We're in so much trouble...

In other news, Citigroup just reported a 74% increase in earnings to $3.8 billion.

Just sitting here shaking my head, chuckling a little. The world is quite a place. These days it outdoes even the most lurid dimestore fiction.

Our current economy system is doomed to fail cause:
Corporations should grow their profits every year, if it stays same, it means that your company is in deep trouble and you need to kick people out. But all should know that you can't earn more profit forever.

Private banks are evil and they should be destroyed. Banks should belong to state, at least that should happen.

Communism should be best, if we ever get it working. No one ever has tried it in full scale. People often say USSR was communist country, but it was socialistic. They still had government, even though communism doesn't need government, its run by people. Let me say this: Communism with unions working as government, sounds good at least for me. People should forget negative ring in communism, I understand people hate it because it was used by dictators and madmens, but its far better system than capitalism.

Just an excellent, well thought out post, OP. You summarized some things many have thought about so many times but never could put all together like you did - really, really nice post.

My take on all of this ows protest bs is simply a question, regardless of who is running that circus. Can anyone name ANY peaceful protest in history that actually changed anything other than the news (print,photo,video) for a couple of nights? Peaceful protests are a love-ey, feel-good-ey thing for everyone involved but unfortunately change does not happen without blood on the street...if you read any history that is. In addition, violent protest only seems to work if many participate. I don't see any of that happening anytime soon in the US or other bankrun nations. As long as we have 4G on our phones and we are still employed or getting a government stipend, why would we care about the protests?

I have read posts on here about people who are thinking right by seeing what is coming but who are trying to escape what is coming by living in the wilderness. I will side with other views that they will find your a$$, and quickly. With only the tech we know about, we know they could have any number of drones patrolling any number of thousands of square miles with FLIR...if you generate heat in any way, they find you from above...and also possibly deal with you from above. All *you* see is black (or white if you are religious).

One post I really agreed with was one that said to get to a third world country that has poverty (as far as westerners would think) but who are not of any current concern to the perpetrators of this. Not to say that those places wouldn't also have the same fate eventually...but at least your fate could be prolonged vs a 1st world nation-state.

If you truly try to think about EVERYTHING involved in what is going on right now (especially what the OP wrote us), it paints a really bleak future for us slaves....gold-carrying or not, guns and ammo carrying or not and even hopeNchange-carrying or not. In the end, we are the masters of our future, we can make a difference even if it means our life and we can accomplish anything as long as we don't fear. The people who made the US didn't fear and they stood up with arms...they even thought that what they learned about revolution and being personally empowered was important enough to include in our founding documents! Those crazy terrorists!

You are right in saying that a blind hope in God will accomplish nothing. It's an understanding of all the things at stake that make everything clear. Nothing humans can do will accomplish anything to change the wicked state of the world. 6,000 years of humans trying to live apart from God's governance has firmly established that clear fact. However once Satan challenged God's authority, God being a just God had to let that fact play out so that it could be shown once and for all. Similarly to how a lawyer would establish a case in a court of law. However he will not let it continue endlessly. It was also loving of him not to just wipe out Adam and Eve and start over otherwise we would not even be here today. All signs now point to the fact that we are now in that end period when he says enough is enough and steps in to clean up this mess. He says clearly in the Bible that the whole world is lying in the power of the "Wicked One" that being Satan the Devil. If that is not more abundantly clear as shown in the conditions of the world and the attitude of the wicked people living in it now, I don't know when it will ever be then. No amount of protesting, mass bank withdrawls, gun hoarding, or whatever you can think of is going to change this. Only when he steps in to end it, will it end. But there is action that we can and must take in order to survive. And that is to prove Satan wrong by showing that there are humans that willingly submit to living by God's standards and laws and by coming to an accurate knowledge of God. This is increasingly more difficult as well these days as the hypocrisy of the Churches mounts evermore, which is also a result of the influence of Satan. The bible also does not present "heaven" as an obcure reward for your good behavior during your time on Earth. It says "that the meek shall inherit the Earth." They will enjoy this earth as God originally purposed us to enjoy it. And he remembers all those who have died living faithfully by his standards and they shall have their reward in full. This is the hope....So the answer lies in finding out why all this is happening and not just a blind hope that humanity will somehow find a way out of this on its own. Oviously that isn't going to happen.

Well said OP.....and I have been in this position myself for a long time...and i think the same in many ways....And i have stated it over in post i have made about the subject of this manufactured world situation that is being inacted upon the people....I have had discussions with people on the methodology of this process as it has happened over and over repeatedly in the past ww1 ww11 and this is definately a lead in to world war 3,

This evil will come to an end though in my eyes....and it will come at the time when a large portion of the world population has been eliminated and we as humans have been and are feeling at our worst the piles of bodies will be everywhere....the world will be cheering the nearing end of the war....as the new world leader will be rearing his ugly head under the guise of being the savior,,,,,we will see weapons that have been used in which we have never ever before seen the likes of....and all this is going to happen very soon and with in a very short period of time.....

Most people will know i am talking about the Anti Christ....which ius a term i will use lightly here....because this is just a evil person who has been behind the scenes oganising this collapse for many years now.....but don't despair.....you see one thing i have faith in.....I have faith in mankind....This is not a God thing ....this is a human thing...and the human race is going to fight back...and it is going to win this time...it is going to overcome these people...and it will do it just at the time when they try to exercise full control....right when they think they are at their pinnacle of sucess......

We the people will not bow down to this people and we are going to have lost so many loved ones we will feel as though we have no choice.....but resistance is not futile....the time for resistance is what is key....we can try to resist now...but as the OP has stated...It will not work...as the Deniers are thick amongst the race...they actually believe what they are being spoonfed......it is like they are on an intraveneous drip of complacency....But the only thing that will change that is after TSHTF and they see the anihilation that has befallen them.

I know this paints a bleak picture....But know this...there is no Savior coming to helps us and lead us into salvation....And when this person shows their ugly head and says those words..I am your Savior and i will lead you to salvtion...you will know the plot is complete and the Anti-Christ has taken his seat on the global stage in his full glory.

That is the time of the false God....he is the one to bring down....he is now exposed....and that my friends is the exact time when humanity is going to need to fight back...right at the time when he thinks he has won...the time when he is actually at his weakest and exposed......so in these words....be strong until then my friends....MANKIND will fight back....and the time will be then....right now people need to learn how to survive in the old ways and learn to live off the grid and to not expose themselves as disidents.

BE STRONG

Please Let Us Be Enlightened.

"Every man dies but not every man knows the Way, the Truth and the Life."

I read every single reply, but it will take me hours to answer them all, I only have "the net" at work, and so I will do my best here.

I posted the only viable solution I can come up with, and I've boggled this for years now. Mass world uprising. It could work, even though it will be bloody, there's a chance, there's your "hope". People don't think it's bad enough everywhere... yet. But since they're watching facebook, and e-mails, this post, and listening in on the phone, not to mention the many many other ways they're keeping tabs.... they will know WELL in advance of "The Global Revolution."

They can be whatever you like, I don't care, let's call them the "endless takers". I don't care if they believe in Satan, Martians, Eugenics, Survival of the Fittest, Humans = Food, whatever people, the endless takers are the problem.

Since it will take lifetimes to really root out all the evil and damage they've done, we have to start somewhere. We could go on and on about every detail until we do nothing. I think every rational person can have it explained to them that the very tip top of the "debt dealers" not only control the money, but the officials/media in most countries because of that.

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws."-- Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

This isn't a joke, or a conspiracy, it's reality and a way of life for some people. They've actually already done it.

So now that this system is failing, and they knew it would, and obviously many people know and knew this with the various great quotes from the members here showing this isn't some new thing, the "system" has obviously planned this disaster, but people hold onto some "hope" that they didn't plan for the results?

They brilliantly trick and coerce nearly every nation on Earth under their "debt system" where they control how much money your country has, who is in power, the media, and on and on, and have destroyed all the nations who didn't go along with the ones who did, GO AMERICA and the UN... but they didn't expect people might one day get too enraged to just let it continue?

Look up the various (cough) non-lethal (cough) systems they have to control massive amounts of people being spread all over the "first world nations". They haven't begun to use them in mass, because people have not risen up in mass. That's just the warm up, hoping it will generate enough fear for the masses to just deal with whatever they say.

They know that's just a temporary slow down. Hell if I know it, I'm certain they do.

I KNOW people are waking up, so do they. I KNOW that once enough people suffer in a country the people will have enough and do something. So do they. The difference now is technology.

What worked for revolutions throughout all of known history worked because they didn't have what is available now, not even talking about the "secret" stuff we could endlessly theorize about. The ragged rebel in the wilderness with his trusty weapon has been the core of many of the old fights.

Those days are over, and those who don't see it will soon enough. People want to eat, and have some "security" for their children, and they will flock to the governments handing out food and "protection" to the ones who submit. Not thinking they are being poisoned by that very same food. They will shoot you in the face no problem.

The rest will starve, at best, or simply be culled. You wont be able to grow food above ground soon enough (or protect it in any case), and the animals to hunt/farm will be gone in the first few weeks as the millions without food, but with plenty of guns, kill each other for food and supplies. Your options will be gone.

That's the Problem Reaction Solution method in action.

By "waiting" until it happens... it's already too late. Hence my lack of Hope.

The Problem is.....

They are going to start wiping out massive amounts of people and blame everyone but themselves.

The reaction is...

Many people will believe the hype, the ones that don't will be called traitors, and that will get deadly fast enough.

The solution is...

One World Government. Trust us, we only want the best for people. Nobody can own guns, gardens, and hey, you need this implant for getting food and passing check points, and on and on.

They've said all this already, in bits and pieces, for years. All the lovely preconditioning.

Good luck all.

As a side note.

I've enjoyed my life more than most, I say that I've had three lifetimes of fun already compared to most. I smile a lot. Everyone knows me as an outgoing happy optimist, and I'm always invited back. I've lived my life loud and proud, and on an income most people would scoff at. I've chosen my life. I've done the things I wanted to do. I'm freakin happy with my life right now. Is it so much to want it to continue? Apparently to those that have the most, the answer is simply.

Yes, you've had it too good for too long.

wow took me ages to read every ones posts.
Would like to thanks you for posting this, as others said
"This is exactly what i was thinking but was unable to put it into words".

I think everyone has made some great points, but i believe the fact of the matter is.
- A violent uprising is the only way. Not towards each other but the ones who support the evil deeds.

I am not for a violence but believe its the only way, we are not going to get anywhere shouting "SHAME, SHAME".

I am in a constant cycle of living week by week, earning just enough to support going to work the next week.
Quite frankly i am tired and ashamed of what we/they have turned the world into.
I do not need a nice car, or a fancy house to be happy. I just want to live my life,
walking around mother earth, taking and giving, living in oneness with everything/one.

All i have to say is, i don't want change, i NEED change, not for just me, but for everyone.

THE WORLD NEEDS CHANGE!
and i will fight for this right.

Yes i will DIE for this RIGHT!
We need to come together and work for this.
It will not be pleasant and may not work.
But i refuse to just sit here in this never ending cycle of gloom! doing nothing!!!!

I agree with the OP's sentiment: we have all become a bit confused or compromised by our current system, and that's part of the reason it has become such an effective form of social control. Even those of us who want to do good (which I think is many) can not properly express it, because we've had our language hijacked by consumerism and Public Relations lies.

I've seen Western society described as 'inverted totalitarianism', where everyone has the freedom to do what they want, but no one really knows how to fix anything because we've had our minds domesticated.

And again, I agree that we are radically outgunned by the forces which act against the best interests of the many - they are more wealthy, more ruthless and have connections which can hook into every parts of our lives. You can not simply extract that via revolution, because the ideologies and lies are still stuck in our heads after.

If we want to reduce the amount of power these people have, the best way is by introducing something new which they can not hook into. Some kind of system that makes lies about important things impossible. If these people can't lie and misdirect and hide their worst actions, then their power automatically fades. They're so bloated and slow, they probably would not notice it was happening under them until it was too late.

I like the idea of some kind of self created daemon which would watch over you, which you could always trust and would always tell you if you're being lied to, or if you are lying to yourself. That might actually be technologically possible.

14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

15To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

16These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

Jude

Look up, lift up Your heads.

Great thread. I agree with most of it. Let me add to your list of criticisms - 'democracy'! It upsets me that so many people still believe that America can be reclaimed by Ron Paul, or Britain by the UKIP party or whatever. NO!!! Whilst I admire those few good men in politics, they don't stand a chance in a system set up by the enemies of liberty. Any successes are an illusion, to give false hope. And if - just IF - Ron Paul, for example, got really far in the game, there's already a bullet and a casket with his name on them.

Our only hope is to detach from the system and become self-sufficient. The same people who enslave us through debt have been actively making the human race dependent on them for a very long time (see my recent thread, linked in my signature). We need to (re)learn how to survive without ANYTHING they provide.

And I hate to say it, but this stuff about non-violence is rubbish. The overall enslaving ideology must be beaten through enlightenment, not bloodshed. However, that ideology will send minions who will literally attack and suppress and I'll be damned if anyone's going to tell me that fighting them is the wrong way to do things.

I have never been more sad to be a human. I have never said, EVER... this phrase, but after a lifetime of watching and being involved, I have to say I finally agree with my wife. We're doomed. Too little, too late. People are too selfish to care, or too deluded to do what is ACTUALLY required to save us. The world is full of people just worried about "their family" when we're all part of the one true family, Humanity as a whole. Being divided into oblivion killed us. Trusting people who say one thing, and do another, and STILL don't get in trouble, has doomed us. Becoming so foolish as to believe in rules that only the masses follow, doomed us. Believing scientists who have been paid off, has doomed us. In days, maybe weeks, we will have more to do than type.

Great post. Lay it out there. First, I stopped early to reply, then I held out to finish.
So, from there, I found the last 2 thoughts.
1.You finally agree with your living partner of life? after how long? and from there........ you go on..... the world.
2. Now you have plugged us into "one true family"..... Humanity.
3. I am back to 1 person.... Your wife has not been caught, so now we as humanity are all doomed?
4. Scientists?

I got really lost.... please help.... or call help..... something.

Baka.

Originally posted by bakadesu

Great post. Lay it out there. First, I stopped early to reply, then I held out to finish.
So, from there, I found the last 2 thoughts.
1.You finally agree with your living partner of life? after how long? and from there........ you go on..... the world.
2. Now you have plugged us into "one true family"..... Humanity.
3. I am back to 1 person.... Your wife has not been caught, so now we as humanity are all doomed?
4. Scientists?

I got really lost.... please help.... or call help..... something.

Baka.

1. We've been together for 25 years, she's a cynic, but someone who promotes and does good.
2. Yes, humans. We're all one big stupid family.
3. I tried to figure out what you meant. Umm.. what? I agree with my wife and we're doomed, but I don't think that's related.
4. Scientists, the ones who say Vaccines are good for you, and so is Fluoride, and Aspartame, and immunization shots with mercury for babies, the ones who say it's great to spray poison on people to help the Gulf, and the ones who say "don't worry about radiation, it may actually be good for you", and on and on and on.

Originally posted by bakadesu

I have never been more sad to be a human. I have never said, EVER... this phrase, but after a lifetime of watching and being involved, I have to say I finally agree with my wife. We're doomed. Too little, too late. People are too selfish to care, or too deluded to do what is ACTUALLY required to save us. The world is full of people just worried about "their family" when we're all part of the one true family, Humanity as a whole. Being divided into oblivion killed us. Trusting people who say one thing, and do another, and STILL don't get in trouble, has doomed us. Becoming so foolish as to believe in rules that only the masses follow, doomed us. Believing scientists who have been paid off, has doomed us. In days, maybe weeks, we will have more to do than type.

Great post. Lay it out there. First, I stopped early to reply, then I held out to finish.
So, from there, I found the last 2 thoughts.
1.You finally agree with your living partner of life? after how long? and from there........ you go on..... the world.
2. Now you have plugged us into "one true family"..... Humanity.
3. I am back to 1 person.... Your wife has not been caught, so now we as humanity are all doomed?
4. Scientists?

I got really lost.... please help.... or call help..... something.

Baka.

His post made way more sense than yours, dude.

Protesters protest.That's all they can do.What do you suggest they do,cause some kind of violence?What can they do?Instead of saying why aren't they doing anything maybe you should be giving them suggestions to what they can do.

To me it seems like they want people to get mad to the point where they cause violence so the government can force new laws!

Nobody is going to do anything until something pulls them of out of their comfortable life styles.If America was a worn torn country then people might actually do something like the people who live it every day.Of course there would be no war if people didn't invade.Why must countries fight against one another?

What can people do?Make citizens arrests by providing proof to the police or FBI..(stay away from the CIA)

I mean they must be protesting because they have proof of their accusations..right?

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Here's what I'm saying.

There are people killing you, and everyone, slowly but surely right now. They're about to turn that kettle up to boil.

The only way OWS is going to cause change is when the police get insanely violent, or send infiltrators into the OWS to start violence against the police, which will result in the same violence.

We live in a world were authority rules with violence, and now has the technology to do things only "gods" could do in the good ole days (wipe out whole cities, decimate crops, etc.)

They don't care one whit about peace, only power.

That sum it up? You can do the math there.

I like the idea of some kind of self created daemon which would watch over you, which you could always trust and would always tell you if you're being lied to, or if you are lying to yourself. That might actually be technologically possible.

Not sure of which Daemon you were speaking of, but your post made more sense to me than his dood.

thejlxc, the end fell apart for me, all I am saying.... It got more personal.

baka.

Originally posted by thejlxc
reply to post by GodIsPissed

 

Here's what I'm saying.

There are people killing you, and everyone, slowly but surely right now. They're about to turn that kettle up to boil.

The only way OWS is going to cause change is when the police get insanely violent, or send infiltrators into the OWS to start violence against the police, which will result in the same violence.

We live in a world were authority rules with violence, and now has the technology to do things only "gods" could do in the good ole days (wipe out whole cities, decimate crops, etc.)

They don't care one whit about peace, only power.

That sum it up? You can do the math there.

They only want what they don't have.

www.chick.com...

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Don't feel bad man! The end is falling apart for everyone!