What do you think will happen if Israel launches an attack on Iran?

Originally posted by TMJ1972
imho israel is totally insignificant.
if its not for the size of their land, if its not for the power of their military then its most because
for the way they respect other ethnics.

Respect other ethincs .... ahhh, yes because respect for ethnic and religious minorities is certainly a virtue held in high esteem among their Arab and Persian neighbors ... just ask the Armenians, Kurds, Coptics, Yezidi, and Assyrians. Ethic tolerance and respect is certainly something seen in the dominant Arab, Turkmen and Persian populations to be sure.

In my opinion, everyone will loose. If Israel attacked Iran, Iran would retaliate without hesitation. Both lands would suffer much loss of life and infrastructure. The question is who would join and which side would they take? If Iran attacked first then the US would be there in a heartbeat but if Israel was the instigator the I think the US would hesitate assuming they have any common sense left.

Some countries/groups would be in the conflict right away; Hamas (obviously), Hezbollah, Syria (?), maybe even Turkey. Side Note - conflict in Syria aimed at reducing risk to Israel? Iraq and Afganistan have enough of their own problems. I think a couple countries that would be closely observing would be Saudi Arabia and Egypt. If they were to get drawn in it would be hard to figure which side they'd take. The Saudi's would not benefit from any war but if Iran were brought to their knees they would capitalize by being the only Islamic powerhouse in the area. The current state of Egypt suggests they would be against Israel but that doesn't mean they'd want to go to war.

If the US plays an active role then the whole situation escalates... a lot. Likely the UK, other 'western' NATO countries and possibly Canada would get involved. And to follow suit, Russia and China would likely be forced to play ball.

The US is playing a dangerous game with these Iran accusations. True or not they had the choice of dealing with it under the radar but instead they have chosen to push this unbelievably hard through the media and the international community. Question: who do you consider the one who starts the fight - the one who mouths off first or the one who throws the first punch?

Attack who?Attack what?Attack why?

reply to post by SirMike

just ask the Armenians, Kurds, Coptics, Yezidi, and Assyrians.

How about we ask the Palestinians?

Boy, do they ever have a story to tell you...

Not that you would listen. Your mind is already made up.

I forgot to say something on topic...go Iran

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by SirMike

 

just ask the Armenians, Kurds, Coptics, Yezidi, and Assyrians.

How about we ask the Palestinians?

Boy, do they ever have a story to tell you...

Not that you would listen. Your mind is already made up.

I forgot to say something on topic...go Iran

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OMG ... you are right ... I totally forgot about Palestinians

i think it depends on how many governments are overthrown before then (i.e. egypt, libya, syria, etc).

although i still think it has WW3 potential due to pakistan and russia (and china for that matter). its a sticky situation thats for sure

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


I think that if they attack Iran all of Israels enemies will come against it. Syria will get involved and Israel will launch a nuclear attack destroying Demascus never to be inhabited again. Then all enemies surrounding Israel will attack in a massive attack...Russia, Iran, Turkey, Egypt, etc. Israel will destroy all of their enemies and will be cleaning up body parts for 7 months and weapons for 7 years. Then there will possibly be an nuclear attack by North Korea, not sure where. But this will make mankind think they are on the brink of extinction so they will agree to a 7 year peace treaty signed by the antichrist....they won't realize it is the antichrist though.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


-Israel will use its new daisy cutter bombs supplied by the USA to strke nuclear infrastructure and smaller ordinance to attack Revolutionary Guard barracks and offices.

-No matter how successful or not the attacks are, Iran retaliates by limited naval warfare, most importantly blocking the Gulf of Hormuz. Many missles will be launched to Israel and US interests in the Gulf area. Iranian conventional force retalitation will be limited. They have no direct means to assault Israel proper.

-Irans proxy forces Hezzbollah, and the Palestinian Hamas will attack. Eqypt, up until recently would have sat out, but now will join Iran and attack Israel as well, or in the very least will refuse to provide any support.

-Syria attacks

-Turkey will attack Syria conventionally

-The US, under retaliatory attack from Iran, will in turn mobilize and begin a massive bombing campaign against Iran and Syria, and possibly Eqypt if they join in. Amphibious special ops units will land in Iran.

-The war progresses. NATO itself may or may not mobilize depending on the level of hostilities.

-If Iran or Syria use chemical or biological weaponry or appear to be gaining the upper hand, Israel will retaliate using at first tactical nuclear strikes on enemy forces, and if that fails, perhaps a strategic strike against Damascus or Tehran to show their resolve. Any use of nuclear weaponry will bring China and perhaps Russia into the fray, most likely as "peacekeepers". But of course they will be securing their own oil interests. Russia is quite self-sufficient in oil due to their Baku assets, but China desperately needs Irans oil.

-One side gains the upper hand. If Israel, im not sure how it will pan out. If Iran/Syria, and Tel Aviv appears to be in danger of falling, i worry of a massive nuclear strike against Arab capitals. This will definately bring China and Russia in, undoubtedly ushering in world war three.

reply to post by kwell

Israel will destroy all of their enemies and will be cleaning up body parts for 7 months and weapons for 7 years.

Please stop bringing in christian eschatology into this thread.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


You are saying my opinion is not welcome here. Sorry but no, this is a discussion board.

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
Here is what I think might happen....

Israel attacks Iran. Maybe takes out a few targets... with incredible precision.

Then a badly wounded Iran would let go of ALL excuses to show restraint and will take on and crush Israel, once and for all... while the regions surrounding Israel join in for the fireworks.

I can tell you most assuredly that this will not happen. How can I be so sure? Because Israel is ALREADY attacking Iran!! They don't do it the old-fashioned way by overtly firing missiles, they are much more covert. If you're not aware of Stuxnet then Google it, this is the new form of Israel's attacks. Electronic warfare is nearly impossible to track, and it's highly effective. Israel also makes good use of assassins, they've routinely been killing off Iranian scientists for years. Israel will never launch a preemptive attack by air, they don't need to. If someone strike them in such a way then they would retaliate in the same manner, but they will never initiate such an attack themselves.

reply to post by kwell

You are saying my opinion is not welcome here. Sorry but no, this is a discussion board.

Well ok, fine then.
But if you insist on using the bible, then please explain the parts which teach that Israel has been gathered... only for punishment.

Yes, its there in the bible.

I can just as well connect that to an Israeli defeat, you know.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


Which scripture are you referring to?

In my opinion what ever China and Russia do will determine what all the other players such as Syria, Turkey, and Egypt do. I am pretty sure that Iran has a few tricks up it's sleeve but they will need to be careful.

A strong Iranian response is exactly what Israel and the USA wants. It will help them get justification for the preemptive strike., and further strikes in the public eye. We can already see what is going on recently with a full scale smear campaign against Iran.

If Iran shuts down the strait, then oil goes up. The people who run things love it when oil goes up.

I do think that a strike on Iran will cause the whole world to stand on it's toes. Russia and China will probably make sure this does not happen. The crazies in Washington and Tel-Aviv would have attacked Iran by now if the Chinese or Russians would allow them to.

In all reality anything can happen. I am not much of a military strategist so my guess probably isn't that accurate. I honestly can't see any of this going down without Russia's or China's approval.

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
Here is what I think might happen....

Israel attacks Iran. Maybe takes out a few targets... with incredible precision.

Then a badly wounded Iran would let go of ALL excuses to show restraint and will take on and crush Israel, once and for all... while the regions surrounding Israel join in for the fireworks.

Iran and its 70 million + population will absorb all damage... despite massive loss of life...and will carry on, even despite parts of it being turned into radio active wastelands.

Israel and its (approx) 8 millon population coming under fire by a ticked off muslim neighbourhood.... well... I dont know....really...

I believe, a war between Israel and Iran will be an extremely short event....it will NOT be a long drawn out war for anybody else to be involved.

I also believe that Israels western allies, might display the common sense to stay out of a conflict started by Israel...

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Easy. HOPEFULLY we get rid of two disgusting nations in one swoop. These people on both sides Israel and Iran are just primitive animals. No sympathy for either.

America made up this story and now want Israel to go to war with Iran. I say they both don't help themselves and deserve whats coming.

reply to post by kwell

Which scripture are you referring to?

Ezekiel 22:19-22

"Yea, I will gather you, and blow upon you in the fire of my wrath, and ye shall be melted in the midst therof. "
(read the link in my sig)

So, why cant someone quote that bit from the bible to "prove" that the bible teaches of Israels final punishment?

Then, there is also that bit about Israel taken back to egypt tp be slaves.
So, when do you suppose that will happen?

Or do you believe that only the good bits about Israel will come true?

Israel is pure evil

So much so that they do not have to win to win.

If they just create more evil they feel they win.

Israel has a death-wish. If it were just suicide then that would be fine but it is murder / suicide that they are interested in.

At this point Israel is losing the demographic and public relations war and it's back is up agains the wall.

Israel wants to ethnically-cleanse the last of the Palestinians and wants to use an attack on Iran as an excuse.

As much as I would like Israel to be a memory I don't think Pakistan, Russia and China will come to the aid of Iran but they should.

The US is controlled by Zionist idiots.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


I believe we are entering into the 7 years of tribulation a time know as Jacob's trouble...a time of trouble for the Jews. You only asked what do I think will happen if Israel attacks Iran. I know that the Ezekial war has to start soon if we are at the beginning of the tribulation. The Bible tells us that God defends Israel in that war. The tribulation is not going to be a good time for anyone.

As for my North Korea comment, I am just guessing because I read the enemies plans.

"A hair-raising nuclear confrontation in Korea may, towards the end of the period, threaten man's very survival." [Peter Lemesurier, "The Armageddon Script", p. 223, 1981; NOTE: Lemesurier is a major New World Order author]

Think how the political map of the world will change if we have a Palestinian state,a Palestinian state could give way to many claims,political, territorial,organized army,borders,embassies,constitution,parliament, media,infrastructure,that will be the real defeat of the Israeli sate!!!

My take on things - If Israel strikes, Iran,Hizbollah and Hams will retaliate with ,massive missile attacks. Israel will answer with air/missile strikes on Iran and invade Lebanon/Gaza. Oil prices will jump up, Israel will loose lots of diplomatic points and will be blamed for the situation world wide. At which point UN will try to stop the mess.
So i do not see why Israel should strike Iran.
Iranians are working on nuclear weapons. Iranian leaders are religious fanatics. Israel is not the only country in the region worried by nuclear program of Iran - count Egypt and Saudi Arabia in. But the cost of the strike will not justify the result, since Russia will simply help to rebuild the program and Israel will loose political strength and people. For another decade without Iranian nuke.