YU55 Closer Than JPL Indicates?

Originally posted by Human_Alien
I'm not even going to pretend to understand any of this so........I'll hand it over to MrCometWatch



Nasa Changes YU55 Data At Last Minute

www.youtube.com...

It has not changed at the last minute as I have seen the 0.0022 AU since October of this year...Not accurate at all...

Originally posted by Essan
reply to post by TomServo

 

You do realise that no-one else has the faintest idea what those figures mean?

So you're the spokesperson for the thread and no one has an opinion.. oddly, I DO know what exactly he's stating here and it was posted in a manner which, if one, READS a little bit they could understand exactly what he's pointingout ..

.. so .. stop with the 'i'm the spokesperson and listen to me.. " if you don't agree fine.. then leave..

reply to post by mandella1099


OP stated his findings based on numbers that he presented for the scrutiny of all.

Phage stated a difference of opinion and explained his reasons.

Why are you attacking anyone here? If you have a difference of opinion, state it and tell us all why. Personal attacks add nothing at all to the discussion.

Originally posted by mastercanto
Really interesting thread. Anybody else has this feeling about the OP being bullied by phage, anonymousciticen (whom by the way, most of his all time posts are in this thread, interesting for somebody who posts so nice numbers) and jpg-something?

I don´t think we are in danger, I just read the entire thread because it is interesting to watch the team-ups.

Why are you using terms like bullied? Certainly the OP did not feel bullied, at least not by Phage...If you had read the entire thread you would know this...Please stop with rhetoric and sensationalism...

reply to post by jeichelberg

October? How about August?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by TomServo
reply to post by SheopleNation

 

This might be a convenient time to mention that my grandfather was a mason and was a physist who worked directly with von Braun here in Hsv AL.

Lol, Linda. Mason? What does Free Masonry have to do with Von Braun? Von Braun was Odessa. They have nothing in common with Free Masonry based on Solomon's Temple, the Temple of Yahweh, fair and balance order of wealth and opportunity like the balance and order of the Universe. Pharaoh Akhenaten stuff. Odessa is an occult order based on Babylonian heretical privilege system. Royal privilege. Wealth dynasties... lords. Masons are about meritocracy and everyone competing from the same starting line. A civilization order built around maximizing opportunity through competitions ensuring no one single person or group ever gains an unfair advantage to maintain the survivability of the meritocratic order. Yahweh's order.

Originally posted by VariableConstant
reply to post by mandella1099

 

OP stated his findings based on numbers that he presented for the scrutiny of all.

Phage stated a difference of opinion and explained his reasons.

Why are you attacking anyone here? If you have a difference of opinion, state it and tell us all why. Personal attacks add nothing at all to the discussion.

All of Phage's "difference of opinion" and "reasons" should contain refences to the source because they are not his own. I am not attacking anyone, only pointing out what is correct, just as Phage does. I am following his model....

reply to post by TomServo


What would be the time frame for the U.S.- West Coast? I'm gonna be out there sitting on my roof and it is getting really cold so I do want to wait forever.

reply to post by mandella1099

I provided the source of the data I used.
It is in the post you quoted.

Correction, it is in my first post in the thread.

reply to post by Phage


I was only stating my experience with the small data base browser...it has taken me some time to get familar with it...however, I was well aware it clearly stated 0.0022 when I looked at it in October...so I know that MrCometWatch or whatever his name is peddling dis info when he states they changed it in the last couple of nights....

reply to post by jeichelberg

I was only pointing out, like you, that the video is nonsense.
The orbital calculations have not change significantly for some time.

Interesting read, does anyone have any recent pics of Yu? Anyone know the best place for viewing this beast as it flys by tomorrow?

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by mandella1099

 

I provided the source of the data I used.
It is in the post you quoted.

Yep, and not any of the ideas, research, thoughts, data, inspiration, hard work, etc.... was an original thought by you. A suggestion might be that you think about this before you take it upon yourself to counter everyone on this site. It gets so old. If you are as intelligent as you appear to be to so many others, then post your own research. There are plenty of people here than can check its validity for you if you are worrying about it being inaccurate (but, making mistakes and being wrong does help people to learn...).

reply to post by mandella1099


While I understand gaining tenor and tone of the poster is a subjective issue, I can see I was not alone in gauging your posts to be nothing more than personal attack launched at a person who did nothing but contribute his thoughts and observations on the available information within the thread and other sources...something you have yet to do...So you have actually practiced none of the methods you claim...

reply to post by RelSciHistItSufi


There are really only 4 objects that could possibly change the trajectory of the asteroid, Venus, Earth, the moon and Mars. That is the limit of bodies this asteroid comes close enough to according to it's 1.22 year solar orbit, I had the exact days but can't recall accurately but it was around 440 some days if I recall. Solar flares are not particles and only effect outgassing in comets CMEs what have you are either heat, or subatomic particles that are smaller than atoms. Asteroids are largely inert, only comets become active during close approaches to the sun.

The undetermined factor in trajectories is a collision of another body close to or larger than the asteroid itself. Outside of that orbital dynamics is a pretty sound science. NASA can guide a spacecraft (JUNO) from an orbit around the sun as far out as Mars to swing back to within 300 miles of an earth approach slingshot to Jupiter in 2013. I'd say they understand orbital dynamics well enough to achieve something like that. Consider the time lag in communications as well.

Though I'm not sure how much heat could change a trajectory of an asteroid that at aphelion is going about 54,000 mph out near Mars's orbit, and passing earth at least 66,600 mph, and swings inside of the orbit of Venus that is going over 78,000 mph. Figures are rounded off and retrieved from memory because I didn't want to look them up again.

All I know is in order to change the orbit or trajectory of an asteroid you are fighting it's mass, and it's inertia created by the sun, so you are fighting the sun.

reply to post by mandella1099

So...you are claiming that my analysis of the conclusions of the OP was not my own?

I've authored a few threads.
I would be happy to discuss the content of any of them further with you but I really get tired of discussions about me.

reply to post by YoungBloodNews


You will need a pretty powerful telescope, with a recommended 6 inch aperture according to most sources....East Coast of the US or Western Europe...Toward the north...look toward the constellation of Pegasus...Magnitude of 11 or so, tracing a Moon's breadth across the sky every 5 minutes I believe...

S@F nice reading. U guys made my morning*
can i ask U for Your opinion on this...
11-7-2011 YU55 Listed At 11.2 Visual Magnitude, Making It 15-40 KM? Debunk/Explain?
www.youtube.com...

reply to post by YoungBloodNews


This place is supposed to be showing it's capability on a live stream.

NASA has a radio image model here and also should have some live stream tomorrow. I don't have a direct link but perhaps one can be found from the image link. Best viewing of the close approach will be in America though, from what I'm gathering on the subject.

reply to post by Phage


More like March.

www.spacedaily.com...