IRAN WAR : Less then 2 weeks ahead .. WW3 is at the door... List of facts pointing to it

Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli

Originally posted by mysterioustranger
Ariel Sharon: "We, the Jewish People, Control America, and The Americans Know it"!

Do you have a source for this, other than Palestinian propagandists and neo-Nazis?

I'll save you some time. No, you don't.

Sharon's Infamous Comment -
"We Control America"

During an argument between the Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, Peres said that Isralis' policies of continued violence might "turn the US against us".

To this Sharon retorted:

"EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME AMERICANS WILL DO THIS AND WILL DO THAT. I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING VERY CLEAR: DON'T WORRY ABOUT AMERICAN PRESSURE ON ISRAEL;

WE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE, CONTROL AMERICA. AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT."

-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001

Won't happen, this kind of crap has been floating around the "Interwebs" since I can't remember and personally if it does eventually happen then pffffft I'm over it it.

Your'e forgetting times are different, much more tense and much more to gain.
TPTB have a plan, they always plan ahead, and a major conflict Is that plan.
It will take away the focus of the Economy and how bad living conditions actually are, make war with Iran and you make a new enemy for the masses to focus on rather then their own Goverment.

Ofcourse people like us and others will hate them even more for It but as long as the majority don't It doesn't matter.

If the USA were going to invade then they would have done so a few years ago.

And they certainly wouldn't initiate a nuclear conflict if they ever do invade; they are well aware of the possible implications of such actions and have no intention of opening that can of worms.

As things stand as they are it would be political suicide for any British political party to support such an action and there is no chance of UK involvement in any military action.

The Iran invasion was planned a long time ago
at least since 2003

but it was delayed a few time for strategic reasons
not to loose the complete face by attacking Iran to fast
they would had loose many allies

but now .. me think
those delays are finished .. no more delays
the press release about the plot (another fabrication)
is the proof of that

now it is very serious

reply to post by Zakka


Contrary to popular belief people simply aren't as stupid and naive as they were and there is absolutely no way the British people would stand for more British soldiers being sent to die in another foreign land for something that has absolutely nothing to do with us at all and for which we stand to gain very, very little.

If Cameron authorised such action then Clegg would have no option but to pull out of The Coalition resulting in another General Election.
There is little chance Cameron would win an overall majority and as remarkable as it seemed a year or so ago Labour could possibly form a new government.

As I said before; political suicide.
Cameron has bigger fish to fry; like the systematic dismantling of all that is good about Britain and his determination to tranform this country into something resembling a Victorian like society.

reply to post by Freeborn


What makes you think Britain will get Involved?
The U.S might not even have to lift a finger In terms of Military action, they can finance and suply Israel.

reply to post by FurvusRexCaeli


Yes. Now you have it thanks to a faster ATS'er than I. The ENTIRE quote he made was quite direct. I thought not to post all of it, but all of it is valid and spoken in print by Mr. Sharon.

It is easy even to search for. How'd you think others found it? You didnt. Yet it exists.

Two more indicators of war are, the $60 billion in arms Sales to Saudi Arabia and Press TV taken off air.

Another costly war to get involved with.Over an attempt on a Saudi ambassador? I believe that they will have to come up with a better excuse than that.If they expect any public support.And if so would probably be the last nail for the economic collapse.

reply to post by Freeborn


While I really do agree with you, we do live in a landscape that is similar to one that could (historically speaking) lead us into a major war.. especially when the top dog has such a muddled and confused foreign policy, which I believe opens the door to opportunistic neighbour bashing (as in this case)

The anti-war sentiments where also very strong in Britain (and elsewhere) in the lead up to WW2, the landscapes are fairly similar and I honestly feel that the numpties in charge would take us to war rather than attempt to deal with the consequences of the failed political and economic systems that surround us.

However we are no where near having the right catalyst that could either silence the antiwar crowd or leave people feeling they have no other choice but to fight.. such a threat simply doesn't exist at the moment, and I hope it never does, but I do recognise trouble when it is brewing.. this opportunistic neighbour bashing is deeply worrying.

Additionally, there is a lot written on this subject...and not all (Ill give you that some is)...written by propagandanists and "neo-nazi's".

The Israeli leaders themselves and some politicians in America over the years have made some very strong "Israel runs America" statements. Quite interesting that they were so bold about admitting it, and some detailed interpretations exist.

Provide the contrary to us: you cant...because they made them.

reply to post by Zakka


That's what I said - the UK will not get involved - have you actually read my posts?

I don't think anyone will 'get involved' to be honest as it's not going to happen - at least not for the forseeable future.

reply to post by thoughtsfull


I honestly think the only way the UK will become involved in another all out military war with another nation would be if the UK or any of it's dependancies or Commonwealth allies were directly threatened. And possibly if the US / NATO / EU were threatened.

reply to post by Ben81

Rense.com? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. There's a reliable source. Yeah, I bet Jeff Rense was standing right next to Ariel Sharon when Sharon said it. Oh man, that's rich. Rense.com.

When someone asks you for the source of a quote, they don't mean, "Which conspiracy web site did you cut and paste that from?" Any fool can set up a web site and fabricate quotes all day. Find an actual source--a recording, an official publication, something peer reviewed, a named reporter in a generally reputable publication, etc. And find the original, not something that's been rehosted so many times no one knows where it came from.

Here is a very early version of the story, which some believe may be the archetype. I searched Google Groups and couldn't find any versions of the story before the October 3, 2001, so I agree that this is the archetype or contemporaneous with it. The source purports to be the Islamic Association of Palestine, a Hamas front group. Also note that it claims to quote an Israeli radio station, but the IAP was located in Illinois, where I don't think they get Israeli radio stations. And look at the generally poor writing--you can see this is not from a professional news bureau. So here is your source: a bunch of terrorist fundraisers from the greater Chicago area.

mysterioustranger said

Yes. Now you have it thanks to a faster ATS'er than I. The ENTIRE quote he made was quite direct. I thought not to post all of it, but all of it is valid and spoken in print by Mr. Sharon.

It is easy even to search for. How'd you think others found it? You didnt. Yet it exists.

So you're saying your source was Rense.com, too? Stay away from that web site, it's rotting your brain.

The Israeli leaders themselves and some politicians in America over the years have made some very strong "Israel runs America" statements. Quite interesting that they were so bold about admitting it, and some detailed interpretations exist.

Provide the contrary to us: you cant...because they made them.

No, that's not how it works. When you make a claim, you have to support it. You don't put the onus on your interlocutor. You can't just say, "Hey, this is so, prove me wrong!" It just doesn't work. Watch:

A wish-granting unicorn lives in Oprah Winfrey's butt. Prove the contrary: you can't, because it does.

You see how that doesn't convince anyone of anything? At this point, given how badly your alleged Sharon quote was shot down, I honestly think Oprah's butt unicorn is more likely than anything you would say about Israel.

reply to post by FurvusRexCaeli


I dont need Ariel Sharon to let me know who run America .. ATCHOUMAIPAC
who runs the congress ? 3/4 agree with zionist ideology
who runs hollywood ?
who runs most MSM in america ?
who runs COKE?

so yes .. America are run by jews especially zionist jew
we all know that

the question is how in hell did they manage to TROJAN HORSE the most powerfull country in the world ?
how come now most leader and pdg in america are run by jews
that dont have american interest first in their priority list

reply to post by Ben81

Starred because we all know it's true most actors that released a movie last year are as you claim. I find it hard to believe that those in congress don't have an agenda. I feel like starting my own army and marching to Downing St and declaring war in the name of freedom. But it'll never happen people are too busy with there petty none meaning lives. Us "Conspiracy Nuts" have been saying stuff for years, you know what?? Most of it either came true or was stated as fact in subliminal ways.

Originally posted by myselfaswell
Then there is the money for war. Exactly where is that going to come from ? Iran is only a threat to Israel not the US there is no threat either militarily or financially to the US.

Cheers

I think you are overlooking the Straights of Hormuz. Iran has threatened to close it off in the past as well as in the present if military action were to break out.

reply to post by Xcathdra


Well its the only pressure they can do
its better defending that way then making real nukes
and launch it on civilians cities like US did and is about to do again with Israel

Iran is to big to be ground controlled
Bunker buster and missile will not be enought in a futur war
the US has 6000 nukes in reserver .. Israel have apx 300
im sure they have planned to use them on someone someday (Iran-Russia-China)

all those nukes were builded just for WORLD WAR 3
or an alien invasion to nuke space ships in space

Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by thoughtsfull

 

I honestly think the only way the UK will become involved in another all out military war with another nation would be if the UK or any of it's dependancies or Commonwealth allies were directly threatened. And possibly if the US / NATO / EU were threatened.

France / UK / Canada / USA / Israel / Saudi

all the same
they will attack Iran like they did on Lybia

Lybia was a practice target before the big one

The attack on Iran has nothing to do with Iran.


While Europe and the US economies have stopped China's still been booming.

With the industry\technology that Europe\US gave China......they have to be knocked back to the stone age or they will surpass us technologically very soon.

Iran is one of their fuel sources. To slow down China......turn off their energy supply.

THAT is what the attack on Iran will be all about. The Chinese have 1 carrier battle group they are practicing with and they've laid the hulls for many more aircraft carriers they are about done with.

The attack on Iran is about China. Nothing else.