I need your help with two images

Originally posted by sanctum

I need your help with two images ATS Sponsored Games & Events 407 on 7/9/04 at 02:19 PM by SkepticOverlord

Read "ATS Sponsored".

Who is being Sponsored by ATS?

My brain hurts, lol
Sanc'.



edit: does S.O.' quote imply that the 'game' is a 3rd party?

[edit on 7-9-2004 by sanctum]

This is just to give the "new hunt" its own forum, IMO. I could sense the stress levels of the admins rising exponentially as members began discussing the "realness" of this thread and "which government agency" we need to contact to get more info.

We don't want to be contacting any gov. agencies over this.

The clues have been given, and now its up to us to find the next lead.

If "Find the Rings" provided any lesson its that the next clue is right under our nose. We probably need to be using the search function to find the next lead. It most likely has something to do with the coordinates.

Its got to be the missing files then, The way files names are done follow a fairly simple pattern and there are 6-7 missing files which should reveal what the scribbled out part of the document says which should lead us to more clues.

Im guessing the missing files will be found in a directory like DrJims was.

My head hurts too!

I've tried two different programs to 'decipher' all old and new images and they don't give any information.

I worked out the file names that are missing from the puzzle

1qaz-85tgb.gif
2wsx-84rfv.gif
3edc-83edc.gif
4rfv-82wsx.gif
5tgb-81qaz.gif
6yhn-77ujm.gif
7ujm-76yhn.gif

And these are what someone else worked out in page 21 i forgot who it was...

54rfv-63edc.gif
55tgb-62wsx.gif
56yhn-61qaz.gif
57ujm-57ujm.gif
61qaz-56yhn.gif
62wsx-55tgb.gif
63edc-54rfv.gif

These are also missing.

This is the complete list of all the filenames that technically should be there..



1qaz-85tgb |
2wsx-84rfv |
3edc-83edc | These
4rfv-82wsx | Are Missing
5tgb-81qaz |
6yhn-77ujm |
7ujm-76yhn |
11 qaz - 75 tgb
12 wsx - 74 rfv
13 edc - 73 edc
14 rfv - 72 wsx
15 tgb - 71 qaz
16 yhn - 67 ujm Then Six Small Mirrored section
17 ujm - 66 yhn
21 qaz - 65 tgb
22 wsx - 64 rfv
23 edc - 53 edc
24 rfv - 52 wsx
25 tgb - 51 qaz End of Small Mirror
26 yhn - 47 ujm
27 ujm - 46 yhn
31 qaz - 45 tgb
32 wsx - 44 rfv
33 edc - 43 edc
34 rfv - 42 wsx
35 tgb - 41 qaz
36 yhn - 37 ujm Entire number pattern is mirrored from here:
37 ujm - 36 yhn EG 36 yhn - 37ujm becomes 37ujm - 36yhn and so on.
41 qaz - 35 tgb
42 wsx - 34 rfv
43 edc - 33 edc
44 rfv - 32 wsx
45 tgb - 31 qaz
46 yhn - 27 ujm
47 ujm - 26 yhn
51 qaz - 25 tgb Then Six Small Mirrored section
52 wsx - 24 rfv
53 edc - 23 edc
54rfv-63edc | These
55tgb-62wsx | Are
56yhn-61qaz | Missing
57ujm-57ujm |
61qaz-56yhn |
62wsx-55tgb |
63edc-54rfv |
64 rfv - 22 wsx
65 tgb - 21 qaz
66 yhn - 17 ujm
67 ujm - 16 yhn
71 qaz - 15 tgb
72 wsx - 14 rfv
73 edc - 13 edc
74 rfv - 12 wsx
75 tgb - 11 qaz

The oddest files that doesnt match the pattern are these

54rfv-63edc.gif
55tgb-62wsx.gif
56yhn-61qaz.gif
57ujm-57ujm.gif
61qaz-56yhn.gif
62wsx-55tgb.gif
63edc-54rfv.gif

I didnt notice them till i saw someone write about them.

The more you think about this the more it feels so inexplainable.

Also the coordinates could mean 417 characters or lines down a document/post and 333 characters or words across.

Just need to find something to do it on.

egg is broken

Sanc'.

dog is blue

Sanc'.

Er...are those clues...

first of all to markjaxson for starting the DrJim summery thread, I think it's a good idea to have somewhere for quick reference to our findings. I assume that we will continue to post here and you will update the other thread every now and then?

Well I've tried so many different variations of those missing files in DrJims directory,all with no result.
The thing that I'm racking my brains over at the moment is what do those coordinates mean?
I've found this explaining how to use six digit coordinates on a map

(another pdf file for anyone else who has problems with adobe reader)

www.rotc.monroe.army.mil...

but as we have no map, I'm not sure if thats what they're for.
I think I read somewhere that space coordinates have 2 sets of 3 digits but I don't know if thats true or not, anyway, I don't think we are trying to reach the aliens here.
I think that they must point to somewhere on BTS or ATS but I just can't figure out their meaning and it's driving me nuts!

Originally posted by kinglizard
To me the jet seems to have only one tail like an f-16.

looks like an F-4 Phantom.

Originally posted by TACHYON

Originally posted by kinglizard
To me the jet seems to have only one tail like an f-16.

looks like an F-4 Phantom.

its definately not an f-4 phantom

I wonder if at this stage of the game , as we have kind of submitted the eurofighter as a likely candidate for the one in the picture, if DrJim could let us know if his research has led him to agree with us or if he would still like us to help with that information.



(worth a try)

Ok make up your mind is it an f-4 or not.

Thanks Panth and well done for trying the numbers,

Iv tried so much with the filenames and come up with nothing.

The thing im researching at the moment is the FOIA the only thing that i found was the "certain freedom of information act" which can be requested by a US citizen, which i think is this...

DoD Regulation 5400.7/Air Force Supplement, DoD Freedom of Information Act Program, 24 June 2002

From www.randolph.af.mil...

But i dont think this is going to help much.

And i found out that anyone can request anything through FOIA even though DrJim says by a US citizen. Unless there are only certain things that US citizens can request.

Im going to focus on the coords now as im getting nowhere with the FOIA.

Also it definately says There will be 3 NUMBERS not members at coords 417/333 but what worries me is why would 3 numbers give us a resolution?

Even if we do find out what the 3 numbers are how would that help us?

It is worth a try Pantha try U2U DrJim and see what he says.
I U2U ranger the other day but he didnt reply so guess that didnt work but DrJims our best bet!

F-4 Orrr Eurofighter???

I dont think it matters anymore if it does matter this is going to get even more complicated than it already is.

I'm not sure if U2Uing DrJim would work, if he doesn't log on very often to check his U2Us then it's probably best to post in this thread so that perhaps someone might see it and pass a message on to him.

DrJim or someone who can contact him please read this...


Ok DrJim do you need help with the request of the FOIA??
If not can you tell us how far you have gotten with this?
Thanks


Man i feel stupid!

Also is it me or are the coordinates not exactly right?

Look at the 417 more closely... To me its more of an "I" than "1"
Check it out.

So this could make the coordinates 4I7/333



[edit on 7-9-2004 by markjaxson]

You know I think it�s odd that the winners of the last game haven�t contributed to the current one. They were the most �gung-ho� out of all the members on ATS.

As you know their prize was a discussion board of their own. I believe the clue is on their site. It would explain why they haven�t yet participated in this current game. They are aware that it�s on their site and can�t contribute because they are part of the game. It would also be good for them because it would lead more people to their discussion board, something SO likely wants.

What do you think? I bet after they read this post we will get some lame excuse as to why they aren�t playing. So we should concentrate on searching their site.

Good idea KingLizard, do you mean search their board or their website?
Whats there website?
Ignorancedenied.com or something?

I did check on their site earlier and found this:

www.ignorancedenied.com...

(See JcMinJapan 's post)

but didn't know if it was relavent.

Jack.

(While I'm posting ideas that may not mean anything, thought I'd add THIS. Rangers coments just got me wondering, could be something or nothing)

[edit on 7/9/04 by JAK]

Nice job Jack. This is a post from one of the FTR winners. They are talking about the last game.

Originally posted by JcMinJapan
Next time... We get to be on the other side of the fence!!!!!