YU55 Closer Than JPL Indicates?

ABOUT ONE MINUTE LEFT FOR IMPACT! BRACE YOURSELVES!

reply to post by TomServo


Here's a thought that hasn't (I assume) been discussed. What if it hits the moon? What would be the consequences of that
???

Originally posted by ATSCurious
reply to post by TomServo

 

Here's a thought that hasn't (I assume) been discussed. What if it hits the moon? What would be the consequences of that
???

It has been discussed on here, many, many times. There would be no consequences other than a shiny new crater on the moon.

Hey man, first I have a lot of respect for you going out and figuring the numbers yourself.

However, the problem with your calculation is that a linear interpolation doesnt apply in polar coordinates (radial distance from earth) as you approach the origin (earth)

The function (in POLAR coordinates) is HEAVILY NONLINEAR you approach the origin. The bump in the jpl data represents this as it displays the expected (its related to an inverse sec function after the coordinate transformation)

The use of linearization in this scenario forces your function unrealistically close to the earth.

Suffice it to say, I'll rework the calculations if it would make you all feel better but given the correlation between your data and the gov when the linear approximation is true (sufficiently large distance from earth/origin), I'm going to assume the gov guys made the coordinate transfer properly

I'm a Honors Math/Physics major at a top university(blue collar kid) and have done astrophysics research on CME's (solar flares - there is cause for concern there in that this solar maximum will be INCREDIBLY active but thats for another board). Suffice it to say, I've done and seen lots of calculations like this, but the flaw was in the missed coordinate transfer

So to sum it up, the GOV DATA APPEARS TO BE RIGHT... IMPACT HIGHLY UNLIKELY

I've been reading the boards for a few months now, glad to finally be part of the community!

Keep Spreading the Truth

reply to post by oxbow


Thanks for the reassurance and guess I'm just getting s bit edgy. It's not everyday something of this magnitude happens!

reply to post by TomServo


This was a very good thread, thank you.
I learned a thing or two while reading, and the panic crowd made it very entertaining.

Very interesting thread, especially considering how close it is to the 11/11/11 date, upon which I think something freaky will happen. I found this link which is interesting, I am not sure how reliable it is, but I downloaded the book and started reading it, very interesting how it does predict the Arab Spring.

______beforeitsnews/story/1312/850/Controversy_Erupts_at_Vatican_over_November_11,_2011.html

I think something will happen before or on 11/11/11

Originally posted by ATSCurious
reply to post by oxbow

 

Thanks for the reassurance and guess I'm just getting s bit edgy. It's not everyday something of this magnitude happens!

I wouldn't take anything too seriously here, things like that are posted often, it's a conspiracy board. As soon as this passes there will be another comet or asteroid or something else. Before this there was Oct 28th and before that there was Elenin that was supposed to cause 12-15 magnitude earthquakes and absolutely nothing happened. I read posts that people were going to different states because of what they read online. It's ok to have a little fun with this stuff, but don't take it too seriously

Celestia is showing something going over central africa right now and it is a hell of a lot closer than 200,000 miles
Trying to post this so you can see it for yourself.
Of course it wont load for me. Cant bring up the system or transfer Celestia.
My appologies please disregard.

reply to post by TomServo

I am an engineer

Well, with all due respect, I choose to believe thousands of amateur and professional astronomers who say the space rock sails about 201,000 miles from the planet.

www.youtube.com...


this is a graphic of the path of YU55

it appears to me that the type C asteroid is way above the orbit plane of both the Earth & the Moon...

a lot of noise about the Asteroid being within the orbit of the Moon, but that is a disservice and a false-alarm


sure YU55 passby is within the orbit of the Moon around Earth but thats' from a overhead perspective as if this was a 2 dimensional plane instead of a 3 dimension place with a large volume of space between the apparent orbit of the Moon and the asteroid itself.


waste of time in my book

reply to post by TomServo

Fear mongering.

When this passes without causing harm, can we have TomServo publicly apologize to everyone? If we have enough people apologize for these types of things, maybe they will stop sensationalizing these events.

On the flips side... If I turn out to be wrong, I will publicly apologize to everyone.

Don't count on me being wrong.

Nothing serious is going to happen.

Your guide to the asteroid encounter
cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com...

You won't be able to see YU55 zoom by with your naked eye. Even at its closest approach, the asteroid will be no brighter than magnitude 11 — much dimmer than the magnitude-6.5 threshold for naked-eye observations. Astronomers say you'd need something on the order of a 6-inch telescope, and you'd have to know exactly where to look.

gives links to viewing advice as well as charts

Originally posted by Jepic
ABOUT ONE MINUTE LEFT FOR IMPACT! BRACE YOURSELVES!

Rubbish. We are not even near the time of closest approach. It's currently 13.05 in the UK and the time to worry about (if you insist on worrying) will be just before midnight GMT.
Or tomorrow when it gets closer to the moon.

reply to post by Jason88


Hi was wondering which world leaders you are refering to?, because most Euro leaders are in thier own countries carring out home engagements today

2nd

reply to post by Pauligirl


And a live webcast:

events.slooh.com...

reply to post by Section31


He never stated that it was going to impact us. The only thing that he is pointing out is that it is his opinion that JPL's data is wrong. Give him a break. I do appreciate this work he has done. Even if it's wrong, it's more than a lot of us here ever do for our community.

Ty TomServo.

Originally posted by starchild10

Originally posted by Jepic
ABOUT ONE MINUTE LEFT FOR IMPACT! BRACE YOURSELVES!

Rubbish. We are not even near the time of closest approach. It's currently 13.05 in the UK and the time to worry about (if you insist on worrying) will be just before midnight GMT.
Or tomorrow when it gets closer to the moon.

edit on 8-11-2011 by starchild10 because: (no reason given)

I disregarded that it was PM not AM. My apologies for bringing the doom in AM.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I'd just throw in as a reminder that Yu-55 is only a 400 meter diameter rock, at the high side of the estimates. It wouldn't hit the surface anywhere near that size, either. If it came in at the near impossible angle of 90 degrees and at the maximum range of speed for such things, it still wouldn't rise to the level of a global event, No where even close. I wouldn't want to be within a couple hundred miles of a land impact or in a beach house for an ocean hit, but it's no E.L.E. to worry about. The size and mass just isn't there.

However, after tomorrow evening if folks really feel the need to find things to be concerned about in space, there is always this to consider:

JPL Images of Inner Solar System / Asteroids and Comets

There are plenty more where that came from. It isn't if we'll get hit...just when will it happen again.

Are all the orbits of the planets on the same plain As you second pictures shows? I thought each planets orbit was slightly off center as well as travels on is own disc plane. Has science proven that all the planets are on a flat disc like pattern and only separated by distance from the sun as picture number two shows?