Hello Everyone. New Member Here looking For Some Advice

The thing that frightens me the most about this is your willingness to "drug" your daughter. That was even reinforced by one our own.
How sad that we have sunken so low that we use drugs to solve things we do not understand.

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Erm...where did he say that he's willing to drug his child!? I'm quite sure he said exactly the opposite. Please site that instance for me. I can't find it.

Hello,

I work with children. Your daughter sounds like a very normal 4 year old. Some guidelines:

1. A very good start is to ask her to draw (using big cryons) what these beings look like. When she has finished ask her if the colours she used is the colours they are. (This can help you establish if they are alien looking or ghostlike beings.)

2. Watch her play. Children express themselves through play, and if she has 5 figurines, 2 male and 3 female, the most pressing matters will be played out by her. Not only will this give you a chance to observe her, it will also give her a chance to deal with what is happening. Do not suggest to her that she must play the scene out. Simply wait for it. (Play therapy.)
Try to watch her without being obvious about it.

3. Do not make her feel different or incredible. She is having an experience which is valid and true. Her future self image and self esteems greatly depends on your support and making her feel understood and accepted.

4. In my opinion, it is not something she is fabricating because it is consistent. She remains firm in her expereince, and does not change the amount of people or their intentions.

5. Try to see from her drawings if these are alien looking or ghost like.

6. If she was my daughter I would absolutely NOT take her to any medical or psychological professional. There is not much in this situation that you are not equiped to deal with better than any other. You know her best, and have a much better chance to help her. You also have her best interest at heart, like no other.

If I was you and the situation persisted, I would definately consider moving house.

You have a tough situation, and I wish you all the best!

If you would like to share her pictures on this thread it might be of further use to finding some input.

Hope this helps.
Good luck!

^^^^^^^^^^^ That right there is good advice. Take it and run with it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Be easy and gentle with everything. Kids always know when you're worried about something.

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wow, first thing i do since it started with that mirror , i get rid of it as fast as possible, it could be a spirit from china, i just got a stero from walmart i think i return it fast

good luck keep writing

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Chris,

Those two that come out to your little girl are demons, evil spirits and even if you moved they could move with you and still posses your families quarters. They no doubt took up that house when the evil ones lived there.

Your best defense is for you and your wife to be completely, fully surrendered Christians to Jesus Christ and nothing withheld as all that we are must be given or He doesn't come and dwell within. If He is within you and your wife I'm sure they would leave.

Then introduce that little one to Jesus as her complete Saviour and keeper and to trust fully in Him.

All the churches of the world are corrupt today so you would need to find a TRUE man of God to baptise you and your wife and then follow Jesus from His Word and be home church people as Jesus and the disciples were in that day as the church was so corrupt as it is today.

We are living in the time of the end when these spirits are allowed to take over and if possible the elect of His will be overcome. Turn to Jesus fully and completly while you can and none of you are still overcome of the devil and his evil ones. I pray for you all there. Sibbs.

Originally posted by vonnareverse
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Hi Chris, welcome to ATS. I'm Camille, and First I would tell You to DO NOT DOUBT YOUR CHILD.
they don't have the Sophistication to make stuff like that up. Take her seriously.
And I would strongly advise you NOT to go the Psychiatric circle. they will label her Schizophrenic, or Delusional, with homicidal tendency's, Medicate her and it will go with her pertinently, on her record. DON'T DO THAT TO HER
Next remove the Mirror. traditionally Mirrors have always been considered Portals to other Dimensions.
Some traditions have family's cover All Mirrors when a person dies int eh house, to prevent them from becoming Entrapped in the mirror.
They are also are attractive to evil spirits...Vain I guess. So remove the offending mirror.
Do some research, You can also find out threw news papers the History of the house, check if the house has a history of violence? Has any one died in the house. what was there before the hose was Built? check deed records news records that sort of thing.
Next, weather there really are or are not ghostly apparitions evil spirits or other dimensional beings Haunting your Daughter or house. CAST THEM OUT. the Fine details are not as Important as the process.
Include your daughter in the cleansing and casting out.
let her know we don't like Bad people that tell you to do bad mean things to mommy and daddy....Or any one at all.
tell her that she does not ever have to listen to them, and She can make them go and leave her alone...Empower her to say NO to them.
there are organic markets, herbalists, where you can Buy the braided wheat straw, Bundled Indian sage. you'll have to research where to find it locally to you.
burn the Straw and Sage, and walk around the house doing the Smudging. that spreading the Sweet smoke of the Sage through out the house starting in her bedroom. Go to each room, and with conviction claim the house back. this is my home my sanctuary, my safe haven from Evil, No evil thing is welcome here. I command you to leave now and never return. you choose your words that feel right to you, Allow your daughter to speak along with you, it is her home too, and She needs to know she has Authority over, what is allowed near her in her home.

If you find that these people are departed tell them YOU ARE DEAD, this is no longer your home. BE-GONE.

Also, these Evil entity's weather there real or Imagined,..ghosts or poltergeists, have no authority or power to do anything more than Frighten, or try to influence. they can not harm you, or force you to do anything bad.
You can command them. After finishing the banishing, remove the mirror from the house put it in the garbage can and break it. let you daughter see this, tell her the people in the mirror have to go away now, and to tell you If they ever come back. then Do something bright fun and cheerful to dispel any feeling of gloom or dread.

She will more than likely not remember this Episode as she grows older Unless you continue to talk about it.
treat it as a None Event, nothing too horribly important like all family banish nastiness from there houses too.then forget about it. go on with your Happy lives.

the last thing,...You daughter may be a sensitive, Seeing spirits may be something she will have to live with,..but Empowering her early Will spare her trauma, and fear.

My own 4 year old grand daughter Would Screech in terror, when alone in a room. for no apparent reason,..this started from 3 or 4 Months on.
when she was 2 1/2 years old, she climbed in my lap and whispered " I see the Boogie man, Do you smell him?"
the hair on every inch of my body stood on end. She is a Sensitive, and they come to her, because she is aware of her.
kind of like speak of the devil and he shall appear, Being aware of them, makes them curious about you.

So Banish and forget about them,..Unless they return. In that case you may need Some psychic help, to to a Stronger banishing.
I hope this is of some help to you, let me know if there's anything else I can answer for you.

Camille.

This is very good advice and it would seem that it comes from some one who has, sadly, experience. I would only add one more suggestion and it could be the best one and first one to use: PRAYER. Get your entire family involved in daily prayer in your home. Religious articles are all well and good, but they have no intrinsic power of their own and the demonic do not recognize them for anything but something to be hated. They have no effect unless there is faith attached to them. If they are used as a focus of prayer and are around when the prayers are said, they become more effective against the demonic.

It will be good for you all to gather as a family in prayer and ask God for His protection and especially for the protection of His Holy Angels.

Originally posted by knightsofcydonia
LOL good story, reminds me of the Goosebumps series of books growing up...


I hope people realize this is just a washed up writer with to much time on his hands fishing for stars and flags.

Really? I'm a grown, well-educated man. I work two jobs to support my family and to provide my wife the opportunity to be a stay-at-home mom. I don't have the time nor the patience to makeup some bs story for the amusement of other people. If you choose not to believe what I say that's fine, but don't you dare pretend like you know what i'm about or what my motivations are.

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Originally posted by GonzoSinister
I suggest you get one of those baby monitoring camera's in a teddy, dont tell anyone not your wife or anyone else it has a camera in it, give it to your daughter, the next day your daughter claims to have had an interaction with these (well call them) Ghosts, sit down tell your wife about the cammera and watch it, it will go two ways, either there is somthing medical and your daughter should be given help (in the best possible way, without drugs)
or there is somthing spiritual/paranormal and you will at least see some interaction between her and somthing...

thats what i would do i guess.


The reason i suggest not to tell anyone about the camera including your wife is if it is somthing paranormal that are "aware" you may let the cat out the bag and that might cause things to get scarey for your daughter (so we are clear i dont fully believe in Paranormal stuff but i do believe a father understands when his kids are telling the truth)

edit on 4-11-2011 by GonzoSinister because: (no reason given)

That is a great idea, I will use it for myself. This will also help if 2NDAR's daughter has something going on with her sleep, like some kind of sleep disorder.. Parasomnias...sleep paralysis... I am no expert, but I have been looking into those things for my own experience with seeing something at night.

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I am seriously considering having a sleep study done on her. I know for a fact that my wife suffers from what she calls 'night tremors'. I don't know if this is the actual medical term for exceedingly vivid nightmares or something that she came up with. Regardless, I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination to think my daughter could also be suffering from the same thing. As I mentioned before, the last time she mentioned that someone had told her to do something was on Tuesday of this week. That would be November 1st. So this thread was initially started as a sort of 'fact finding' attempt with the intention of exploring all possibilities before making any knee-jerk reactions to this.

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Take that damned mirror out of there. Don't just sit on this perplexed. A four year old doesn't really need a mirrior anyway. And if you have to move her out of that room. Inconvenient yes, but might be an urgent need. Get a Shaman in there to clear the room, with burning sage and prayers. Get an excorcist. Do whatever you have to do. I am not the m ost religious person myself. But there are stranger things in this life, and you have to be proactive right NOW.

So far cosmicegg has made the best suggestions.

I wonder how long this had been going on before your daughter finally said something.

Also, now adding in the new info re your wife and night terrors - perhaps your wife has been having the same experiences but has been fighting it. Perhaps your wife is sensitive and she doesn't realize it. I hear these kind of sensitivies mostly "run in the family".

I've sent Woodywytch a U2U and asked her to come offer her assistance as one of ATS's experts on these types of matters.

While I'm not a religious person, and I am a researcher on Mythology, I'd like to make the following suggestions.
Not in any particular order.

A.) Remove that mirror from the home and do not replace it. Send it immediately to the dumps. Don't break it.

B.) Mirrors can be used for scrying. That is a method of looking into the present, past, future, or other realms. They are two way conduits.

C.) Have a Roman Catholic Priest bless the house, and a Rosary, which is then hung in the attic. Have the daughters Rosary blessed as well.

D.) If you have a Ouija board in the house. Take it outside and burn it, then bury the ashes at least a foot below the ground level. Do not purchase another one.

E.) Have both a Wicca and a Druid perform cleansing spells on the house and room, in addition ask if there is anything they can do to protect the daughter.

F.) If all the above fail, move post haste.

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I have wondered the same thing about the time frame. What's more concerning to me is what she isn't telling us. I've heard Woodywytch's name mentioned a couple times on here, so hopefully she will be able to offer some more insight into this. Thank you.

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Thanks for the suggestions bench. Regarding the Quija board, I have never owned one, nor have I even seen one in person. My wife used one in the past when she was growing up in upstate New York. She claims to have had some disturbing encounters while using it, so she is now adamantly against them. There has never been one in any home that we have lived in. At least not by our doing. I can't speak for the people who have resided here or elsewhere before us though.

Here is a document that worth watching:

www.youtube.com...

I would suggest you to visualize and to shroud your house and your family members with brilliant bright white light from your heart center, send out LOVE to while you doing so, as no other energy would ever to display negative entities (usually unconscious spirits who needs our negative energies to thrive. You are obviously a very strong minded person and it's good in one sense that the negative entity has no effect on you, but instead it is working with the weaker and less strong to get to you. I am also asking all those ATS members who read this blog to send Chris and his family lots of love and light and you too can visualize loving white light surrounding his house and his family, I will be the first to do so as I speak. It does not matter how far we are apart, as our minds are so powerful and our intention will direct where we wish our energies to be. We are save and strong in numbers, lets help Chris to end this stupid and unnecessary experience.

With love and light, Namaste

reply to post by 2NDAR
Hi, Did your daughter's unwanted visits get resolved? Try not to use drugs of any kind (prescriptions, alcohol, etc) for any reason; such creates scars in the aura through which unwanted entities can enter. And the most vulnerable (children, elderly, etc.) are most at risk because they tend to be more innocent/open.
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somebody creates an account every month to share some innocent story about their child having an other-worldly experience.

As much as i want to believe it every time... rationality wont permit it