Judge William Adams beats daughter for using the Internet

Originally posted by gncnew
This wasn't her first time. He said that he told her not to before - so he tried your approach and it didn't work.... Next? Just FYI: the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result.

How do you know he tried reasoning? Im sure the first time he whipped her too. If that didnt work the first time, why would it the second, third or fourth?

Originally posted by gncnew
Did he go over the top in my opinion? Yes. Did he teach his daughter the right lesson? Probably not. Should he go to jail? No.

Agreed, but he should certainly not be re-elected as a judge. His character is certainly lacking. The rage was obvious during his punishment, and the fact his wife simply had to get a lick in too shows her sadism.

Originally posted by gncnew
Again - I'm trying to give some perspective from a parent's side... not to condone the way he handled it... but to remind everyone that this dad isn't just some evil bastard. If that was the case, he'd probably not have a family.

Evil, pehaps not, but certainly sadistic. And why wouldnt he have a family? Evil people dont reproduce?

And please, dont try and take the higher ground and try and "take the parents perspective". Some of us parents have raised wonderful, well adjusted children without abusing them.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by Magantice
reply to post by LeoVirgo

 

Oh please, you cry babies get on my last nerve. Maybe you should help pass laws for the government to put cameras in all childrens rooms eih? This is why humanity is going to hell in a hand basket. Teenagers are out of control and when the get the belt, the bleeding hearts want to raise a big stink about it. Well she wanted to ruin her fathers life and she has succeeded. Happy now?

I honestly believe those out of control teens are the loudest criers denouncing corporal punishment.

That's my opinion though, I cannot prove it. Just a hunch.

I knew several people that were raised in the type of home environment that beating a child was the only way the parents knew how to handle such things...because this ws how they were raised as well-and it ws a very 'hush hush' kinda life...the people were scared to death to ever speak of such stuff happening at home-I highly doubt that there are alot of kids that get the belt, speaking out about it-well unless they have already grown past the age that they dont hve to live at home anymore-because when you live in fear like that, you dont say a word!

This is definitely a hot-button issue right now. A simple search of the man's name shows tons of links related to the issue ALREADY! This will probably hit mainstream news soon. First off, how was the video obtained? Did she film it? Did someone leave the camera in her room on?

Anyways, hitting your child is a good thing to do. It teaches obedience and makes them learn lessons the hard way. When I was out of control as a child my father or mother would hit me. Albeit spanking or just a slap in the face. I would hate them for it at the time, but it really taught strict obedience and showed order to their words. No matter how much we deny it, our parents have the biggest impact on our lives. My friends who have admitted to getting hit a little bit when younger are well-off, intelligent, morally sound, and understanding of consequences. Those who are not are spoiled little brats most of the time. Sometimes a good hit is the only way to get through to them. Hell, in the 50s people were smacked with sticks by their teachers. I don't know about you, but kids these days are utterly disrespectful punks who need a good ass-kicking, the thing is - people simply don't do it anymore.

However, there is a difference between hitting and beating. This is a beating. This causes mental trauma and possibly physical injury. He beat her to the point where she is no longer learning a lesson, she is just plain getting beaten. For whoever is saying 'this isn't our business' you can go # yourself. Children are horrendously abused and molested by parents - that is our business because they are merely children - so innocent. We are all humans and deserve to do justice for our fellow human when they are in danger. There are some horribly messed up people that shouldn't have the right to birth children, and we are supposed to not care just because it is their own child? Please.

Also, Anonymous can go shove it up their asses. They act so righteous, but they themselves (4chan mostly) are an outlet for child pornography. Ugh. Whatever.

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You couldn't be more confused.

There DOES need to be a line drawn, and a point at which the appropriate services step in.

Originally posted by Magantice
reply to post by NadaCambia

 

Or.......maybe she consistantly breaks the rules. again its punishment verses abuse.

But then, even if we call it punishment, it at least does not work. Many supporters of Mr. Adams pointed out that parents spanking their kids do it with remorse (this hurts me more than you ... or something). So when you in princible dont want to hurt your child, and if doing so does not accomplish anything, why just dont do it?

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by spurge


3) Parents expect the government to do the parenting for them.

That's exactly what all of you want.

To remove the rightful parent, and replace it with a government parent.

I rest my case.

Parents do not own children. They're not possessions. And children have legal status and rights. Its a crime to beat animals too!

I have reviewed the Domestic Violence Statue's in Arkansas.

I feel the judge may have known what he was doing was wrong, here is why.

Domestic Violence Statue's Arkansas

(A)Physical harm, bodily injury, assault, or the infliction of fear of imminent physical harm, bodily injury, or assault between family or household members; or

Then when he asked the younger sibling to leave the room, it may have been because of this law.

5-4-702.Enhanced penalties for offenses committed in presence of a child. (a)Any person who commits a felony offense involving assault, battery, domestic battering, or assault on a family member or household member, as provided in 5-13-201 et seq. or § 5-26-303 — 5-26-311, may be subject to an enhanced sentence of an additional § term of imprisonment of not less than one (1) year and not greater than ten (10) years if the offense is
committed in the presence of a child.(b)(1)To seek an enhanced penalty established in this section, a prosecuting attorney shall notify the defendant in writing that the defendant is subject to the enhanced penalty. (2)If the defendant is charged by information or indictment, the prosecuting attorney may include the written notice in the information or indictment.
(c)The enhanced portion of the sentence is consecutive to any other sentence imposed. (d)Any person convicted under this section is not eligible for early release on parole or community correction transfer for the enhanced portion of the sentence.

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Hmmmm, very interesting from 2010

udge William Adams Aransas County Court at Law Corrupt, Child Abuser, Liar, Conspirator I was visiting County Court at Law in Aransas County on October 11, 2010, and I was horrified at what I saw. The case involved custody of a 6 year old child. The mother presented medical records from Texas Mental Health and Retardation Services (MHMR) showing that the child care provider used by the father was homicidal, suicidal, psychotic and heavily drugged among other things. Judge William Adams presiding judge of the Court held that this evidence was “irrelevant.” I heard the lawyer for the mother say “You better hope this child is not hurt.” Incredibly, Judge William Adams just shrugged his shoulders. The father, his lawyer, and the child care provider had all lied earlier claiming the child care provider was perfectly OK. Judge William Adams couldn’t care less about this lie designed to endanger the child. The hearing was obviously rigged and the truth would not interfere with the outcome that had been predetermined. Judge William Adams didn’t even conceal the corruption. The mother testified that the child said his father, his father’s lawyers, and others told him to lie that his mother “touched” him improperly. Also, the child was told that a judge said his mother is a “bad mommy” and to not hold her hand or hug her (and several other malicious things). The mother testified that the events described by the child were corroborated because two waiters at the restaurant where the child said this happened confirmed that the father and child and a number of adults were present at the time described by the child. One of the waiters testified in open court confirming this. The other waiter presented an affidavit. The father lied that he had not been at the restaurant. The child said he was told to lie and say he saw his mother’s lawyer and his mother in bed together. The mother testified the child had no other way to know this lie had been told by the father’s lawyers (without any evidence) so what the child said must be true. There was no evidence that the meeting the child described didn’t occur (other than mere denials by the same people who had earlier claimed that the child care provider was perfectly OK). The lawyer for the father said the child was “fantasizing” yet provided no evidence of this just her statements which were just stupid (there is no reason a six year old child should not be believed and the child is hardly a toddler). Incredibly, the Judge not only ignored the outcries of the child but punished the mother and her lawyer for reporting what the child had said. I was absolutely appalled. The Judge clearly did not care about the truth and was acting completely corruptly. The lawyer for the mother said that it is irresponsible to believe a child and Judge William Adams was agreeing. They effectively called this child a liar with no evidence to justify that. It was obvious to me that they were corruptly concealing the truth of what happened. I attended a later hearing where the father testified that the child was honest and does not fantasize. He said he would be concerned if he the child told him that the mother was telling the child to lie and say that “daddy touched you.” Judge William Adams just ignored what the child said about the abuse the father and his lawyers did to the child (and worked to conceal it). I saw Judge Adams completely deny the mother discovery and punish her for even trying. Judge William Adams clearly had no interest in the truth and in fact was covering up the truth. Judge William Adams was removed from the case within days of the hearing. I saw a later hearing presided over by a different judge, and I observed Judge William Adams slapping one of the lawyers for the father on the back and smiling and joking with him (in the hall outside the courtroom). This lawyer William Dudley appeared homosexual to me. I found the following picture of his partner on the internet. I got to talking to a guy there at the hearing. His name is Stanley Rains. He said these same lawyers denied him access to his child for a decade based on lies and corruption much like I had just seen with Judge Adams. Stanley Rains’ ex-wife had said that some anonymous ladies at a park had seen him there with his daughter playing chase, sitting on a park bench, etc. There was no allegation of wrong doing just groundless insinuation. He was persecuted for years by these same lawyers (Lanette Joubert, William Dudley, and William Kelly). William Kelly is a city councilman most of the time. His wife was driving drunk and had an accident injuring his children. That happened nearly a decade ago. The case still has not been tried due to the corruption r*****ing around these lawyers. Stanley Rains was even prosecuted for a crime. The allegation was totally corrupt and retaliatory essentially that he had gone to the school to see his daughter (which his Court order allowed him to do). He told me that these lawyers always lie and steal children from loving parents. They groom weak and corrupt judges to help them. William Kelly brags about “destroying people.” These same lawyers destroyed the relationship of a man named ***** Doreck with his children merely because his child came home after a visit with “poop on his butt.” These sicko lawyers suggested that poop in a diaper of a child in diapers somehow evidenced sexual misconduct. They also claimed the small child still in diapers said “dad tickled me on the butt.” They say a six year old child should not be believed on who he had dinner with and what was said yet a child still diapers should be believed about dad “tickling him on the butt.” I was appalled at what I was hearing. There is obviously corruption in our family law bar and courts. Stanley Rains told me that William Dudley admitted to being a child abuser. I was absolutely appalled by the behavior of Judge William Adams. He is corrupt, and he was abusing this child subjecting this child to a danger homicidal suicidal care provider and protecting the lawyers who sought to have his mother imprisoned and taken from his life. Stanley Rains told me they do this all the time. They do the same “plays” over and over again destroying many children and parents. They are sociopaths with no conscience and no integrity. In Stanley Rains’ case, William Kelly’s sister in law was the Ad Litem (Jeanette Cantu Bazarre). She lied about interviewing the ladies at the park and made up lies. Stanley Rains never learned that the ad litem was related to William Kelly until many years later. Judge William Adams of Aransas County Court at Law is a corrupt loser. He looks as weak and immature as he is. He looks like a boy with his hands caught in the cookie jar. He looks like he just finished meeting with William Dudley (or his associate). He is a corrupt. He is a loser. Do not vote for him. Be a responsible citizen and watch those elected to public office. Judges should be be responsible and honest people and he isn’t. He wants the approval of lawyers like Lanette Joubert, William Dudley, and William Kelly and couldn’t care less about children or justice. Here is “pretty boy” William Dudley who takes great pains to sound like a professor but who is obviously just a total dumb ass who uses his “pretty boy” sex appeal to win over judges. These lawyers and this judge sicken me. The judge needs to be voted out of office. Please do your public duty and go to court proceedings like I did and let the public know about bad apple judges. It could be you next time. Sicko lawyers cannot function without corrupt judges.

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very serious allegations been posted there. you should tread carefully spreading something like that.

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
reply to post by xavi1000

 

very serious allegations been posted there. you should tread carefully spreading something like that.

That is on net ...im just passing by

Originally posted by LiberLegit

Anyways, hitting your child is a good thing to do. It teaches obedience and makes them learn lessons the hard way. When I was out of control as a child my father or mother would hit me. Albeit spanking or just a slap in the face. I would hate them for it at the time, but it really taught strict obedience and showed order to their words. No matter how much we deny it, our parents have the biggest impact on our lives. My friends who have admitted to getting hit a little bit when younger are well-off, intelligent, morally sound, and understanding of consequences. Those who are not are spoiled little brats most of the time. Sometimes a good hit is the only way to get through to them. Hell, in the 50s people were smacked with sticks by their teachers. I don't know about you, but kids these days are utterly disrespectful punks who need a good ass-kicking, the thing is - people simply don't do it anymore.

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Texas used to hang people of different skin color in the 50s as well. Doesn't make it right. This kind of abuse is a relic of archaic thinking and needs to stop, even in Texas. It's gotta be at least in the 1970s by now, right?

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you are intentionally spreading unproven rumours.

this is where things can get very nasty.

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Who said that this is true? just for considering

Originally posted by Magantice
reply to post by NadaCambia

 

Or.......maybe she consistantly breaks the rules. again its punishment verses abuse.

and who decides, what is proper punishment and where the line crosses over to become abuse?

Originally posted by PapaKrok

Originally posted by LiberLegit

Anyways, hitting your child is a good thing to do. It teaches obedience and makes them learn lessons the hard way. When I was out of control as a child my father or mother would hit me. Albeit spanking or just a slap in the face. I would hate them for it at the time, but it really taught strict obedience and showed order to their words. No matter how much we deny it, our parents have the biggest impact on our lives. My friends who have admitted to getting hit a little bit when younger are well-off, intelligent, morally sound, and understanding of consequences. Those who are not are spoiled little brats most of the time. Sometimes a good hit is the only way to get through to them. Hell, in the 50s people were smacked with sticks by their teachers. I don't know about you, but kids these days are utterly disrespectful punks who need a good ass-kicking, the thing is - people simply don't do it anymore.

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edit on 2-11-2011 by LiberLegit because: (no reason given)

Texas used to hang people of different skin color in the 50s as well. Doesn't make it right. This kind of abuse is a relic of archaic thinking and needs to stop, even in Texas. It's gotta be at least in the 1970s by now, right?

Haha!!! "Gotta be the 1970s by now" that was good. I wasn't speaking for Texas specifically, but yeah you're right. Do you disagree though? You don't think children should even be hit from time-to-time?

What is wrong with some of you people?! He didn't just spank her. He didn't just crack her on the butt a couple of times with a belt. He beat the living crap out of her with that belt, like she was getting a lashing! He BEAT her. I have two boys and they get disciplined but what that guy did is outrageous. That was a clear example of child abuse and i hope he goes to jail for it. Shame on you people who are defending him...I feel bad for your children.

Originally posted by Magantice
reply to post by roswell1987

 

We in this thread are clearly devided over what is punishment and what is abuse. if he had cold coked her and broken her nose yes I would be upset. A whipping with a belt is punishment. Keep it up you all untill the government runs how you raise your kids.

Although I am against the government all the time, I will make a pro-government post for once. Check this bad boy out.

I am thankful that I live in a nation with Constitutional protections of my liberties as a parent.

And the government will most likely protect me from the lynch mob that has formed.

That's kind of awesome in a way.

Muzz made a pro-govt post...Whoa this is the Twilight Zone!

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes

Where exactly were there any ''lies'' in my comments ?

Originally posted by muzzleflash
The LAW in Texas says it's ok to whip your kid with a belt.

I don't give a toss what the law in Texas says. It's probably still legal to marry a donkey over there.

You said it was illegal. Directly.

I provided the evidence that you were wrong.

Now you are saying we marry donkeys as a ad-hominem insult?

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
reply to post by xavi1000

 

you are intentionally spreading unproven rumours.

this is where things can get very nasty.

I agree. he should take that to some conspiracy theory website or something.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
So in the end, I will defend a parents right to beat their child, even if it goes beyond what I personally find acceptable.

Wow, just wow. I feel sorry for your kids. I hope someone comes into your house next time your beating your kids and whips the s**t out of you