, "I don't think my husband would like that too much". It's VERY natural and almost a base instinct for a woman who is being propositioned to mention that she's already taken.

If that man grabbed you in the crotch and then grabbed your head and pulled it to his would you say the same thing? If one of your fellow workers did the same you just say... I have a boy friend?

That is my point...