What is the flash before the plane hits the building?

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by waypastvne

 

It's a missile designed to pierce hardened targets. Duh.

Are you saying you can't explain how missiles work using physics ?

You can't explain it to us without contradicting yourself. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

Your only hope is to avoid the subject. I'm not going to let you do that Truther.

What are the design differences that make a small missile like a JASSM penetrate better than a large missile like a Boeing 767 ?

The JASSM Penetrator concept is a P3I to the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile (JASSM) to replace the baseline warhead with an advanced penetrator that meets or exceeds the objective penetration requirement specified in the JASSM Operational Requirements Document (ORD) and to add a synthetic aperture radar (SAR) seeker for adverse weather precision attack capability. The warhead concept is a 1000 pound dense or ballasted penetrator. The warhead would either be designed with a dense metal case or contain dense metal ballast for maximum penetration. The warhead will be filled with advanced insensitive explosive to compensate for the reduced charge weight. The JASSM will be compatible with the B-52, F-16, F/A-18 (threshold), B-1, B-2, F-15E, F-117, S3, P3 and JSF (objective). This concept uses the Hard Target Smart Fuze (HTSF), an accelerometer based electronic fuze which allows control of the detonation point by layer counting, distance or time. The accelerometer senses G loads on the bomb due to deceleration as it penetrates through to the target. The fuze can distinguish between earth, concrete, rock and air.

www.fas.org...

The less dense object gives way to the more dense object at the point(s) of collision.

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by Varemia

 

Do you have some kind of imagination where a stationary object becomes stronger the faster an object is impacting it?

No, but you guys apparently believe when an object gets to 500 MPH it becomes much stronger than the object it collides with.

My simple point is to reverse the words to demonstrate how faulty your reasoning is.

A plane striking a building at 500 MPH is the same as a building striking the plane at 500 MPH. You guys think the plane becomes a light saber at that speed. "Use the Farce" should be your mantra.

Not stronger... containing more energy. Think about it. More energy, more damage. The plane was not intact from the moment it began to pass through the wall. The thing is, it attained damage only as it entered the building, not before. There was no solid place for it to bounce back from. There was air, so the momentum continued forward.

All this and it doesn't change a sausage. I think it was an inside job, but I also think this flash IS from the oxygen tank and/or air pressure as explained on page one.

What use is there in putting missiles on a plane that is already going cause enough damage. There are so many elements to the conspiracy the no planer/ holograms etc. that seem so unnecessary. If your going to have a conspiracy surely you want to make it as simple as possible such as having an actual plane crash into an actual building.


So again, I agree the flash is clearly explained as having resulted from the impact not prior to and doesn't change my view that it was a false flag.
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

NO PLANE can go this fast on ground level, if you try, it becoms impossible to handle.
No arabs on yhe pass.list, no hijacked planes, NO PLANES

Get a grip on reality, you ar living in a cartoon world...

Planes hit towers, towers burned. Towers collapsed.

Who did it?

Originally posted by eyesdown
All this and it doesn't change a sausage. I think it was an inside job, but I also think this flash IS from the oxygen tank and/or air pressure as explained on page one.

What use is there in putting missiles on a plane that is already going cause enough damage. There are so many elements to the conspiracy the no planer/ holograms etc. that seem so unnecessary. If your going to have a conspiracy surely you want to make it as simple as possible such as having an actual plane crash into an actual building.


So again, I agree the flash is clearly explained as having resulted from the impact not prior to and doesn't change my view that it was a false flag.
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edit on 1-11-2011 by eyesdown because: spellin

Why They didn't Use Planes

Originally posted by pshea38

The less dense object gives way to the more dense object at the point(s) of collision.

This is a dense object. The steel this is made from would make A36 steel look like butter. It out weighs the JASSM and was traveling faster.





I don't want a copy paste. I want one of you to explain to me how a missile could create the damage seen at the world trade centre using physics.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Planes hit towers, towers burned. Towers collapsed.

Who did it?

It was probably the Truthers.

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What I was referring to was the idea that all the footage was doctored by the CIA and or it was a hologram,I am not against the idea that they may have been empty planes, cargo planes, missiles made up to look like planes.

Edit to say: I read the article properly and it seems you are suggesting it was doctored footage

Originally posted by waypastvne

Are you saying you can't explain how missiles work using physics ?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Do I need to explain it using physics? Will you think less of me if I don't?

Haven't you ever taken a stick and thrown it like a spear? It sticks in stuff better when it's stabbed with a piercing motion than swing like a bat. What, you need physics to know this, man? Haven't you ever fallen out of a tree?

What are the design differences that make a small missile like a JASSM penetrate better than a large missile like a Boeing 767 ?

I don't know, you tell me, and then tell me why missiles even exist when 500 MPH aluminum sheet metal is all they need.

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Planes didn't hit towers, therefore the media did it.

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Planes didn't hit towers, therefore the media did it.

And why would they do that?

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Planes didn't hit towers, therefore the media did it.

Are you phil Jayhan? Just curious.

Tv fakery theories and no plane theories at the twin towers have been proven to be disinformation.

But you know that already thats why you are here.

Originally posted by WASTYT

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Planes didn't hit towers, therefore the media did it.

And why would they do that?

Because they're the propaganda arm of the military.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Planes didn't hit towers, therefore the media did it.

Are you phil Jayhan? Just curious.

Tv fakery theories and no plane theories at the twin towers have been proven to be disinformation.

But you know that already thats why you are here.

Pardon me, but who the eff are you anyway?

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There never were any towers... Anybody who says so is a paid shill of the conspiracy.

Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by WASTYT

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Planes didn't hit towers, therefore the media did it.

And why would they do that?

Because they're the propaganda arm of the military.

You do realize how absurd the tv fakery theory is don't you? It's impossible to have pulled that off.

Who are you? Morgan Reynolds?

Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Planes didn't hit towers, therefore the media did it.

Are you phil Jayhan? Just curious.

Tv fakery theories and no plane theories at the twin towers have been proven to be disinformation.

But you know that already thats why you are here.

Pardon me, but who the eff are you anyway?

Someone who finds people who knowingly spread disinfo and lies and destroys them.

You can say I sat at the table where these disinfo theories were hatched.

reply to post by waypastvne


The building outweighed the jet by hundreds of thousands of tons, what's your point.

How much damage would just one 7-ton wall panel consisting of three box columns tied together with steel spandrels do to the wingtip if they collided at 500 MPH?

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Don't take any crap from Shadowherder, Phil. He's a truster. He actually believes there were towers. LOL