Zionist and the bloodline of Tubal-Cain

Many members of ATS express the idea that there is in existence some malevolent power behind observable Economic, Political and social degradation.

People generally refer to them as TPTB (The powers that be) not knowing exactly who they are but knowing of their existence through the deliberate and targeted degradation of society.

This is something that has really bugged me for some time, why is it that the American and British government seem to be against their own people, why is it that the media are deliberately trying to rot the brains of the young and corrupt them by promoting low values, why is it that society is breaking down around us.

Has the British and American power structure been infiltrated by some outside controlling force which wishes to bring down our nations?

It has been suggested that if you want to find the answers to these questions that you follow the money trail back to those who are doing the manipulating. Money equates to power and therefore it seems reasonable that these manipulators will have positioned themselves in leading roles in the Government and media.

These people do not confront us openly but instead they choose the sneaky method of slowly infiltrating key positions of power and once in those positions using that as an opportunity to corrupt from within, the Trojan horse method or the wolf in sheep’s clothing. In this way society rots from within like an apple whos core has gone bad.

Though it has always been my desire to identify these people and expose them it was whilst researching into something I thought was completely unrelated that I found an answer.

I was doing some research into the genealogy of the Bible, specifically those who survived the flood in Noah’s ark. It was whilst researching into Japheth and his decedents that I found something a little disturbing. I found that a specific name was used to describe Japheth’s direct decedents and the nations they later founded “Goyim”.

The word “goyim” specifically relates to Japheths blood decedents who founded the white European nations. Another word to describe these people would be the Aryans.

What I found disturbing about this is that I had previously come across the word goyim but at that time I did not realise it related to white Europeans and their nations.

I had seen the word mentioned by the Zionist Jews in the text “the protocols of the learned elders of Zion”

The text talks about how the Zionist Jews will work themselves into key position of power in “goyim” (European) nations and corrupt from within. The text talks about how they will control the media and use it as a tool to promote negative social values to the young goyim. It talks about how they will gain key positions in government and use this to increase immigration into nations occupied by the goyim, also how they will use the media to promote inter racial relationships with the goal of creating increased genetic diversity i.e. their goal is to destroy the bloodline descendants of Japheth.



The scary thing is that it is happening and you can actually see it! White Americans are descendants of Europeans as are Australians, Canadians, South Africans and the Zionist Jews have the goal of infiltrating and controlling all goyim nations!

So why do the Zionist Jews hate the “goyim” so much? I found that it has to do with two bloodlines that have been at war with each other since antiquity.

At school you were taught the story of Noah’s flood, how Noah built an ark and all humans perished except those who were safely within the protection of the ark. You were told that Noah had three sons and it was the bloodline descendants of his sons that repopulated the world.

This is not exactly true, the flood story firstly doesn’t relate to the entire population of Earth but is regional and therefore relates to the history of a specific peoples.

The Zionists Jews trace their bloodlines back to Noah’s son Shem however Japheth was not Noah’s son, he was the son of Tubal-Cain and therefore of a different bloodline!

So in effect the war is between the descendants of Noah and the descendants of Tubal-Cain via Japheth. It is the bloodline descendants of Tubal-Cain that the Zionist Jews call “goyim scum”

The Zionist Jews are of the opinion that they are YHWH chosen people, quite interesting when you do some research into who exactly YHWH is, aka El Elyon, aka El Shaddai, aka Jehovah, aka Enlil, aka Zeus brother of Poseidon (Enki)!

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so, zionists are the bad guys ?

Great thread, now I've got something that I'm interested in researching, thank you it's been a while.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a documented fraud. That being said, basing any kind of argument on a fraudulent book of anti-semitism renders your point moot.

What is the original conventional meaning of Zionism?

It is a political ideology that was founded in 1897 which supported the establishment of a jewish state in the ancestral homeland of the ancient Israelites where jews could live free of persecution. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

The ideologies you refer to relate to the alleged hidden agendas of the global elite, which have nothing to do with true Zionism.

If there is an elaborate conspiracy at play behind the scenes to profit financially by propogating a perpetual state of military conflict throughout the world, then history has shown that we are all pawns whether we are Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, etc.

Great video, I watched it a few days ago and could not stop watching all the related videos, it really makes scence but I try to bring this up with my buddies but they don't see it. It all reminds me of john carpenders movie "They Live"

Well in America nobody really cares or pays attention to bloodlines. All Americans know about blood is that it carries diseases and if you donate you can get some money for food. So to say Americans have some sort of agenda I'm thinkin...........not so much.

Originally posted by jtap66
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a documented fraud. That being said, basing any kind of argument on a fraudulent book of anti-semitism renders your point moot.

No matter how many times you call it a fraud people will still read it because it is historically and philosophically significant. So please take your book burning elsewhere.

Originally posted by jtap66
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a documented fraud. That being said, basing any kind of argument on a fraudulent book of anti-semitism renders your point moot.

And yet...what the OP is accounting seems to be happening (the various Zionist lobbies are VERY strong, widespread, and influential), and the research on the Japethites and the descendants of Tubal Cain doesn't rely on the Protocols.

Interesting.

To be clear for those not familiar with this, zionism does not equal jews or judaism in general. Essentially refers to the political (primarily secular) political nationalist jewish movement intent on maintaining physical control over the land of Israel (in a good deal of disagreement with many orthodox rabbis, etc.) and exerting various social and political influences around the world.

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Another word to describe these people would be the Aryans.

Don't you say that they are the same Aryans who move from Iran to Europe ??

The same race that Hitler was proud of ?

Adolf Hitler and other Nazi officials had dark hair and were still considered to be an Aryan

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The Zionist Jews are of the opinion that they are YHWH chosen people, quite interesting when you do some research into who exactly

What is their connection to Jacob ?

Originally posted by jtap66
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a documented fraud. That being said, basing any kind of argument on a fraudulent book of anti-semitism renders your point moot.

Would it make the video moot also?????

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People generally refer to them as TPTB (The powers that be) not knowing exactly who they are but knowing of their existence through the deliberate and targeted degradation of society.

Dissatisfied with elites, I've finally decided to call them, the "wish they were elites but alas they're still in diapers, group".

I thought more nephilim related.

Zioinist is to Jews, what the mafia is to Italians. Though the mafia are actually zionists, and so were the Nazi's, and the fourth reicht that is trying to gain NWO as well.

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is the bible wrong in saying Japheth is Noah's son?
I don't get this post.

Japheth is often regarded as the youngest son, though some traditions regard him as the eldest. They are listed in the order Shem, Ham, and Japheth in Genesis 5:32 and 9:18, but treated in the reverse order in chapter 10.

Genesis 10:21 refers to relative ages of Japheth and his brother Shem, but with sufficient ambiguity to have given rise to different translations. The verse is translated in the KJV as follows, "Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born". However, the Revised Standard Version reads, "To Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the elder brother of Japheth, children were born." The differing interpretations depend on whether the Hebrew word ha-gadol ("the elder") is taken as grammatically referring to Japheth, or Shem.

Genesis 5:32 states that Noah had three sons when he was five hundred years old. Genesis 11:10 records that Shem was one hundred years old when his son Arphaxad was born, two years after the Flood. If Noah was six hundred years old (Genesis 7:13), then Shem was ninety-eight years old at the Flood. Ham is further implied to be the middle son in Gen. 9:24 (which says Noah realized what his "younger son" had done to him.)

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I agree with you in the main. I certainly agree that its a group of people who control the gold, Fed etc that hold responsibility for all this ghastly financial manoeuvring and schmuck that has been so destructive and seems to deliberately be trying to hurt us all and destroy our worlds. I hope that we will start to take these dreadful people to task about their responsibility. You don't need war to deliberately destroy a country, but if you do that by financial means, you are guilty of deliberate destruction and you need to be punished. There is no place for this kind of greed among mankind.

Noah lived well before the first Israelite/Hebrew breathed so any claim to his lineage is pure tosh. Noah comes from the ancient mythology of Sumer and the people around that area, his mention in the bible is purely as a 'borrowed' character, if he ever existed, as indeed are the characters from the first 11 verses of Genesis.

What intrigues me is that we appear only to have one of the 12 Jewish houses today, the House of Judea. The other 11 houses are not accounted for after Babylon, from which I believe they were expelled. I have watched on Edge tv a fascinating author whom has researched the missing tribes/houses and he feels they left Babylon and went North eventually settling in the UK.

Now if one goes with this view, then we have 11 missing tribes whom have settled obviously elsewhere, not the promised land. These people will have dissipated or populated areas but through either the advance of Christianity or whatever they have left of their memory of their traditional beliefs and observances they have moved on to a new way of living. Taking this line of speculation then one could possibly make the point that there is one House of Israel's sons who has decided to wipe out the other 11. Why, well the 12th House is made up of a huge percent of Ashkenzi whom are not Semetic and have no true blood line link to Israel, yet they make up the main bulk of the Zionist lobby. The last thing that would be attractive to them and the current Government of Israel, could be people popping up also with a claim to live in Israel with the right chromosones,dna and blood etc.

I have put this up purely as a thought and also to ask if anyone else has wondered where did Jacob's 11 sons and their tribes go as there is no massacre of these tribes anywhere and the author's research seemed well done. I don't dismiss the Tubal Cain point either, with most things its often a combination of factors that create something.

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Those who edited the bible deliberately covered up the existence of this second bloodline in today's society.

To Lamech and Zillah was born a son Tubal-Cain, To Tubal-Cain and Nin-banda was born Japhet whos descendents are the Europeans or "Goyim". Japhet was not Noah's son!

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I had read that there is some connection to Ireland so you could well have a point there:

Here are more noteworthy questions: Why did Jeremiah the prophet go to Ireland? What did he take with him? How is it that he could communicate with the locals so easily? Why was there no war when he brought the Hebrew religion to Ireland. Why is it that the Apostles, who went to the British Isles, found willing ears to their message? Why did it take war to bring Gentile Christianity (the Roman church) to Britain in the fourth century A.D.?

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I consider the politically-motivated and socially-motivated Jew as a Zionist! Not so much that they are directly focused on the creation of Zion itself, albeit true, but because they believe as all Jewish people do religiously that they are somehow "chosen". Here in lies the kicker!

The Political Jew and the Socialist Jew (one that promotes interbreeding and equality amongst the diverse masses of peoples) are not necessarily Religious Jews and are commonly basing their lifestyle of one more commonly associated with a Gentile. The Fundamentalist Jew, however they refer themselves, serves GOD and follows scripture to its entirety if at all possible (very religious).

At any rate, we have masses of these people who believe they are working for the good of all, doing GOD's work if you will, promoting diversity and commonality when all the while the Fundamental Jew, the Religious Jew, will rebuke them as "true" Jews, and nothing less than "Goyim". (I really do hate this word) I hate it because I am a Goyim! I am filth, I am revered as less than an animal in that I am not even edible (debatable).

So, I think the Zionists such as our Government Leaders, Industry Leaders, and neighbors alike are being used by the Political Machine in Israel (also Zionist but a platform that will be washed away once the great cleansing takes place). The Fundamentalist, what ever they want to call themselves, the ones who truly believe they have direct lineage to King David will discard all other Jews when that time comes! They believe that anything outside of their lineage is Goyim and nothing more!

(special note) Sorry I do not believe anything of the sort. I believe that the Jews in Israel today are nothing more than immigrants from a transient past! The truth to who the true "chosen" will be based on how we behaved towards GOD and his creation! That, of course, does not make anyone on any winning side!

Originally posted by LUXUS
I was doing some research into the genealogy of the Bible, specifically those who survived the flood in Noah’s ark. It was whilst researching into Japheth and his decedents that I found something a little disturbing. I found that a specific name was used to describe Japheth’s direct decedents and the nations they later founded “Goyim”.

Goyim isn't a name, it simply means "(foreign) nations." Japheth's descendants founded nations. Ham's descendant's founded nations. Shem's descendants founded nations. (Assuming any of these people were real.)

The word “goyim” specifically relates to Japheths blood decedents who founded the white European nations.

But the same word is also used to refer to Ham's descendants (Gen 10:20) and and Shem's descendants (Gen 10:31). Obviously, goyim does not refer specifically to Japheth's descendants, it refers to every ethnic group descended of Noah (other than that of the book's authors). Since we are to understand that Noah is the father of all living humans, goyim refers to all foreign nations. White, black, brown, Semitic, Indo-European, Uralic, Polynesian, Dunedain, etc.

Another word to describe these people would be the Aryans.

I suppose the authors of Genesis may have identified some Aryan peoples with Japheth. But the Aryans make are only a very small number of the world's nations, and they aren't one that the authors of Genesis were very interested in. The writers and editors of the Pentateuch are much more interested in neighboring Semitic nations, and moderns would understand goyim to encompass the non-Aryans, too.

I had seen the word mentioned by the Zionist Jews in the text “the protocols of the learned elders of Zion”

Fictional Zionist Jews. The Protocols are a work of fiction.

So why do the Zionist Jews hate the “goyim” so much? I found that it has to do with two bloodlines that have been at war with each other since antiquity.

Oh boy, here we go.

The Zionists Jews trace their bloodlines back to Noah’s son Shem however Japheth was not Noah’s son, he was the son of Tubal-Cain and therefore of a different bloodline!

Japheth is a son of Noah (Gen 6:10, 10:1; 1 Chr 1:4). Tubal-cain is the son of Lamech (Gen 4:19-22). The Bible does not record any offspring of Tubal-cain. Unless you have another source for Zionist peri-diluvian genealogies?

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Now when asked, what is a Gentile, it is commonly answered anyone who is not Jewish. Most modern day people are taught that they are Gentiles. So who or what is a Gentile? First of all, Gentile is a lineage of people. All of the Europeans (the people commonly referred to as white or Caucasian) are Gentiles. We will identify these people through the scriptures. Genesis 10:1-5 – “Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal , and Meshech, and Tiras. And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. And the sons of Javan; Elishah,and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations”. Therefore the Sons of Japheth are the people known as Gentiles, here the break down of the Sons. Now lets break down these families: Gomer (Celtics), Magog (Russia), Madai (Medes), Javan (Greece, Syria), Tubal (south of the Black Sea, Spain), Meshech (Russia), Tiras (Thracians). Therefore in the KJV Bible, Old Testament, the Hebrew words “goy” and “goyim” “Gentile” or “Gentiles” begins here with the lineage of the Sons of Japheth. Now we will be look at the lineage of Noah’s two other Son, later after dealing with how these words “goy” and “goyim” or “Gentile” or “Gentiles” are translated in the bible. Now in dealing with this subject (who or what is a Gentile) a person must become familiar with these two words, one in the Hebrew and one in the Greek. In the Old Testament, the English word “Gentile” or “Gentiles” is translated from the Hebrew words goy (singular) and goyim (plural). Their New Testament Greek counterparts are ethnos (singular) and ethne (plural). Many people erroneously believe that gentiles, goyim, and ethne refer exclusively to all non-Jews “Jewish” or non-Israelites. Now the word translated as “GENTILES” is often used and translated as “NATIONS.” All people who are not JEWS “JEWISH” are GENTILES regardless of their ethnic origin is what get stated most of the time. To be clear people are stating that if you’re not of the “Jewish” nation than you’re of the “Gentile” nation. The bible beg the differ, Gentile is a lineage of people and only the lineage of Japheth. Now in the KJV Old Testament, the Hebrew words “goy” and “goyim” are translated nation(s) 373 times, heathen(s) 142 times, gentiles 30 times, people(s) 11 times, and another 1 time. Not once is goy or goyim translated non-Jew “Jewish” or non-Israelite. But we will look at how the translated used and reason out of the bible with the translation. Here in Genesis 10:2, 5, 20, 31-32 we see “goyim” (Gentiles) being used for the translation of nation. The three nation that come from the three Sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Genesis 10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. Genesis 10:5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations “goyim” (Gentiles). Genesis 10:20 These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations “goyim” (Gentiles). Genesis 10:31These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations “goyim” (Gentiles). Genesis 10:32These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations “goyim” (Gentiles): and by these were the nations “goyim” (Gentiles) divided in the earth after the flood. As seen when adding “goyim” (Gentiles) to the text, the definition and application of the Hebrew word “goyim” is not as narrow as some people would make it. Here are some other examples out of the Old Testament, try replacing the word “nations” translated from “goyim” (Gentiles), or even with the word “non-Israelites” in Genesis 25:23 where Rebekah was informed about her twin boys, Jacob and Esau: And LORD said unto her, Two Gentiles or non-Israelites are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger. Try the same in Genesis 48:19 where Jacob blesses Joseph’s second son Ephraim: He also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of Gentiles or non-Israelites. Try replacing the word “nation” with “non-Israelite” in Jeremiah 31:35-36 where God promised both houses of Israel that He would never forsake them as long as the sun rules by day and the moon by night: Thus saith LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; LORD of hosts is his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a Gentiles or non-Israelite before me for ever. The four preceding examples demonstrate that the definition and application of the word “nations” translated from “goyim” (Gentiles), or even with the word “non-Israelites” add to text isn’t as narrow as some people try so hard to say. In the KJV New Testament, the Greek words “ethnos” and “ethne” are translated gentiles 93 times, nation(s) 64 times, heathen(s) 5 times, people(s) 2 times and Greek 1 time. Not once is ethnos or ethne translated non-Jew “Jewish” or non-Israelite. In understanding that goy and ethnos refer to the Europeans one will be well on your way toward solving the mystery of the gentiles.

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