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No need to quit smoking during the apocalypse

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posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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reply to post by Six6Six
 


are you for real?

no surely not...?

really?

jesus!

edit: ok just read on...

"So I am just wondering if we really want to make 666s nonsense more visible, or if we might take control and just stop this now so 666s comments die with this thread. "

spot on


so I shouldn't have really posted and encouraged the fascist troll... apologies op

on topic... My friend smokes one of these, they make me nervous as they haven't been tested properly apparently...
edit on 21-10-2011 by doubledutch because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by Six6Six
reply to post by Rocketman7
 


Smokers are weak and often they are considered easily breakable.

Plus they smell bad and quite frankly you can never trust a person that needs a drug to operate.

I would vote for smokers to be rounded up and be the first in line in the depopulation agenda. Plus they are a drain
on the Medical system right along side fat people!

I rank smokers along side pedophiles, rapists and religious zealots and obese people!
edit on 20-10-2011 by Six6Six because: (no reason given)



I'm gonn'a suggest that I think you are being sarcastic or 'cute' otherwise I take offence to what you say pally..............



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Dilligaf28
Smoking during the time that TSHTF will betray your whereabouts to those that would find you to do harm to you.

This whole thread is an add for e cigs and should be deleted.


Cigarettes can be used as a time delay mechanism for improvised ... devices. Nicotine also increases the effectiveness of short term memory which might come in handy if you need to scout something quickly.



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by Druid42
reply to post by JohnPhoenix
 


I will be doing a post soon, and perhaps creating a new thread, because you and others I want to call out have valuable information to share....


Yeah, PM me when you make that thread if it's not a post in this one. This I wanna see.

I assume you are anti all forms of nicotine ? If that's the case then you can stop wasting your time. We know there may be some possible side effects from long term use of some of the chemicals used in some of the e-liquids. We do have scientific studies on the safety of inhaling most of the liquids and the e-cigs effectiveness as a quit smoking tool. The idea is for those who cannot quit any other way is to have a much safer alternative to smoking cigarette tobacco with all it's chemicals and combustibles that cause harm. This we know we have in an e-cig and have the science to prove it. We are not worried about any possible small health risks from long term use of e-cigs. We know it's much safer than continuing to smoke cigarettes. It will not kill us like smoking cigarettes will. We have heard it all before.

Looking forward to your thread/post.



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by Six6Six
Well I will admit when I have lost a small battle.

I can not continue fending off so many different people as we all know that cowards hunt in packs.

I am but one person. So enjoy your smokes. But I do truly hope those that smoke do get Cancer of one form or another.

I really do hope that. Because when you are explaining to your "loved" ones that you are dying they will truly know that only an idiot did not know that would happen. They will know that deep down the cig was more important than them. Your childrens faces when they have to see a weak old person with a breathing aid will be something I hope lives with them for a long time. Carry on hating yourselves enough to smoke. But he warnings are there. Smoking KILLS. Not just you but others too.



Lol! You are very funny! I personally was a smoker but i quit almost 1 year ago. I must say it was not easy.

Even if i quit, i know i will die someday and my loved ones will probably still be there. Wont you die too? Or because you didnt smoke you are kinda "imuned" to death?

Peace out



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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Rockman7, John Phoenix, and CoherentlyConfused, I am drawing you out to another thread where you can explain your expertise. I will appreciate your comments, as you three seem to be the most knowledgeable on the subject of E-cigs.

I read this thread, all twelve pages so far, and have distinguished you guys as "experts" in this field. I'll admit I am a smoker of 26 years.

However, after reading this thread, I googled places locally that sell E-cigs. I found one that sold a starter kit for 14.99 USD. 1 battery, 2 carts, and a simple USB charger. I drove out and bought it.

(I won't tell the brand in this thread, wrong forum, but visit the chit-chat thread to find the nitty-gritty)

It hit like a cigarette, they ship with a half charged battery, and are fully functional when you buy them. I was wow. I hit it a few times, unscrewed the battery, and let it charge the 5 hours the IM said. The light went green, fully charged. I screwed the cartridge back in, wow, once again. The brand of E-cig I bought was barely different from what I usually smoke.

Here's the clincher. I quit buying cigarettes long age. I bought a 79 USD cig injector, and have buying tubes and pipe tobacco (at tax code L) ever since.

Until this thread, and I heard about the E-cig a while ago, the unit 70 USD and carts 15 USD, which didn't appeal to me price wise, I had no clue of the advancements made.

Definitely an alternative, especially after TSHTF.

Please help me out and VISIT THIS THREAD.

I am fascinated by the amount of flavors available. I've researched E-cigs all afternoon.



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 06:52 PM
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posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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This is my first post after lurking for a couple years, so be kind. I purchased an e-cig kit about 4 weeks ago and have not had a cigarette since. I was a pack-a-day smoker for about 7 years. This concept is literally too good to be true, so I am just waiting for TPTB to make these products illegal to own. Supposedly there are already a few states that are currently working on this.

If anyone on here is as smoker and wants to quit tobacco, try it. One tip, get one of the higher-level nicotine juices so your cravings can stay in check. DO NOT buy the ones in stores - they are often not refillable and almost appear to be of shoddy quality so you go right back to tobacco. I vape all day at work and home. I can smell things again and I even have a bit more energy. I can breathe. Plus the juices are DELICIOUS (and cheap). There is forums everywhere about this stuff so research before you buy. I plan on acquiring a SHTF bulk stock of juices
Happy vaping everyone!



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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I'm hoping the triplesix fellow is just a troll. If not the type of thought form he holds will kill him faster than smoking. Rage, angst, stress, hatred... this does more to break down your body than many think. If you spend so much of your time wishing death and destruction on others you really just bring it upon yourself.



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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Canadian boy here. Yes, we've suffered from insane prices for cigarettes for many years. Recently i have tried some ecigs, and although its not as satisfying as the real thing, its saved me a few bucks, and I can smoke them anywhere. It does turn a few heads in public areas ie. the pub, the ballpark, the airport, but fills the urge. Im not 100% off of real smokes, ive reduces signifigantly.
Anyways, great US company offers this at:

www.thesafecig.com...

Cheers!



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 08:05 PM
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I'm hoping you are just a troll. If not the type of thought form you hold will kill you faster than smoking. Rage, angst, stress, hatred... this does more to break down your body than many think. If you spend so much of your time wishing death and destruction on others you really just bring it upon yourself.

Oh and btw I'm a religious zealot, have you got a problem?

edit on 21-10-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 08:45 PM
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Wow! I step away for a day or so from this thread and upon coming back I find it has disintegrated into diatribe between a few about Satan and ciggs. I won't get into the Satan thing, all I will say is ....well when you leave this big beautiful planet you will learn if you were right or wrong about whom you worship. Now there that said.
I am in the medical field. I am going to give you one specific situation. Be aware now: this is a graphic description of my own experience: If things like autopsies etc bother you do not read:
When I was a student in first year of training I was ordered with others in my class to go to an autopsy.
If I recall correctly the man was in his mid 60s. As the pathologist began to show us the various organs he pointed out specifics in detail of what to look for. things like enlarged heart, and arterial blockages.
when he got to the lungs he found several small tumors. But they could barely be seen because the tissue that was normally pink was black and coated with a tar like material.
when he got to the kidneys he showed us one artery, removed it held it between his hands and bent it,....It snapped in two... Arteries are muscle. Not glass, and not anything breakable. At that point two people in my class passed out on the floor..[we were very new to this]
the Pathologist then explained that this man had smoked a pack a day for more than 25 years.
I couldn't believe how compromised this mans system was. No way he was breathing right for the past 10 years...no way he could get any blood to his brain, and it appeared every single organ in this mans body was affected.
. I am not defending anyone nor am I attacking. I am simply stating what I know to be a fact. We all must die. but..we do not have to die slowly and in such misery. I used to totally enjoy my smokes. but I discovered I enjoyed the Jasmine smell of the Moon flowers in the evening. I discovered I was putting way to much hot sauce on my chili because I couldn't taste it. when I quit a whole new world opened up to me I had totally forgotten. Smells, tasting, ...You loose much of all of that. I decided I enjoyed the smells and tastes much more than the tobacco. but to each his own.
DH



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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Fool.



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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I got the audio book based on the subject matter being very interesting to me and and look forward to listening to the rest of it. Thanks for the suggestion.
However, I just can't help but post my utter distaste for the introduction by #ing Newt Gingrich and his audacity to talk about Orwell's 1984 and how it protected us from a totalitarian regime by informing us of what would happen if we didn't stay diligent. What a joke. That bastard has the cheek to actually say that crap even after he showed so much support for regimes in this country that came right out of 1984. If anything, it is men like him that are going to cause the plot line of this book (One Second After, not 1984) to unfold because of their constant war-mongering provoking such hatred towards this nation.

More on subject, I've seen many people list tobacco as a crucial supply in their BOB's even though they don't smoke just as you posted. I find your insights into the e-cigarettes to be rather intelligent, and I think I will include an old one that I got before I quit smoking into my Faraday Cage containing my backup power generation and data storage devices. I also would like to add that if anybody keeps a survival seed bank, heirloom tobacco seeds would be a nice addition for the same reasons as the OP suggested.



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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Double post. How did that happen? I didn't hit the button twice... Lame.
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posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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I'm sure I know smokers that have more willpower than you could ever conceive of, and could run circles around you. I've known marines that smoke 2 packs a day and can still run a 17 minute 3 mile...it's a personal choice that has nothing to do with any weakness.



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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Wooooow, 12 pages to read on this fridaynight. The first post that 6six6 made, made me laugh my *ss off completely, whilst smoking my $ 8.00 Hoyo de Monterrey des Dieux cigar. Never heard such a BS like IT (he or she or it?) stated on this board. Never seen anybody like IT before. Being very offensive, but as soon as someone says anything that doesn't suite IT, IT needs to turn into a snitch and threatens to go and report the person who made the comment. So who's really the pathetic and sad one here?

@ IT (6six6) you must be a really lonesome person. You probably do not have any friends (except your satanist buddies), I wouldn't want to be your friend, not even if I was a (smoking) serial killer. If I was the latter, you probably would be number one on my list, because you're so anoying and tiresome. I'm not a shrink or psych or whatever, but you really seem to have an issue with child rapists and pedophiles. Do you care telling us about the source of your frustrations? Did anything bad happened to you as a child, and therefor you've become a satanist?

Your hatred and fake believe in your superiority is really pathetic and frightening at the same time, your hatred will kill you probably much sooner then my $ 8.00 cigars will kill me. If I would be a religious person I would pray for you to start seeing things in perspective, but I'm not. I bet that if you would be converting all that hatred into love, you could be a 2nd Mother Theresa.

What kick do you get out of it bringing people down in a time that everyone needs to get together and unite to fight evil. Unless of course you are true evil and want it to prevail. But then you're gonna be in for a big big surprise, believe me.

On Topic; I 've been a smoker for almost 30 years now. I smoked about 1 package of 50 grams a week. Until 2 years ago I quit and started smoking cigars
I never tried an e-cig before, but I don't think I really could enjoy it. But that could just be my preconceived opinion.

That's all Folks ! I just had to give my opinion about IT, the urge was really to overpowering to just let it be. I'm now gonna enjoy my recently rolled blunt, forget all about this thread and try to finally finish this **** of Angry Birds


Ukuthula !

Ps, forgive me my linguistic errors, but remember, my english is probably much better then your dutch !



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by Plotus

Originally posted by Six6Six
reply to post by Rocketman7
 


Smokers are weak and often they are considered easily breakable.

Plus they smell bad and quite frankly you can never trust a person that needs a drug to operate.

I would vote for smokers to be rounded up and be the first in line in the depopulation agenda. Plus they are a drain
on the Medical system right along side fat people!

I rank smokers along side pedophiles, rapists and religious zealots and obese people!
edit on 20-10-2011 by Six6Six because: (no reason given)



I'm gonn'a suggest that I think you are being sarcastic or 'cute' otherwise I take offence to what you say pally..............


You take offense. Do I sound like I care???? NO. What I say is in fact correct and it stands as is. If you smoke then you are no better than what I have listed above. My ranking system is of equal opportunities. Too bad. Plus I am not your "pally". Ok my little friend? Thanks for the comment though!



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by WeirdOldDude
Wooooow, 12 pages to read on this fridaynight. The first post that 6six6 made, made me laugh my *ss off completely, whilst smoking my $ 8.00 Hoyo de Monterrey des Dieux cigar. Never heard such a BS like IT (he or she or it?) stated on this board. Never seen anybody like IT before. Being very offensive, but as soon as someone says anything that doesn't suite IT, IT needs to turn into a snitch and threatens to go and report the person who made the comment. So who's really the pathetic and sad one here?

@ IT (6six6) you must be a really lonesome person. You probably do not have any friends (except your satanist buddies), I wouldn't want to be your friend, not even if I was a (smoking) serial killer. If I was the latter, you probably would be number one on my list, because you're so anoying and tiresome. I'm not a shrink or psych or whatever, but you really seem to have an issue with child rapists and pedophiles. Do you care telling us about the source of your frustrations? Did anything bad happened to you as a child, and therefor you've become a satanist?

Your hatred and fake believe in your superiority is really pathetic and frightening at the same time, your hatred will kill you probably much sooner then my $ 8.00 cigars will kill me. If I would be a religious person I would pray for you to start seeing things in perspective, but I'm not. I bet that if you would be converting all that hatred into love, you could be a 2nd Mother Theresa.

What kick do you get out of it bringing people down in a time that everyone needs to get together and unite to fight evil. Unless of course you are true evil and want it to prevail. But then you're gonna be in for a big big surprise, believe me.

On Topic; I 've been a smoker for almost 30 years now. I smoked about 1 package of 50 grams a week. Until 2 years ago I quit and started smoking cigars
I never tried an e-cig before, but I don't think I really could enjoy it. But that could just be my preconceived opinion.

That's all Folks ! I just had to give my opinion about IT, the urge was really to overpowering to just let it be. I'm now gonna enjoy my recently rolled blunt, forget all about this thread and try to finally finish this **** of Angry Birds


Ukuthula !

Ps, forgive me my linguistic errors, but remember, my english is probably much better then your dutch !


Wow, you put some real effort into posting a message to me. Thank you. I did read it with interest and I am very happy that you took the time to respond to me and not to the thread.
A lot of you seem determined to just reply to me and not the OP's topic. Do you all want me to hear you?

Unfortunately, from my pedestal I gaze down at you with pity. Smoking is vile and the people who do deserve the cancers, pain and death that is inevitably coming their way. Too feel the pain and torture of slow death gives me a slight upwards curl of the lips as I strongly believe that no one deserves it more.

The e cigs the OP is talking about is a far cleaner option for those who have to tolerate smokers. And yes I mean tolerate. Non smoking superiors hold smokers in contempt. If you are determined to kill yourselves then you deserve to die! I have asked Satan to welcome you!



posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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I'm hoping you are just a troll. If not the type of thought form you hold will kill you faster than smoking. Rage, angst, stress, hatred... this does more to break down your body than many think. If you spend so much of your time wishing death and destruction on others you really just bring it upon yourself.

Oh and btw I'm a religious zealot, have you got a problem?

edit on 21-10-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)


I am not a troll. I do not think that the way I think is going to kill me. In fact its people who need to smoke just to get through a day that have nothing to live for.

I do agree with you that hate, anger and stress age the body and mind...however, even though my posts have a degree of hate and anger through the mode of typing I am not in fact that way. I have a great life and few select friends. Yes most are part of the Church of Satan or Lucifer's Church (as all the most successful people tend to be) I do happen to mix with good god fearing citizens too. Religion or ones beliefs are not what make a person.

I support the idea of world depopulation and do not believe jobs should be given by companies to the unemployed. If you care to hear my thoughts please just ask and I shall open a new thread.

The E cig though is a great step in the right direction for those who smoke regular cigs. For most it will be too late (a few less people on the earth shall not really matter) but those who change over in time, good luck to them. It takes proper will power to stop such a degrading habit that has no logical need.



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