Hello Everyone. New Member Here looking For Some Advice

I say i'm a new member, but that's only somewhat true. I've been lurking on this site for about three years and have only recently decided to become a member. Part of my motivation for joining ATS is due to some very strange and disturbing comments from my daughter. Below I will try to explain what she has been telling me to the best of my ability without rambling to the extent that I become incoherent. I welcome any suggestions or advice. I consider myself a very open-minded person, but i'm also not crazy. Well, maybe a little. Nonetheless, here is my story that is still continuing today.

I am a 32-year old husband with 2 children. My son is 1 year old, and my daughter will be 4 in December. We moved into a house that we are renting in February of this year. The first 5 months were uneventful. That all changed one day in July. My daughter has her own bedroom, and in that bedroom is one of those mirrors that are designed to go on the back of a door. It's not old. We purchased it from Wal-Mart about a year ago. Well, on that July afternoon, my daughter made a comment that seemingly came completely out of the blue. She said: "Daddy, the people in the mirror keep telling me to do bad things." This unnerved me a little but I did not pursue
it any further because this was the first time she's ever said anything remotely along these lines. I chocked it up to a 3-year old's imagination.

Everything remained quite until about the end of September. While i was at work, my daughter woke up my wife and said nothing but "Mommy, the people that used to live here told me to kill you, but I told them no because I would miss you." When my wife questioned her about this, she completely shut down and would not offer anymore information. Whatever is going on seems to be escalating in both frequency and the amount of violence. More recently, as in 3 days ago, our family of 4 was in the backyard playing on the kids' swing set when my daughter says: "Mommy, daddy set you were going to bleed tonight.....a lot." Obviously I would never say anything this stupid to my daughter or about my wife. I then proceeded to tell her that I never said anything like that and my daughter (Alexis) responded with: "No, not you daddy. The other daddy in the house." Well, there is no other daddy in the house.

The day after this occurred, my wife asked her who kept telling her these things and what they were saying. Alexis told her that there was a man and a woman that talk to her. She said the woman tells her to kill her mommy, and the man tells her to kill her daddy. She also said that they never come out of her room except for at night. At night they will sometimes leave her room and move into the master bedroom. She then proceeded to stop discussing it with my wife again. So, yesterday when I got home I decided I was going to spend some extra time with Alexis and see if she offers up anymore information. She did not let me down. Before proceeding I must make a disclaimer. I do not consider myself anything close to being considered a religious person. My wife, however, is religious. That said, there is a small cross hanging on my daughter's wall just above her bed.

Rather than giving a narrative of our conversation, it might be better if I simply present the conversation as it took place.....

Me: Alexis, is there anything you feel like telling me?
Alexis: What do you mean daddy?
Me: You told mommy some stuff yesterday. Will you tell me what you told her?
Alexis: Ok. There is a man and a woman that hide in my room and tell me to do bad things to you and mommy.
Me: What do they look like?
Alexis: Ummm.....they are grey and have arms like us. They can't talk. All they can do is groan and growl.
Me: If they can't talk, then how do you know what they are saying to you?
Alexis: I don't know. I just do.
Me: Well, next time you see them, you tell them that they are bad and you aren't going to speak to them and then come tell mommy or daddy. And if mommy and daddy aren't close enough to you, then take your cross off the wall and close your eyes. That way Jesus can protect you.
Alexis: Jesus can't protect me. They'll kill me if i do that.
Me: In that case, then you run out of your room as fast as you can and get me.
Alexis: Ok daddy.

Needless to say, I was dumbfounded at this point. Maybe my Jesus comment was a little off-base since i'm not a religious person myself, but I won't tell her not to believe. That's a decision she'll have to make on her own as she gets older. I realize this all sounds a little nuts, but it's entirely true. I don't know what the explanation is for this. Maybe it's something medical. Maybe it's something Paranormal. I have no clue. I'd also like to add that our children are sheltered from violence probably more so than necessary. She doesn't watch tv except for shows like Kai-Lan and Wubbzy. I'm pretty sure there's not excessive violence in either of those, although Wubbzy would account for my mild craziness. She also does not go to any type of daycare, so it's likely safe to assume that she isn't being fed this type of stuff from another child. She stays at home with my wife and son, so her exposure to other adults is also minimal.

My employer offers free counseling, which I am considering. The only reason i'm reluctant to do this is because I don't want her put on drugs. If this is something that can't be explained medically, then that is exactly what is likely to happen. Anyway, any suggestions or alternative possible explanations would be greatly appreciated. Thank you everyone for allowing me to vent.

-Chris

Don't know what to say but, that is extremely scary! I got the chills. I flagged your thread because I gotta run out, & I am looking forward to some of our more experienced posters(in these types of things) opinions....Good Luck to you!

Welcome..and I really hope you find some answers to your questions and concerns.

I have nothing to offer except to keep communication going with your daughter..and to be wary of "professionals"...who are closed minded and only use their methods of analyzing.

Maybe you should stay up a night with her and see if she has any interactions with the others while you are present. Or you could ask her to keep investigating asking them why they want her to do such terrible things. Hope things get better keep ats posted.

Originally posted by gabby2011
Welcome..and I really hope you find some answers to your questions and concerns.

I have nothing to offer except to keep communication going with your daughter..and to be wary of "professionals"...who are closed minded and only use their methods of analyzing.

Thanks. This is pretty much where i'm at on this. If it is indeed a medical issue, then of course I want to help her. However, I don't want that to be the only option considered.

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I think it may be paranormal. Have you done any research into the previous occupants to see if there is a connection to these people she is seeing? I would start there. Tell your daughter to tell them to go away, they don't live there anymore. Sometimes making a stand can help. Children are so much more open to these things and it seems like more and more kids are seeing "the other side" more frequently. Some is positive and some not so much.

I don't know what to tell you except I would look into current research along these lines:

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Although I must say from experience that there is a good chance a large energy flux (a strong surge of emotion) could have created a sort of "echo" of past events when temporal conditions align. Here are some posts that may have information that could help you understand what is happening.
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Wow. Scary story indeed. I feel for you, Sir.

I hope that it is just a hallucination of some sort and that she really isn't receiving messages from entities. If she is then you will have to fight evil through spirituality.

It almost sounds like an Alien or something.

One thing I would do, is get rid of mirrors in her room.

I would also suggest having a priest or pastor bless the house.

I realize you are not a religious person, but Jesus said that whatever you hold true on earth, I will hold true in Heaven. Which translates to me as saying, "Mind over matter".

The mind is powerful.

I would first choose to consult the divine.

As a writer, I have to say that the dialogue here is somewhat suspicious in a scripted kind of way.

However, assuming your daughter is very precocious and events did proceed in such a straight line--then you should tell her that Jesus is the only one that can help her.

Laugh if'n you want to but the spirit world does get very uncomfortable with that name uttered in faith or desperation.

Bet it works. Good luck.

Originally posted by motoxryder
Maybe you should stay up a night with her and see if she has any interactions with the others while you are present. Or you could ask her to keep investigating asking them why they want her to do such terrible things. Hope things get better keep ats posted.

Granted, I've been watching the Paranormal Activity films lately - I'd say put up some cameras if any are handy.

My personal recommendation beyond that, though, would be not to encourage any communication by the daughter or to attempt any directly otherwise. Best keep those doors shut as tightly as possible while looking for confirmation of something strange or otherwise considering some sort of help for the daughter if can't substantiate the story itself.

With anything that appears to be paranormal, I can never suggest someone engage in further dialogue or attempts to communicate with it. Could very well just be opening yourself up to further influence.

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Woah, welcome to ATS.

I must admit that a couple parts of your post pointed out to me.

I know someone who claims to be able to see "spirits". He talks about it a lot but most people don't want to hear about it. He says that they are gray and hard to see but they are human shaped. He also says they tell him to do things.

I have never been religious other than the forced stuff you get told as a child. Lately I have been starting to believe in things I would never have imagined in the past due to certain things that a wide variety of people have been telling me.

I'm not trying to scare you, but if all of this is true, it sounds like demonic possession.

I'm not even sure if I believe in that type of stuff. I used to be a believer in Aliens. I still am, but my perception of them is different now. I'm starting to believe that there are trans-dimensional beings (or whatever it is they're called). There purpose or existence is a mystery to me.

I have heard of a few stories of people going through what they think is an alien abduction but once they mention Jesus that the experience just ends.

Like I said, I am skeptical about all these things I mentioned. But I have had no choice to at least consider it lately with all the things I have been hearing on here and from people I know in the real world.

I am not the type to believe what anyone says either so please don't think I buy into any ghost story I hear around the camp fire.

ETA: I know most of my post sounded crazy. Just wanted to share what I have heard. Hope it all works out

Originally posted by AlomaRa
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I think it may be paranormal. Have you done any research into the previous occupants to see if there is a connection to these people she is seeing? I would start there. Tell your daughter to tell them to go away, they don't live there anymore. Sometimes making a stand can help. Children are so much more open to these things and it seems like more and more kids are seeing "the other side" more frequently. Some is positive and some not so much.

My parents have lived around the corner from this house for close to 30 years. I know there was a fire about 15 years ago in this immediate area. What I don't know is whether it was this house or the one next to it. Nor do I know if anybody actually perished in the fire. I've attempted to research my address as well as the neighboring houses but can't seem to come up with any information on the address other than your typical listing of sale prices over the last 7 years. Surprisingly, there is no information (that i've been able to find) on any of these properties for dates prior. I don't know the exact date the house was built, but i do know the subdivision was built in the 70's.

Originally posted by The GUT
As a writer, I have to say that the dialogue here is somewhat suspicious in a scripted kind of way.

Thank you for your suggestions and I can respect your opinion regarding the scripted part. If i was to read this on here, I would probably be reluctant to believe it myself. It does sound like something out of a novel.

Originally posted by AlomaRa
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I think it may be paranormal. Have you done any research into the previous occupants to see if there is a connection to these people she is seeing? I would start there. Tell your daughter to tell them to go away, they don't live there anymore. Sometimes making a stand can help. Children are so much more open to these things and it seems like more and more kids are seeing "the other side" more frequently. Some is positive and some not so much.

This. I have young children myself and this would be extremely alarming to me. This sounds to me like a great deal more than an overactive imagination. I completely agree about doing some research into the house and its history. Even if it doesn't help change anything, knowledge is power and some piece of mind may help substantiate what you are experiencing even if it is only to your wife and yourself.

Have you considered setting up some recording equipment and training it at the mirror? Even a digital audio recorder might help. This way you would at least be able to see if she is getting out of her bed and engaging the mirror interactively or if it is coming through in her sleep.

Maybe you could take the mirror out of her room.

I think that positive energies may be a defence against negative. You could talk to your daughter about 'angels' stress the importance of love and positivity in the house and I don't know, feel sorry for such negative entities.

I'm sorry, wish I could be more help.

Namaste

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I would set up a video camera in her room without telling her and see if you can catch anything hapening.

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I am a bit skeptical of the paranormal, but some people very close to me have confided some very unnerving stories.

You said you researched your home, where do you live ..... town/state and how old is the home?

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
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I am not the type to believe what anyone says either so please don't think I buy into any ghost story I hear around the camp fire.

edit on 4-11-2011 by Corruption Exposed because: (no reason given)

I hear you on that one. Stuff like this is way too easy to make up. Unfortunately, what I have written is not made up. That's not to say that she isn't making it up though. That is entirely possible. I'm just not sure where she would be getting it from. She's supposed to be thinking about Rainbows and Ponies, not worrying about something happening to her parents. What surprises me the most out of all this is the fact that the violence is all aimed myself and my wife, and not our son. Seeing as the two do have the typical older sister/younger brother rivalry going on. Maybe it's a plea for attention on her part. Or maybe she's projecting her anger about having to share attention. I honestly don't know. That's why I'm here.

Originally posted by SirMike
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I am a bit skeptical of the paranormal, but some people very close to me have confided some very unnerving stories.

You said you researched your home, where do you live ..... town/state and how old is the home?

I live in Summerville, South Carolina. I don't know the exact year the house was built, but the neighborhood was built sometime in the 70's.