Can Satan read our minds??How about demons and other kinds of spirits?

Originally posted by InshaAllah
reply to post by Not Authorized

 

youve proved nothing here. Adam was not created from dust. the freaking world was not created in 6 days. its like im arguing with infants.

with that said, im going to just go ahead a politely walk away.

Do you know what I was proving? That the Holy Spirit 2000+ years ago anticipated every point of your heresy's that you've posted. You argue against the Holy Spirit, not me. Prove me wrong that the scripture does NOT anticipate and shred every heresy presented here.

So yes, politely walk away as you can't refute that everything said or posted in your book from 1922-1950ish so far has not been refuted by scripture written by the Spirit of God. Again, you are proving any Christian based in scripture is right, when we employ Acts 17:11, coupled with the full armor of God in Eph 6.

The only reason I'm even bothering responding is that I know that the Word will NOT return void. Whether it be you, or someone else, is not my job or concern. (Isaiah 55:11). That is the Holy Spirit's job.

To start, your claims are just another Arianism heresy re-written into a different package.

It's funny, in a sad way, as you said Satan is not very active, yet the very book you quote from proves otherwise. He is quite alive, and quite well, and is the Father of lies. Clearly you have bought one of his lies line, hook, and sinker. I see him and his host active in every conceivable way when I turn on the TV, visits forums such as these, read a newspaper, or even drive down the street.

So lets go thru some points of "The Fifth Epochal Revelation". Do you know what scripture says about such "Revelation"?

Gal 1:8-9 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

I think the Urantia qualifies for being accursed as:

1.) The rejecting Christ's atonement

1 Cor 1:18 - For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

2.) Rejecting his Deity with claiming he's Michael

John 1:1 - In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

3.) Claims that the Eternal Son is not Christ, but that this Eternal son is the second person of the trinity,

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life"

More examples being Gen 22, Isaiah 53, Matt 16:5, Luke 9:35, Matt 17:5, 2 Peter 1:17, and the Entirety of Psalm 2 in which the Trinity discusses who is the Son.

4.) That Christ was not a virgin birth

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Implications of the Virgin birth all the way back in the Garden of Eden. Furthermore, Isa 7:14 and Mat 1:23 shred this view.

5.) That he did not walk on water (of course, cause only the OT YHWH could do so). No wonder you'd have to reject that notion.

Job 9:8 - Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.

6.) Jesus could return multiple times.

Luke 21:8 Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

Others being the Gospels of John, Luke, Matthew, Mark, Paul (romans), and Revelation, Acts, Hos 5:15, etc. Pretty much list all the Bible if you want to.

Yeah, I think it qualifies according to scripture. Clearly Romans Chp 1 applies to you, and my only hope is that God has not given you over to your own devices for eternity. Sadly, you will realize that you were wrong is when you will see Christ and must bow to him and confess he is the Blessed God, the seed of David, the Light of the World, etc. at judgment.

I am fully convinced you are another person that is perfectly possessed. Not knowing you are a home to demons and a tool for their goal. You are only re-enforcing the fact that demon possession DOES take place today with every post you place in this thread, for you are filled with the Spirit of Antichrist as John lays out in 1 John 2:18,22 1 John 2:22, 1 John 4:3, and 2 John 1:7.

Now I will politely walk away, and watch you prove demon possession exists even more.

And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by deadeyedick
www.mindpowernews.com...

We have the tech. now to read and control minds.
Yes demons can read our minds.
The proof is in the paranormal studies.

So should we walk around with tin foil hats on our heads???

Satan wants us as he has many but truth be told we hold the keys into and out of
his realm. - Embraced by the Light -

Tin foil hats are just silly.
Now a copper hat might do the trick.
en.wikipedia.org...
I think i should open up a coffee house that is a faraday cage.
Come on in and get a break from those waves.
Are you planning something above top secret then come in and conspire without the frustration of tptb knowing your plans.
Faradays Coffee House

Originally posted by eeks4
Just wondering..I have heard that yes Satan can read our minds and no Satan cannot read our minds..Does or would anyone have any logical proof on this?? Is there anything in the bible about this??Thank you for your help

Personally, I think he can read our minds. I think people do NOT give enough "credit" to the abilities of the Shining One, in fact, when Jude talks about not speaking ill about dignitaries, he uses the weirdest example and chooses Satan in Jude 1.

Scripture furthermore states that the Antichrist will appear with all power, signs, and lying wonders in:

2 Thes 2:9 "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders

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Since the pseudo-christ will come with the Power of Satan, and he has all power, signs, and lying wonders, I think mind reading is very possible.

Also, 1 Peter 5:8 states: "Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls about like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."

Remember, Peter is talking to spirit filled believers.

James 4:7 also adds: Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you

The real question should be if a spirit filled believer, can be demon possessed without giving consent. I personally do not believe so. However, if a spirit filled believer "invites" another spirit as Paul states in 2 Cor 11:4 I think they can be possessed.

Other possessions prior to salvation probably occur with and without consent (as given by accounts from the occult, or kids playing with Ouija boards). This is why followers of the Way (as it was called then) would have people acknowledge and banish any demons present during conversion.

Once I found out this fact, I banished any existing demons I had a couple years ago. Within a week I was attacked physically nonstop for 1 1/2 months with daily multiple re-occurring migraines w/ aura's, so much that all I could do was endure immense pain, couldn't keep anything I ate down, and had symptoms reminiscent of a stroke throughout the time frame from numbness to slurred speech.

Today my field of vision from that time still has not returned to 'normal', and I see occasional shimmering of objects. Sometimes I wonder if those are the demons that were cast out, but who knows.

reply to post by Not Authorized


I despise bible thumbers with a passion.
Mind you, I am a spiritual person but this is just bs about who the bible knows everything and only the bible is the truth.

Why do none of you think logically? Okay, Satan is the father of lies. Who's to say he didnt start the religion to have you praise a false god? You got to put every detail into play because you're faith is not 100% right. Just because you believe in something doesn't make it true. It's called false hope. Take this for example: I want a million dollars. I believe I will have a million dollars. But that doesnt mean its going to happen. "You have to believe" Well ok, I really believe I will have a million dollars. Doesnt mean its true.

Cant you bible thumpers take the dang book as a piece to the puzzle like all other sacred textbooks? Riddle me this, you say the bible is the one true thing but you were raised that way. What if you were raised muslim or islam? Huh? Wake the heck up.

Don't you think its quite possible the devil COULD HAVE written all this stuff? I mean you arent supposed to know his lies, hes that damn good at it. You cannot pick sides or else you lose. You must take it all as a piece to get the real puzzle figured out.

Peace

Take this for example: I want a million dollars. I believe I will have a million dollars. But that doesnt mean its going to happen. "You have to believe" Well ok, I really believe I will have a million dollars. Doesnt mean its true.

reply to post by Soulece


Positive thinking works for me all the time.
You can have the things you want.
The trick is for your plan not to cross with someone else's plan.
If it does your mind must be the strongest to see it through.
You can prove me wrong or right the choice and ability belongs to you.

reply to post by eeks4


All i can tell you about is my experience i dont know who you are so i dont know who you have upset or your potential.

I tried reading this thread but got a bit disillusioned with all the references to the bible no-one can know if the bible is correct and theres a load more evidence saying its more incorrect than true and its just being used by tptb to control and divide us, i really dont know if there's a god or not and i'm pretty sure no-one else does either but each to their own and some will take this post as their could be a god because of the connection with the evil spirit if thats what you can call it its more like evil energy but if you look into houngang then make of it what you will.

I'm a shoe repairer and have been fighting the biggest shoe repairers in my country, now the guy that owns this chain is a top level freemason who is friends with the richest of our society, he has continually stolen from me, first my bonus when i worked for him then he got the company that managed the building i was working in to lie to me saying i could of had the shop where the company that employed me were going out of business this would have set me up for life but gave the shop to him, he also tells his staff to charge the customers that use his shops more than the price list which is always hidden out of easy viewing he calls it savvy pricing.

I set a shop up in a small town against his shop and then he tried to destroy me, not a lot affects me so all his spite wasn't working then after a few months i awoke one morning and there was this shadowy smokey like thing rising up above me disappearing over the counter it looked like an upside down christmas tree in shape and i didn't know if i was still dreaming or not so went back to sleep putting it out of my mind,

I've been doing shoe repairs for around 15 years on and off and probably cut myself once or twice a year but that day cut myself 3 times, i was annoyed with myself as you would be and then at the end of the day my mate came into my shop and told me my ear was swollen, had a look in the mirror and noticed a small piercing wound on my ear lobe and started to think about my early morning dream. woke up the next day and cut myself again and then thought this isn't right so i started looking online for similar stories which i found i then looked for ways to protect myself from what would appear from all other accounts as a spirit i ended up imagining a psychic shield around me i had never known anything of the sort about spirits os psychic shields and thought i was going mad but it seemed to work and my daily routine returned to normal if you can call it that,

A few months went by and i was going to bed again and i could feel this evil in my room again, it was the same feeling as the previous time and i was so scared by this feeling that i had various tools next to me and after a few hours i dropped off to sleep, normally takes me about 3 minutes to fall asleep and again when i woke up in the morning my ear was pierced once again i cut myself once more and then put this imaginery shield up and then all was back to normal,

i've since worked out that my so called friend helped this person get my dna they then use this via a houngang to cast evil spirits upon the chosen person.

I've noticed every now and again thoughts that come into my head that are totally out of sinc with what i'm doing or feeling, thoughts that do not fit in as if put into my mind.

The thing about this is i've only touched on some of the stuff this guy has tried to do to me as it's in relation to your question and that when you fight this type of person you start to realise what the truth is and what isn't and this has led me to other experiences, as i've really p####d a lot of people off who are way above this guy as he is only a pawn being used by the ones in real control what with one thing and another they really don't like people like me knowing whats going on but unless you've experienced this you won't ever understand it.

reply to post by Not Authorized

Once I found out this fact, I banished any existing demons I had a couple years ago. Within a week I was attacked physically nonstop for 1 1/2 months with daily multiple re-occurring migraines w/ aura's, so much that all I could do was endure immense pain, couldn't keep anything I ate down, and had symptoms reminiscent of a stroke throughout the time frame from numbness to slurred speech.

Man, it sounds like you had a stroke. You better go to the doctor.

One must remember that if he or she believes in the Bible, then Satan is real. Remember he is on the same level as Christ, as a fallen angle, but will be defeated one day when the time comes. Now as for your question: I feel Satan can read ones mind and can have total control over any person. I do not have the book or verse handy, but I know it is in the Bible. One has just to look around at the madness that is going on around this world to know that Satan is up to no good and his minions as well. One good thing has happened. If you believe in Jesus and repent of your sins, you will eventually unite with him and all of your loved ones who have passed on one day. I just wish everyone Peace and that means the rest of the world too.

If you believe in God and Satan, as I do, then you should know, that both can read your mind. Therefore, you must always side with God, who represents truth and light, and immediately dispel thoughts of lies and darkness from you mind.

Only my opinion.

Originally posted by Phenomium
reply to post by Not Authorized

I did, and had an MRI or Catscan? to confirm I didn't have a brain tumor (which I was for sure I had). No stroke, no heart attack. Just massive migraines w/ aura's nonstop for a month and a half.

You talk of Satan and demons so must know something of the Bible.

How about you just read it properly. The answers are all there.

Satan as far as I am concerned is a fictional deity that does not exist, however there are a number of people who beleive in this evil god and worship him. Many have pointed to the Illuminati among others as worshipers of Satan/Baphomet and these people hold great wealth and power.

The last 60 years (at least) has shown us that these worshipers of Satan and other made up gods are capable of anything think how strong peoples faith in religion is for example Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism et al. (which are meant to be holy righteous & good etc...

Now flip that around and think the exact opposite you are then dealing with people who are basically devil worshippers and are capable of any evil and depravity.
I personally do not beleive in such a character as Satan as beleiving such a thing could open you up to some very bad programming from these proponents of Satan be careful.

Live a happy and long life and steer away from thinking about such cr*p there are much nicer and better things in life to occupy yourself with this is just my honest opinion and I hope I have not caused you too much offence.

reply to post by DManc77


Here's another thing about Satan. God represnts light, right?

Satan IS light. "Son of the morning" "The brightest star" "The brightest angel" "The most beautiful angel"

So many loop holes in religion. That's why I take it as a piece.

Originally posted by Soulece
reply to post by Not Authorized

 

I despise bible thumbers with a passion.

Thank you for despising me. You are proving John 15:18 is 'real', by proclaiming such, and considering Christ quoted and spoke concerning quite a bit of scripture, I can see where you stand with him.

If the world hates you, you know that it hated me before it hated you.

Mind you, I am a spiritual person but this is just bs about who the bible knows everything and only the bible is the truth.

Wiccan's are spiritual people too. So are Satanists. Your "Spirituality" means nothing to me for the purpose of this discussion.

Why do none of you think logically? Okay, Satan is the father of lies. Who's to say he didnt start the religion to have you praise a false god?

And this is where you fail in the argument already. I have no 'religion'. I have my faith, which was given by God, not man. Christ himself was 100% anti established religion, and quite frankly I have nothing positive to say about modern day religious establishments.

Second, you fail to follow your logic entirely. For there even to be a lie, requires the existence of a truth. What is truth?

Truth is when the word and the deed become one.

Scripture claims to be that truth, and it does so by telling the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10). He did so, as before Adam and Eve even walked out of the garden of Eden, they were already taught that only by the covering of innocent blood would they be redeemed, and that person would come through Eve's seed in a virgin birth. This was accomplished over 2000 years, proving the definition of truth I provided.

I guess the cross is only an RCC idea, yet it's plainly in the Torah before Yeshua ever walked the Earth.

Third, Christianity is not a religion. It is a personal relationship with the Creator of the Universe. The one who delights in making and keeping his promises. Going to 'religion', is actually the opposite.

You got to put every detail into play because you're faith is not 100% right. Just because you believe in something doesn't make it true. It's called false hope. Take this for example: I want a million dollars. I believe I will have a million dollars. But that doesnt mean its going to happen. "You have to believe" Well ok, I really believe I will have a million dollars. Doesnt mean its true.

I have put every detail into play, and your faith is found wanting. Likewise, just cause you don't believe the bible is true, doesn't make it untrue. That is your own false hope. No Christian God, no accountability, everything is relative right?

Heck, you even started off by proving Christ's words true with your hatred. If you're attempting to make an argument with the statement like the Bible is BS, maybe you shouldn't start your argument proving exactly what was stated would happen. You are only re-enforcing faith of those that believe at that point.

Cant you bible thumpers take the dang book as a piece to the puzzle like all other sacred textbooks? Riddle me this, you say the bible is the one true thing but you were raised that way. What if you were raised muslim or islam? Huh? Wake the heck up.

Cause the puzzle was already 'solved', when Christ hung on the Cross on Calvary. Riddle about in Romans 1 and you'll have your answer. You already match some of the description Paul gives in some aspects.

Oh and there are converts from Islam. They just usually don't last long as they are executed in Sharia law nations when they proclaim their faith in Christ. As a special note, no one seeks out God. God seeks them first, that includes those who have never heard the gospels. Clearly you have no background of Christian theology sans the Discovery channel in your argument.

Don't you think its quite possible the devil COULD HAVE written all this stuff? I mean you arent supposed to know his lies, hes that damn good at it. You cannot pick sides or else you lose. You must take it all as a piece to get the real puzzle figured out.

Sure, he could have. Maybe Satan could even become incarnate and have been Christ himself. *rolls eyes*. There's to much text to go to showing how dead wrong you are. Then again, there are two spirits. The Spirit of God, and the Spirit of AntiChrist. It's pretty black and white, which one are you?

Either way you've shifted into secular relativism. Since there really is no truth, then you have no truth either. That alone leads to a fallacy in your entire logical reasoning you claim to cherish.

In addition, this reminds me of Pharisee's of the day claiming Christ was casting out demons by Beelzebub.

Go on despising me some more spiritual one. You're only reinforcing our scriptures truths.

reply to post by Soulece


It is the old duality trap left/right dark/light good/bad red/blue etc... encouraging people to choose a side I choose neither hope that makes sense Soulece.

reply to post by Not Authorized


Firs off, yes you are religious. Anyone who follows the good book down to detail is a christian. Whether you accept it or not. Doesnt matter if you have faith, you are religious. And with being religious comes blindness. Is it impossible that religion could have been tweeked from the tower of babel (where there was ONE religion and it branched off) by say demonic entities? Oh yes, I have read the bible. I know the game. I used to be a christian until I decided I do believe in a god but the stuff this book says sounds really.... really fishy. All it is is a book of morals thats it. It was their times way of saying it. We were going to have a bible no matter what, its inevitable. People will wonder about God. Then people will put down THEIR own thoughts and claim things. Religion is there to brainwash you.

Personally, we're one star in this gigantic universe. God doesn't just rest on us. He rests on heaven (the stars we see each night; space). The bible is one tangeant of the story. As it the Quaran or any other sacred text. If you deny those, you have failed man. You lose the game and need to accept being ignorant. The same can be said about the bible, you deny it, and claim your religion is right is just bias. Religion is very biased. SOmetimes you need to think for yourself on these things if it really matters to you.

I've spent years studying religion. I used to be an altar boy. I did all that jazz. But I branched out. I dont like to be told what to believe, id rather figure it out on my own. And your bible is not the only answer. Its another piece to the puzzle. It's proved in Genesis with the tower of Babel. How it was broken off into different "languages".

The bible speaks in dualities. Learn up on that. Says one thing means another.


Good game.

Im sorry im harsh.

But I wish people woke up.

You're asleep if you believe every word the church and bible tells you. It's biased as heck. You need to take every little bit of info and piece it together.

Nothing is really wrong. But then again not one thing is pure in this world. Didn't you know that? That means things have flaws. Or just not the whole picture.


I can get really deep into this man, I'm like 6 years in preparation of this. I love debating this with people who recite texts from the bible and only the bible. It's rather humerus.

reply to post by Not Authorized

Third, Christianity is not a religion. It is a personal relationship with the Creator of the Universe. The one who delights in making and keeping his promises. Going to 'religion', is actually the opposite.

I appreciate your words and reading your post just there. I do want to point out this as questionable however, because Christianity certainly does qualify as a religion, and has been one since Paul and other apostles formed the original Nicean churches, and you know which churches were formed considering the many letters which were written them. I have no real contention otherwise. I wanted to point out that it would be disingenious to avoid calling Christianity a religion simply to avoid the label.

People hate certain labels, but, that's not really our problem when it fits. The truth is, demons and the underworld will, on par, be at war against all who are holy, all that is sacred, and against anyone who attempts to follow the ways of God Almighty, as they reach out to God under any religion. As for humans and humanity, there's so much nonsense and misunderstanding, so much intellectual pride and short-sightedness about religions to the point that you need to take a step back and see matters circumspectively. It may not be someone's time to learn, or want to learn, and all you can do is be patient and not worry about it.

My aunt, a family friend I know as my aunt that is, is well into her 90's now. She gave me three pieces of advice to her longevity. Sleep plenty, eat lots of fruit and vegetables, and never argue about religion!

I have walked on the dark side of things. Satan and his demons are very real. Remember you can not have one with the other, there would be no understanding of "good" if you did not recognize "evil". Just like you would not not if something was bad until you tried it.

PLPL

reply to post by Soulece

You're asleep if you believe every word the church and bible tells you. It's biased as heck. You need to take every little bit of info and piece it together.

Then again, if God blessed His words, and intended them for the eduction and benefit of mankind, it matters less about source and effect. Their effect on our lives and souls, on into the spiritual side is something not so easily measured nor is quantifiable. What was healthy and effective for ... us ... is obviously something leprous to you. So be it. (And I am far from "asleep". )