Controversial Therapy for Pre-Teen Transgender Patient Raises Questions

reply to post by freakjive


Sadly this is no different then parents "forcing" religion upon their children. This should not be acceptable at such a young age when a child's mind can be so easily persuaded and swayed. I'm not saying the parents forced him to believe this, but 1+1 does equal two.

If I was raised by a lesbian couple, I'd want to be a girl, too.

This kid's first challenge is his own parents.

That's the way it is with most kids.

But people who want to be a different gender than specified by their body have been around for a long time, and they always seem to make it through somehow.

This case is complicated by the kid's apparent threat to disfigure himself in order to "get what he wants."

And that brings us to the second challenge: Understanding ourselves.

If there is anything that the would-be controllers of this world really do not want us to do, it would be to understand ourselves. Because if we did, their game would be over. They and their bizarre and suicidal ideas would be laughed out of their positions of power and influence. People would feel free to think for themselves. Right now, almost all of us rely on "experts" to understand why a kid with a boy body would insist he was a girl, why women fall in love with each other, why men fall in love with each other, and even why "ordinary" people fall in love with each other.

As long as the illusion can be maintained that it's all a big mystery, and that we need "experts" to tell us what to do, we will have problems like this one.

This is child abuse.

Remove that child.

When people are conflicted about their own gender, it means our society has messed-up gender stereotypes. A person may feel like they ought to be the opposite sex, because they don't fit the stereotypes assigned to the gender which they are.

The stereotypes are wrong, your genitalia (determined by your chromosomes) is not.

Well, I've heard of transgendered kids trying to commit suicide when their parents tried to force the issue of them sticking with their chromosomal gender. If they were forcing this, the kid would likely be the same way because he was a boy and they were forcing him to be a girl.

I'd rather let my boy wear a dress than have him trying to kill himself.

And, honestly, I care more about my kids being polite, intelligent, and having a moral compass than I do about what they're wearing.

reply to post by l_e_cox


Well of course that's not true. You would be the same person you are now, but probably minus the prejudice.

I suspect these parents are especially able to cope with this particular issue their son is facing because they won't deal with this in either the traditional - certificated and christed a girl you stay a , or the immediate "Ah! we fully understand and or course you change."

If the attached pictures on the OP are the child in question, then to my mind that little one is a girl and looks 100% happy as a girl.

We had a programme on sex change and the operations involved and one particular child here in the UK was on this hormone delaying process because the child was making up its mind at apparently this is a crucial time in human development, the onset of puberty.

Isn't it about time we accepted the obvious that natures has a means of controlling this planet and above all else, our population. Being over 60 I have never seen no many people not oriented to hetrosexuality. I remember some experiment carried out by putting rats into a large, but enclosed box. They proceeded to breed and breed, then suddenly they proceeded to produce homosexual rats. The conclusion, though probably very unpopular at the time, was that some cause in nature recognized a problem and dealt with it through homosexuality. Its only a thought. I wish the child here well and I very much doubt that child has been unnecessarily influenced by the parents. I think their action is unselfish and in the best interests of the child. That kid looks very happy.

Originally posted by freakjive

Controversial Therapy for Pre-Teen Transgender Patient Raises Questions

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A lesbian couple in California who say their 11-year-old son Tommy who wants to be a girl named Tammy are giving their child hormone blockers that delay the onset of puberty -- so that he can have more time that he can have more time to decide if he wants to change his gender.

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Originally posted by freakjive

Originally posted by Annee
Yes - actually it is old enough.

Says you... (and I'm not looking to bash your opinion either) but I disagree personally.

Every Transgendered person I know, and I know quite a few, have all said they've felt being in the wrong body since before then even hit 10 years of age. Some felt it as soon as they entered school.

Regardless, I'll take an individuals sentiments and desires over someone else whose opinion on someones choice is irrelevant.

NOTE: Ive only read the first couple posts

Im going to take off my shoes and stay a while...

Oh yeah I should prolly say somthing shouln't I?

Well As most of you know, Im gay, and I think this is one of the most stupid things I have heard of. I do think that sometimes the big man gets it wrong and puts a woman in a mans body. That is my personal opinion, however, I think you need to take what you get and make the best of it, and by no means is this kid going to make the best of his life by delaying puberty and pretending he is somthing he isn't.

I'm all for people making there own choices in life. But in this case i'm not to sure the kid is old enough to make a life altering decision. Let the kid live and be a kid when he's 16 if he still wants to be a girl fine.

This is why homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to raise children. I wouldn't be surprised if back in college the "mothers" were members of a feminist hate cult..

One couple does not represent our whole. I know for a fact I would never do this to my kids and many homosexual families are less dysfunctional than heterosexual families. Look up: gay family values on youtube. It is a video series about a real life homosexual family.

Also. if your trying to say that gay parents = gay kids, you are wrong. Studies have shown that kids from gay parents are not always gay, and have no more chance of being gay than heterosexual families, however they have proven that you are more likely to commit suicide and/or repress the homosexual feelings in a heterosexual family.

Oh and one more thing,
I wouldn't be surprised if your in the christian hate cult...
Yes i did, Yes I did, sombody please tell me who the F I is.....

Originally posted by l_e_cox
If I was raised by a lesbian couple, I'd want to be a girl, too.

This kid's first challenge is his own parents.

That's the way it is with most kids.

Researches would disagree with you Mrs. Lecox.
Also, There are no rulers of the world. Stop trying to blame our faults on some puppeteer, because he's on lunch break.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


I don't think that loading the kid up with harmful hormone blockers is the best thing to do. Yes, its good the parents are giving the child the right to choose but the fact that the parents are lesbian does play an effect on the child's choice. The kid is still to young to decide seeing one of his main influences in life is his parents.

This kid doesn't need hormone blockers to help with his transgender decision that's just ridiculous, all this child needs is time to see how he wants to live his live.

reply to post by dankety


I agree, kids that age should not be thinking about sex, or sexuality, at all really.

I think the only reason they are doing this is because

1.They are a lesbian couple

2.Since they are gay, you "assume" they had run into issues about gender growing up, so they have to sensationalize words that come out of their sons mouth that has to do with gender.

3.They implanted this idea in their child's head.

My other input : This kid isn't even in 8th grade. Its kind of like this...He wants the super sugary cereal at the grocery store, his parents won't let him get it, and they know he wont like it anyway. He jumps up and down and claims he knows what he wants. They get the cereal, he eats it, and he vomits.

Also, can someone find us some stories like this that don't involve homosexuals?

Originally posted by Vandettas
I think the only reason they are doing this is because

1.They are a lesbian couple

2.Since they are gay, you "assume" they had run into issues about gender growing up, so they have to sensationalize words that come out of their sons mouth that has to do with gender.

3.They implanted this idea in their child's head.

My other input : This kid isn't even in 8th grade. Its kind of like this...He wants the super sugary cereal at the grocery store, his parents won't let him get it, and they know he wont like it anyway. He jumps up and down and claims he knows what he wants. They get the cereal, he eats it, and he vomits.

You see where I'm going with this? Bye.

Sure, YOU think, but many MANY researchers are going to disagree with you.
Also, Im gay and I do not "Assume" I had issues with gender growing up, as I have NEVER tried to be "Girly" just as I have never been trying to be "Manly" I feel that if it was not for the social gender casting from a early age, Many people would be bisexual, but SO many people are concerned about "omg am I man enough?" or "omg am I woman enough?" We need to see beyond the lines of sex. For example, I have a slight unhealthy obsession with lady gaga. However, even though I am gay, I do not carry a purse, I do not do my nails, I do not give a **** about fashion, and I do not talk in a really high pitched voice.

reply to post by freakjive


I agree 100% in this case. There are cases where a child is aware at a very early age that something is not right. But this "family" is the epitome of dysfunctional. What would be the bet that the young man, "turned" female, will then also be a lesbian? Would that then be his natural inclination coming forth, or is the whole endocrine / sexual system a complete and total mess?

reply to post by Vandettas


This is very possible, but it doesn't reflect on all gay couples that adopt. If that is really what is going on it's no different then the awful straight couples that neglect their children. It's just a newer child abuse phenomenon and if that isn't what's going on it will happen eventually, but again it doesn't reflect on all gay parents.

If they aren't doing anything wrong they need to be very careful and conscious of their actions because bigots will be shouting their heads off saying exactly what you said is in fact happening. Actually a few people in this thread have already said that.

Originally posted by korathin

This is why homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to raise children. I wouldn't be surprised if back in college the "mothers" were members of a feminist hate cult..

Yeah, sure.. because it's only gay parents that do this sort of thing.

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