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What is the flash before the plane hits the building?

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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by septic

I don't know, you tell me, and then tell me why missiles even exist when 500 MPH aluminum sheet metal is all they need.


Dude JASSM missiles noses are made out of fiberglass same as the nose of a boeing 767 they can't cut steel.

Don't you remember you said it can't. Do you want me to find the quote for you ?



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:13 PM
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This is for Shadow and his choir.

I don't think you're being genuine. Why not encourage people to be curious and to ask questions, thereby reaching an honest consensus?

After ten years, I am very tired of hearing your types tell me not to look at all the leads. It makes me think you've got something to hide.
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by septic
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The building outweighed the jet by hundreds of thousands of tons, what's your point.



The building out weighs a JASSM missile by even more. A JASSM missile is incapable of penetrating the A36 steel with its tiny fiberglass nose.



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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Why the @#$% are you guys talking about missiles?



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by DrEugeneFixer
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Don't take any crap from Shadowherder, Phil. He's a truster. He actually believes there were towers. LOL


More than that. We are aware of the concentrated effort of 911 disinformation.

Yes. yes, quote someone else, keep this crap going... Steel melts at x F and holograms, ya, ya, and tanker plane, ya, and tv fake ya, ya, inside job/ ya.

Really how stupid do you think ATS readers are?



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by septic


It makes me think you've got something to hide.


Yes he is hiding something and here's your first clue




post by Shadow Herder
You can say I sat at the table where these disinfo theories were hatched.



Shadow Herder incubated most of the disinfo we see today.
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by septic
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Why the @#$% are you guys talking about missiles?


They are talking about 911 disinformation and how to keep it alive.



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by septic


Why the @#$% are you guys talking about missiles?


You brought up the subject. Do you want me to link you to the post.

I'm talking about it to tease you with your own theory Truther.
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:26 PM
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Whats next kiddies? When are you going to segue to the the towers were hollow or the flight 175 was a windowless fuel tanker?



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Whats next kiddies? When are you going to segue to the the towers were hollow or the flight 175 was a windowless fuel tanker?


I am guessing soon after a couple of off topic personal questions.....



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Whats next kiddies? When are you going to segue to the the towers were hollow or the flight 175 was a windowless fuel tanker?


I am guessing soon after a couple of off topic personal questions.....


Questions? You are the one who provided the evidence: It was pure white, had no rivets, flew under the power lines and over her car without making a sound, then pulled up before it hit the trees and crashed over there. So yes I have lots of questions. The first one is: Did this UFO come from Planet Truther ? Is that how you guys got here? Did you know any of the Truthers that were on it ?



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by septic


Why the @#$% are you guys talking about missiles?


You brought up the subject. Do you want me to link you to the post.

I'm talking about it to tease you with your own theory Truther.
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What, the on-topic comment I made a few dozen pages ago? Why bring up missiles now is what I meant. But it was rhetorical just the same, which means don't answer it.



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 11:40 PM
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He's demonstrating the faulty nature of your own reasoning. Just ignore it. Trying to engage him is just going to make your head hurt. You don't have what it takes to prove that a missile could damage the towers (using your own rules of evidence).



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by septic
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Why the @#$% are you guys talking about missiles?


They are talking about 911 disinformation and how to keep it alive.



You mean like ten years of Truth movement fakes saying "no planes researchers are disinfo"? Shadow. Please. Who do you think you and your silly counterparts are fooling?

All the ban threats and the accusations of "disinfo" are not even subtle examples of controlled opposition.

If you've been with the "truth movement" for ten years and you don't know it was funded and maintained specifically to steer doubters away from the truth, you're not much of a truther. I'm calling you out too, "herding from the shadows". Want to go for the title? I challenge you to a no-planes debate.



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by septic

What, the on-topic comment I made a few dozen pages ago? Why bring up missiles now is what I meant. But it was rhetorical just the same, which means don't answer it.





You laid out your rules of what can and cannot happen during an impact. Now we are going to apply your rules to a different projectile. A JASSM missile seems to be one your familiar with, would you like to choose another one ?

You do remember all the reasons you said why it couldn't be a 767 ? You typed them not me. I remember them if you don't, and I'll be happy to remind you of them as you tell us how a JASSM missile works. So now you backed your self into a corner with no way out. The only thing you can do is put on your tap shoes and dance.

Dance for us Truther.



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by septic
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Why the @#$% are you guys talking about missiles?


You are trying to tell people the lie about the missile pods, holograms, and tv fakery/ space weapons..... Really?
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posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by septic

What, the on-topic comment I made a few dozen pages ago? Why bring up missiles now is what I meant. But it was rhetorical just the same, which means don't answer it.





You laid out your rules of what can and cannot happen during an impact. Now we are going to apply your rules to a different projectile. A JASSM missile seems to be one your familiar with, would you like to choose another one ?

You do remember all the reasons you said why it couldn't be a 767 ? You typed them not me. I remember them if you don't, and I'll be happy to remind you of them as you tell us how a JASSM missile works. So now you backed your self into a corner with no way out. The only thing you can do is put on your tap shoes and dance.

Dance for us Truther.


I get the feeling you and the rest of your team are trying to close down this thread.



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 12:04 AM
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You are trying to tell people the lie about the missile pods, holograms, and tv fakery/ space weapons..... Really?


Gawd, are you a piece of software or something? You sound like you're stuck in 2003. The truth has evolved, in spite of your best efforts.



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 12:09 AM
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What is it now then?

Most can agree even after reviewing ALL the evidence that the theories you are pushing are not your own and they have been debunked from both sides of the fence.



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