YU55 Closer Than JPL Indicates?

I am numerically challenged, but even. I get that the OP posted this thread to highlight an anomaly that does not appear an JPL... No doomsday thread here!
I would like to know a couple of things:
1 - If you are in the Southern Hemisphere and you look in the direction of the sun at sunset; would you be able to see this asteroid? (Since it is "dark" - would you be able to see a moving "dark" spot?)
2 - Supposing/theorising that TPTB is aware of an impact, what would they GAIN by this event?

PS - I,m a newbie; be gentle!

I so want this to hit land, i know its wrong to say, i'm just really bored

reply to post by TomServo


Could you please reply to my comments on page 10?

www.abovetopsecret.com...
How thick is the earths atmosphere? 300 miles at the very most and this asteroid will be travelling about 20x faster than a bullet! which is around 20,000! or 30,000mph! Theres no "time" to burn off anything much at all,perhaps 2%,if that.It would penetrate 300 miles of earths atmosphere in about 1 or 2 seconds!


Where do you get your numbers of what would be burnt off? Source please...otherwise it is simply your conjecture...which, if you have any experience with atmospheric entry of space rock, I will concede...otherwise, give me some research to support your post...please...

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by jeichelberg

Originally posted by blocula
If this asteroid is around 400m in size,we are in trouble. And a very small percentage of it would burn off in the atmosphere,due to it's around 20x faster than a bullet speed.As this link very clearly shows,an asteroid in that size range could destroy a small US State and an ocean impact would be worse than a land impact and it would produce far reaching tsunamis...www.astronomycafe.net...

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First, this is the size of the object IMPACTING the Earth...if YU55 was to enter the atmosphere, it would lose a considerable amount of its size/mass during entry...more than likely, start to disintegrate...so, any remains would be smaller than the original...many models of what happens are out there one the Internet...one of them built by Purdue University...

How thick is the earths atmosphere? 300 miles at the very most and this asteroid will be travelling about 20x faster than a bullet! which is around 20,000! or 30,000mph! Theres no "time" to burn off anything much at all,perhaps 2%,if that.It would penetrate 300 miles of earths atmosphere in about 1 or 2 seconds!

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497 miles from an ocean impact=
Tsunami Wave:
What does this mean?

The impact-generated tsunami wave arrives approximately 2.4 hours after impact.

Tsunami wave amplitude is less than 2.0 meters ( = 6.4 feet).
yep, huge, we are all doomed as has been given to you guys on four different threads now earlier in this one.. please use this tool before you go rehashing someone elses pipe dream... deny ignorance if there is a tool to help you do that use it.
I even redid the velocity so you could see your 30k speed is way off base
Impact Velocity: 200.00 km per second ( = 124.00 miles per second ) (Your chosen velocity is higher than the maximum for an object orbiting the sun)
Pay special attention to that last bit in parenthesis
impact.ese.ic.ac.uk...

I honestly dont think anything will happen. In my honest opinion YU55 has became the new elenin and no I will not capitalize the name because it was a joke honestly. If it were going to hit then it would be hard to cover it up. The government isnt the only one watching this I imagine. And they cant pay off every astronomer. I would be willing to bet a million dollars that Wednesday will come and go like any other day. Just my 2 cents.

These threads bout comets make me laugh, so whats gonna happen when this comet doesn't hit earth? are you guys gonna make another thread of a new comet? if theres any mods watching this thread I think there should be a new forums section called "Comets and Meteors" I mean lets face it these people that start these threads will continue to start threads after this meteor doesn't hit or the new one doesn't. I for one am getting sick of these doom and gloom threads that never happen. Would be nice if one did happen though.

Originally posted by neobludragon
These threads bout comets make me laugh, so whats gonna happen when this comet doesn't hit earth? are you guys gonna make another thread of a new comet? if theres any mods watching this thread I think there should be a new forums section called "Comets and Meteors" I mean lets face it these people that start these threads will continue to start threads after this meteor doesn't hit or the new one doesn't. I for one am getting sick of these doom and gloom threads that never happen. Would be nice if one did happen though.

No.. Most of us who are talking about YU55 are new members.. so we will all be celebrating with you my friend!

How thick is the earths atmosphere? 300 miles at the very most and this asteroid will be travelling about 20x faster than a bullet! which is around 20,000! or 30,000mph! Theres no "time" to burn off anything much at all,perhaps 2%,if that.It would penetrate 300 miles of earths atmosphere in about 1 or 2 seconds!

I hate to say it, but Earth is bombarded by many THOUSANDS of pieces of space junk every single day.

Why do you think does a space shuttle need a heat shield...do you have an idea what forces/heat etc. goes into effect if an object with that speed goes through the atmosphere? As with MOST other pieces of junk, it will start to "burn up". Compare the moon surface with the Earth surface...and then come to a conclusion...moon does NOT have an atmosphere...this is why there are thousands and thousands of craters.

Now tell me where your "calculations" come from..why do you think this asteroid should be different? This asteroid has as much time as any other object entering the atmosphere.

By the way...obviously you are not good at math! 30.000 mph = 8.33 mls/second. This is not taking into account that the atmosphere is likely slowing down the object. FAR from your totally wrong number of "300 mls per second".

Originally posted by jeichelberg
reply to post by LilDudeissocool

 

Thank you for your reply...now, if you could be so kind as to spell it out a little more clearly, I would be indebted...what is it you are trying to communicate to me...That data set is wrong? That NASA and JPL do not what gravity is? That prior observations of this object make it impossible for them to know what will happen?

What?

JPL lacks the knowledge when it comes to gravitational anomalies on the Earth compared to some private entities. They understand what is widely known in regard to lunar gravitational anomalies of course. That is not knowledge that is very detailed though. This is why they do not include it in their calculations as it is too vague. The same is true when they collect data on Earth's gravitational anomalies.

Industry, namely petroleum and mining, have a detailed map of Earth's gravitational anomalies. One company in particular, BHP has the highest quality info. This high quality data would alter the comparatively scant data, relatively low quality, that JPL could use calculating when plotting the future course of this asteroid as it passes the Earth. They simply do not use their blurry data, and claim it does not really have much of an impact on their calculations and cross their fingers.

This gap in knowledge is due to the reason of JPL and NASA in general having an adversarial relationship with the petroleum and mining industry who possess the important knowledge they do not have and should have. This situation must change.

How to correct this situation, or issue, is easy. They must give up their promotions of global warming hysteria agenda and work with the mining and petroleum industry which own detailed knowledge of Earth's gravitational field that NASA/JPL does not possess.

Why they could not and still can't collect the data on their own? Simply, they cannot afford to collect the data. It's too expensive. You have to hover at around 35mph around the surface of the Earth, every square inch of it, just hundreds of feet above the surface in order to collect this detailed data (that has impacts on calculating the course of near Earth objects) . Then there are ocean surveys. A whole other set of challenges and thus extreme expenditures NASA cannot afford. The U.S. Navy had even given up. Although mining and petroleum have an open relationship with the U.S. Navy and NATO navies as well. On the other hand NASA can't be trusted with any information that is obtained from mining and petroleum companies. Because they would data mine who the data was collected.

Mining and Petroleum, who also fund the banks, own the USG through for instance K. Street, and most if not all western governments too btw. They have more knowledge than governments. NASA and JPL are mere government agencies whose administration has decided to be at war with mining and petroleum. Now that decision has affected their competencies that endanger the Earth.

Now I have no real knowledge on this subject myself regarding the concerns of this asteroid, or others for that matter. I'll watch Rocket City Rednecks on NGC in a future episode dealing with asteroids and how calculations are made when dealing with near Earth asteroids to learn something about this subject.

Go Travis & Pete!

Originally posted by rydizz

ASTEROID FLYBY: NASA radars are monitoring 2005 YU55, an asteroid the size of an aircraft carrier, as it heads for a Nov. 8th flyby of the Earth-Moon system. There is no danger to our planet. At closest approach on Tuesday at 3:28 pm PST (23:28 UT), the 400m-wide space rock will be 324,600 kilometers away, about 85% the distance from Earth to the Moon.

This is from the main page at www.spaceweather.com...

Spaceweather only posted that item today, and only changed their 'original' 200m to 400m today. That they only changed the size today to 400m is of no consequence, since it was estimated to be 400m by Cornell from early this year, others, including Spaceweather may have revised the size at least once.

False flag asteroid strike...Just as Werner Von Braun warned...That will just happen to slam into a country that is on the USA's hit list,one of our axis of evil enemy nations...But...This asteroid will actually be a nuclear missle, intentionally launched, to usher in WW3 and or to complete their new world order...

I bet the OP feels kinda stupid now ? No strike and life goes on .
So much for his prowess with mathematics

Originally posted by jeichelberg
www.abovetopsecret.com...

How thick is the earths atmosphere? 300 miles at the very most and this asteroid will be travelling about 20x faster than a bullet! which is around 20,000! or 30,000mph! Theres no "time" to burn off anything much at all,perhaps 2%,if that.It would penetrate 300 miles of earths atmosphere in about 1 or 2 seconds!


Where do you get your numbers of what would be burnt off? Source please...otherwise it is simply your conjecture...which, if you have any experience with atmospheric entry of space rock, I will concede...otherwise, give me some research to support your post...please...


This link tells the sad and shocking story of the brutal reality of asteroids and how even small ones cause great damage and death...www.astronomycafe.net...

reply to post by buddhasystem

Earth and yu55 each have their own inertia. Nothing could cause it to divert , then return to its original course. However, refer to my most recent post.
Incremental distance, as in distance at increments of time (hrs, days, etc). It is just distance. Sorry for the confusion.

Originally posted by BRITWARRIOR
I so want this to hit land, i know its wrong to say, i'm just really bored

Well let's hope it lands on your head, bored britwarrior.

Originally posted by tpg65
I bet the OP feels kinda stupid now ? No strike and life goes on .
So much for his prowess with mathematics

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Yes but if it does happen we will be calling the O.p the Messiah..

Lets be clear 'he is not he Messiah he is a very naughty boy'

xxx

Originally posted by mockrock

Originally posted by jeichelberg
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

Most models of the YU55 state there would be no fireball if it impacts the ocean...

Let us be clear.. a 500M wide asteroid hit Jupiter and it left a crater the size of the Pacific..

www.bbc.co.uk...

"This solitary event caught us by surprise,"

that's what they will say.. unusual solar activity knocked YU55

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More appropriate terminology would be for you to state it left a SCAR on the upper atmosphere of JUPITER (A gas giant planet, located in our Solar System) the size of our Pacific Ocean...It did not leave a CRATER!!!

Originally posted by smurfy
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Spaceweather only posted that item today, and only changed their 'original' 200m to 400m today. That they only changed the size today to 400m is of no consequence, since it was estimated to be 400m by Cornell from early this year, others, including Spaceweather may have revised the size at least once.

Really? - MY Spaceweather page was coming up with 400 metres a few days ago.

Originally posted by tpg65
I bet the OP feels kinda stupid now ? No strike and life goes on .
So much for his prowess with mathematics

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Why rank on the OP? He/She went through a lot of though and a lot of trouble trying to expose something for us all...
Why do you use the word stupid in connection with this thread? the math involved on page one was anything but easy to prepare and set up...