Open questions to all worshippers of the christian faith

Originally posted by ScottishBiker420
If god is everywhere,then why do you have to go to church to speak with god?

You don't have to, where does it say that in the Bible?

Matthew 6:6 -
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

If god created everyone equal,then why are people born with horrific disfigurations,disabilities and other life changing illness and disease?

That is because there is Sin in this world, not because of any personal Sin, of which God already speaks about the consequences of; however, they are just victims of unfortunate circumstance.

The law of equivalent exchange doesn't really exist for everything in the world, anyways.

After all, would you blame God for the deformities of a few, but not credit him for the blessings of one born into a wealthy and rich family?

If natural disasters are truly an "act of god",then why does god carry out these acts?

"Act of God" is just a legal term for events outside of human control, such as sudden floods or other natural disasters, for which no one can be held responsible.

If christianity is based on forgiveness,then why go to confession or try to be good in life if all thats required upon arrival at the pearly gates is a simple sorry?

Christians don't go to confession, those are Catholics. Our Bible also teaches us to live a good life, but good works do not get you into Heaven, I don't know where you got that impression. Didn't you know no one is perfect?

And yes, all that is required is repentance, asking for forgiveness, and accepting Christ into your heart.

If jesus was the true son of god,then why did god allow him to suffer,if you were a parent how can sitting by and watching that happen to your own flesh and blood not be cnsidered evil?

So true! God should have said "Nah, I don't want my son to suffer. Damn the whole world."
Then we'd all go to Hell.

You don't think God wept when his Son died on the cross? That what makes it so damn powerful, for God so loved the world, He gave his one and only Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Let the drama begin!

Oh, I see you were just trying to create drama because of some ulterior motives instead of actually truly wondering the answers to these questions; that explains why they were worded in such a way to place blame entirely on God - all while still ignoring Satan - because after all, if you ask a question and assume God is real, for sake of argument, you must also assume Satan is real. Then it starts to make sense.

Originally posted by PosterNutbag
Here's another, if accepting Jesus as your Lord and savoir is the ONLY way to heaven, what about people who never get this message (hear the word of God)? Like tribes in third world countries. What about all the people that were alive before Jesus was born? Did God change the entry rules?

Never heard of missionaries? I still don't doubt that there would be at least 1 person who has never heard the word at some point, but God knows the hearts of everyone, and if they would choose to follow him or not. If there was some indigenous tribesmen in the middle of nowhere, God would inspire Missionaries to bring the word, and give them the same chance everyone else has.

Besides, before Jesus returns, there won't be a single person alive who hasn't heard the word of God

Originally posted by PosterNutbag
Here's another, if accepting Jesus as your Lord and savoir is the ONLY way to heaven, what about people who never get this message (hear the word of God)? Like tribes in third world countries. What about all the people that were alive before Jesus was born? Did God change the entry rules?

God winks at times of ignorance. You can find that in Acts 17:30
in other words, what you don't know can't hurt you, but those who know the truth will pay the price for not taking heed.

So true! God should have said "Nah, I don't want my son to suffer. Damn the whole world."
Then we'd all go to Hell.

Hmm,given the wars caused by religion and the current state of the world,dont you think we are in hell already???

Originally posted by PosterNutbag

Originally posted by PosterNutbag
Here's another, if accepting Jesus as your Lord and savoir is the ONLY way to heaven, what about people who never get this message (hear the word of God)? Like tribes in third world countries. What about all the people that were alive before Jesus was born? Did God change the entry rules?

No takers on this one?

That was the first irony I thought I had discovered in Sunday school as a little kid. As stated earlier, all of the questions are answered to my satisfaction in the Bible. For instance.

For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness, and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus. (Romans 2:14-16)

God bless the honorable aborigines!

"In peace we can make many of them ignore good and evil entirely; in danger, the issue is forced upon them in a guise to which even we cannot blind them. There is here a cruel dilemma before us. If we promoted justice and charity among men, we should be playing directly into [God's] hands; but if we guide them to the opposite behaviour, this sooner or later produces (for He permits it to produce) a war or a revolution, and the undisguisable issue of cowardice or courage awakes thousands of men from moral stupor." The Screwtape Letters - C.S. Lewis

"My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?" - C.S. Lewis

I would suggest reading Mere Christianity. He was once an atheist.

reply to post by jhill76


The Bible is the most accurate...EVERYTHING that it says ...has or will come to pass. It was written by man true...Inspired by God .

Originally posted by terilynn
reply to post by jhill76

 

The Bible is the most accurate...EVERYTHING that it says ...has or will come to pass. It was written by man true...Inspired by God .

Not true at all. Father would most definitely tell you otherwise. Above knows what was changed and what was not. Again, you may can say this to others, but definitely not me.

- Marriage between man and woman, was not given to man. This was added by man.
- The story of Job, is not 100% accurate. (It's patched together like a pretzel.)
- Satans Fall (The whole story is not there)
- Noah is true.
- God telling man to kill, rape, etc. was mans view of God. This didn't come from Father

Many more like written above.

Originally posted by ScottishBiker420
Hi all this is my first thread,so if in the wrong section please move mods,

This is a summary of my unanswered questions to all followers of christianity,

If god is everywhere,then why do you have to go to church to speak with god?


If god created everyone equal,then why are people born with horrific disfigurations,disabilities and other life changing illness and disease?


If natural disasters are truly an "act of god",then why does god carry out these acts?


If christianity is based on forgiveness,then why go to confession or try to be good in life if all thats required upon arrival at the pearly gates is a simple sorry?


If jesus was the true son of god,then why did god allow him to suffer,if you were a parent how can sitting by and watching that happen to your own flesh and blood not be cnsidered evil?


Let the drama begin!

1. You dont....

2. It's not God's fault, you want the guilty one, look in a mirror. Humans causes these affects.

3. Never heard of that

4. Well I'm sure a God would know if you are really "sorry"

5. Jesus already knew what was going to happen to him, the real question you should be asking is why didnt he flee. It was his choice not God's

Originally posted by crazydaisy
Very good questions, I too want
to know the answers.

This one as well - if children under the age of 12 are
innocent and have no sin, why does God allow them
to suffer?

edit on 18-10-2011 by crazydaisy because: (no reason given)

Do you expect him to cast a spell to make all children invincible? Get real.

ok, i have a question for christians too..

what is your take on this:

A God who knows the future is powerless to change it. An omniscient God who is all-powerful and freewilled is impossible.

if god is all knowing and already knows everything and what is going to happen then he can't change what happens because then he would have originally been wrong in knowing what was going to happen. if he knows that he was going to change something that was going to happen then that thing would have already been known and he couldnt change it because he already knew it was going to happen like that.

so he either isnt omniscient or freewill doesnt exist

reply to post by xxblackoctoberxx


Total freewill doesn't exist. Man, has the perception of free will. Father changes the plan all the time. But, it's mainly because of new information gathered from multiple sources.

97% of all is written, the rest 3% is up for review and change.

Originally posted by xxblackoctoberxx
ok, i have a question for christians too..

what is your take on this:

A God who knows the future is powerless to change it. An omniscient God who is all-powerful and freewilled is impossible.

Why would he want to change it if everything is already setup to pass how its intended to. Freewilled God is impossible, Do you have any proof that its impossible or am I forced to believe it? You can't prove something to be impossible like that, humans ego's are astounding. lol

reply to post by Evanzsayz


yes, i have as much proof as the bible

Originally posted by Evanzsayz
humans ego's are astounding. lol

i know right?

like the human belief that we were specifically placed here by a omnipresent god because for some reason we are so special. out of all of the vastness of the universe we happen to be god's special little creations. oh ego, i love thee

reply to post by ScottishBiker420

If god is everywhere,then why do you have to go to church to speak with god?

If you look at the Lord's Prayer, it says, "Our, Us, and We". God is not everywhere in that particular mode. God is only everywhere in a specific way in order to insure the continued existence of the universe.

If god created everyone equal,then why are people born with horrific disfigurations,disabilities and other life changing illness and disease?

Everyone is equal in that they have a moral value as being a part of the collective extended god being.

If natural disasters are truly an "act of god",then why does god carry out these acts?

The universe is a harsh environment. God made the universe but does not direct its functioning to be evil.

If christianity is based on forgiveness,then why go to confession or try to be good in life if all thats required upon arrival at the pearly gates is a simple sorry?

Because that is a false assumption that grew out of a debased Medieval Church which would sell you salvation. Salvation belongs to those who do not do evil.

If jesus was the true son of god, then why did god allow him to suffer, if you were a parent how can sitting by and watching that happen to your own flesh and blood not be considered evil?

God's desire for the salvation of humanity was enough to cause Him to be able to overcome that concern. Also God had it in mind to make up for this, afterwards, by placing him as the first of the new resurrected mankind.

reply to post by jhill76


I have to jump in here. I have answered on the first page the questions originally asked by the op. I can also defend my answers because the best way to answer a question about God, Jesus, or The bible is prayer and The Bible itself. I am willing to answer any "Honest Question" from anyone. But that is one of two reasons I post this now. The second is because I am almost sickened that someone claiming to believe in God would go so far as to say God commanded people to RAPE??????????? You have to be kidding me and yourself as well as God to make such a statement. Where in The Bible did you find that? And as far as what a person decides is accurate or inaccurate in The Bible leaves Man or Woman in the seat of Judgment , deciding what is Gods' word and what is not. Its dangerous ground to tread upon and I think maybe you should reconsider. The Bible says be not many teachers knowing that we are liable for greater condemnation if we teach falsley..

reply to post by CherubBaby


The bible does have it in there. I said that it is false. I'll PM on the others.

And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. -- Numbers 31:15-18

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion." (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

There are over 10 direct references. Father did not give this to man to write.

reply to post by jhill76


The scripture you quote is NOT a COMMAND , it's a prophecy of things to come by the hands of men. It's describing what is going to take place. Not commanding it..

reply to post by CherubBaby


I never said it was a command from God. Men thought it it was a command from God. They thought it was ok to do these things. It's not what Father wanted.

Above I quoted the wrong scripture, I had too many windows open.