Anonymous On a Warpath With Zetas Drug Cartel After Kidnapping Of Group Member

Originally posted by WhiteDevil013
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

 

I wouldnt trust a bunch of computer nerds in a kidnap/hostage situation.....

Trust me ese, you need to talk to La Eme in a situation like this. His name can be taken off the ticket in two seconds if the right people are involved.

Otherwise, the drug cartel will simply say "F--- It Carnal, let these wannabe vatos be exposed, for every 'crooked taxi driver and corrupt cop', there are a dozen willing to take their place, and in this economy probably for even less dinero. I say we TCB of this anonymous thorn in our side"

Sadly, they'll probably find him minus his head.

See smart one just leave this alone.

Stop messing with these guys. They are not playing around. They murder people all the time.

This is a fairly sad situation.

When Anon is forced to act on their threat (I don't really see ZETA's releasing the hostage), the people that will suffer first and foremost will be innocent Mexicans.

Sad all around.

That anon member is as good as dead. And he's probably been tortured as well. God help anon mexico if that guy snitched.

Originally posted by illuminatislave
That anon member is as good as dead. And he's probably been tortured as well. God help anon mexico if that guy snitched.

It is not a matter of if it is a matter of when. Torture works that way.

If he is truely Anon though, the effect will be minimal as he will probably not know any more than those directly around him.

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger


well it seems Anon has joined the drug war with a vengeance having pissed off none other than Los Zetas.

apparently anon in mexico has been conducting a "paperstorm" campaign dropping accusatory fliers naming government officials of corruption and of collusion with the dreaded narco cartel, among other activities.

hmmm if anon is actually cia then why mess with one of the cia's and shadow gov's cash cows.

of course not as those who make said accusation don't understand the nature of anon or OWS

could anons recent activities also be in retaliation to the recent beheading of a blogger critical of the zetas

will anon triumph were the MIC and the drug-warriors have failed?
or has anon [mexico] bitten off more than they can chew?


stay tuned

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OK so even if CIA is involved with Zetas, it doesnt mean that they sleep in Zeta camps 24/7. Zetas can probably do all sorts of things without the CIA babysitting them. CIA probably would let Anon do whatever. It would make good cover for them anyway.

Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
reply to post by tangonine

 

Problem is these cartels can pay to track people down.What makes you think they can't get hackers? They mean business guys.

Just who are they gonna pay to track down a group of elite hackers?
Gangsta "Uber elite" hackers?

seriously? have you thought this through?

Hardcore hackers won't be found out by guys that specialize in logistics and shipping.

Just check with any major government and see how easy it is to track down a specific hacker if they are goood.

Go and find the movie "Red Dawn" and watch it. The scene with the teacher who confronts the paratroopers outside the school building is rather poignant.

edit on 1-11-2011 by Freenrgy2 because: (no reason given)

That's actually perfect! Hadn't thought about that in years, but you nailed it.

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

 

Where have I seen this before?

Ah yes.V for Vendetta.."Do this,or else bla bla bla"

I don't understand why "anonymous" puts out threats.The Zetas get threatened all the time by other ruthless gangs do you think they are afraid of some unknown internet hackers?Even if they release names they still need evidence that those people are in the gang.Anonymous is playing with fire.

And why would Anonymous go after gang members and not the government?

Correct!

Because they are the government.

Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
reply to post by tangonine

 

Problem is these cartels can pay to track people down.What makes you think they can't get hackers? They mean business guys.
What makes you think that the people that kidnapped this guy was a shill group to play you off against a army of killers?
Stop f--in with these people.
Do you like being tortured to death then butchered? Dismemberment? Acid? Burning?
Anon is a convient CIA paid shill being used to stear a mexican cartel into one of thier problem groups.

If you think CIAnon is just random people your stupid.If they were, they would have been assasinated a long time ago. Your being played.
They are controlled opposition. They are already infiltrated by government agencies.

Perhaps you haven't actually read my posts. I'm giving 95-5 odds that you haven't.

I actually feel sorry for the guy that was kidnapped.... Anonymous just signed the death sentence to him. If the CIA wants to know everything they know they will make sure that they will release everything they know so this poor guy is actually in danger because of the drug cartel and the CIA.

my 2 cents

reply to post by alkesh


So what do you expect people to do, just roll over and let them rule? At least someone out there has the balls to stand up to these bullies.

Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman

Anonymous is a CIA front.

Get real. No one in america cares what a drug cartel is doing other than DEA/CIA.

i disagree at the very least this is bad for business and will cost them, economically
why rock the boat?

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
What are they gonna do? DDoS the cartels FTP server? How exactly are they going to do anything?

funny you should say that
use of FTP servers is quite common in the underground i happen to know a guy who sells numbers and uses one disclaimer i only help out with his windows needs

legitimate cash transfer business often use them as well

Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
You saw the guy that got liquefied in a drum can of acid?

seen worse been there, done that, got the bloody t-shirt. :yawn:

reply to post by autowrench

exactly, both sides of the drug war merge and are controlled by the spook agencies, thanks for your post though i see on the next page that some don't get it

reply to post by BadNinja68


yup but don't forget many members are highly susceptible to fear-mongering sooo...
classic sun-tzu, really, if you can scare off your opponent to the point of his refusing to contemplate attacking you...

reply to post by Gorman91

both the drug dealers, and the drug warriors actually answer to the same controllers
ever heard of controlled opposition?
forgot that part of the iran-contra scandal equation was drugs?

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reply to post by WhiteDevil013

Sadly, they'll probably find him minus his head.

hopefully not but if his head rolls it will soon be followed by many more

reply to post by jhn7537

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reply to post by tangonine

The zetas will find one or more of them. Then they're going to rape their mothers and sisters (and probably their fathers and brothers), then they're going to kill them and display their bodies in public.

Not sure what world you think you're living in, but in the real world, this is how groups like the zetas handle things. This won't end well.

Which is greater? the threat of exposing a corrupt official in Mexico (I laughed when I typed that) or the threat of the zetas killing your entire family down to the cousin level?

Ll are you a spokesman? fearmonger much?

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

maybe they lacked incentive 'till now?
maybe that's the plan?
maybe fighting pedobear has been keeping them busy?
reply to post by Erongaricuaro

saludos! thanks for posting hope you'll stick around and contribute more, from your own unique perspective;
but of course safety first
what's your opinion re outcome?

thanks everybody for your replies
back later

reply to post by DerepentLEstranger


that video is kinda creepy...have any members ever been caught that are known at the time to be anon members? I mean I know this guy was kidnapped but did they know he was anon before they kidnapped him?

They say that the most dangerous weapon in the world is the pen, so I guess its advantage anonymous.

The zetas will find one or more of them. Then they're going to rape their mothers and sisters (and probably their fathers and brothers), then they're going to kill them and display their bodies in public.

Not sure what world you think you're living in, but in the real world, this is how groups like the zetas handle things. This won't end well.

Which is greater? the threat of exposing a corrupt official in Mexico (I laughed when I typed that) or the threat of the zetas killing your entire family down to the cousin level?



Ll are you a spokesman? fearmonger much?

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

Not a spokesman, genius, but I know enough to know how they work. are you an idiot?

Originally posted by Firefly_
reply to post by alkesh

 

So what do you expect people to do, just roll over and let them rule? At least someone out there has the balls to stand up to these bullies.

The only solution is a military one. They're no different than a terrorist group.

Having said that, it'll never happen.

Originally posted by 11I11
They say that the most dangerous weapon in the world is the pen, so I guess its advantage anonymous.

“Whoever said the pen is mightier then the sword
obviously never encountered automatic weapons.”
― Douglas MacArthur

That is laughable, they want to release cab drivers names who are connected to drugs. The list of cab drivers who are not connected to drugs has only two names on it. They want to release a list of the entire population of Mexico, minus a few individuals who are not connected to the cartels in some way. How is this going to do anything?

Originally posted by PrimalRed

Originally posted by 11I11
They say that the most dangerous weapon in the world is the pen, so I guess its advantage anonymous.

“Whoever said the pen is mightier then the sword
obviously never encountered automatic weapons.”
― Douglas MacArthur

"No nation was ever changed with a pen... ever."

-me

If the NSA can't bring down Anonymous what makes anyone think Los Zetas is anything to worry about?

Los Zetas uses old school shock and awe fear tactics to make-and it looks to me like it is the case with a large percentage here-people afraid to even question them. Cutting heads off and raping family members is the same thing done in warfare. It don't work. It only serves to create a rebel force and gets that rebel force the support of the people. Why? Because if you cut some guy's parents' heads off and rape his family you end up turning a normal loving human being into a psychotic killing machine who WILL get even if you don't manage to kill him, in fact he will get more than even, and he'll probably be the most dangerous person you ever met because he no longer has anything to lose. It's the stuff underground rebel force movements are made of.

That's what's wrong with shock and awe fear tactic warfare and that sort of mafia mentality. Eventually everyone becomes your enemy and when you lose the support of the public, you will FALL - it's a fact of war.

If Anonymous is really a bunch of citizen hackers, then it would be in Los Zetas best interest to let their friend go because not doing so only hurts their grip on power. It don't matter how "bad" you think you are or how much power you think you have or how unstoppable you think you are. If the masses do not respect you and they all secretly want to see your demise - you will come tumbling down. It's a fact of history. They can't kill all of their customers and the laws of economics mean that if they want power and money, then they have to have more customers than they have people working for them.

All I'm saying is cutting off everyone's head don't work. You might scare the hell out of people and get your way for awhile, but in the end the entire concept falls flat (it's a fact - I didn't make it that way).

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. It's really kind of upsetting to see so many who either are afraid of some drug cartel or who are somehow in some strange sort of admiration of their power. No one would be acting like whoever with Anonymous made this ultimatum should be running for the hills if they had mouthed off about Blackwater or some private merc group. You really think a private merc group couldn't do all those things Los Zetas are supposed to do? Yet people will happily run their mouths about a private merc group - it makes no sense. It's just conditioning that's all. Conditioned to fear. And conditioned to fear a policy that history says will ultimately fail, at that.