Europe to destroy traditional family and sexual identity

reply to post by AnonymousFem


They weren't bullied though because they were the children of a hetro couple though were they?! which will certainly be the case with children who have been adopted by homo couples.

My feelings are that as far as raising children, my biggest issue is that if nature intended same sex couples to have and raise children, why not give both sex the ability to have children? I believe that a man and a woman has a child and raises a child as, in theory, it gives the child the balance during upbringing that he/she needs for adult life. In particular the understanding of both male and female genders. I am a firm believer in balance being the way of all things, of life in this universe and my personal belief is that I just don't believe the balance can be there with same sex parents. I know that in this day and age with so many single parent families and in many cases one parent totally out of the picture, this throws it out and I'm sure many of these kids grow up fine, but many also don't. Whether that has more to do with the environment that they live in or the absence of a specific gender role model, I really can't tell, may be a bit of both.
I'm not saying that they can't be good parents, I'm just questioning the impact on the child in later life, teenage years and onwards. I have no doubt that they would show the same, in many cases much more, love for the child than some male and female couples, single parent families etc but as I said, my concern is the impact on the child.
I have nothing against homosexuality, but on this issue I feel that there may be too much emotion behind the decision and behind the support. Yes homosexuality has been around for centuries, yes animals display it (although as a form of dominance more so than what we would label being homosexual), that is not the issue. The issue is bringing a life in to the equation whose parents are of the same sex. At this stage, none of us can really tell whether the impact will be positive, negative or a little of both. I like to think with all balance, it will be a little of both, but as you throw the balance out by having same sex parents, who knows?
As for this particular topic, I thought this went out with Labour! Are they going to add Step Parents as Parent 3 & 4? However, living in the UK, I'm used to stuff like this.

Originally posted by AnonymousFem
reply to post by ShortMemory

 

Nope not a joke, about high time, kids with a two mothers or two fathers get the same rights as every other Couple in the UK to have both their parents on their Passports. Takes away the discrimination against gay couples. You do not have to agree with it. It is happening wither people agree with it or not. And it is not Political Correctness as you put it.

edit on 12-10-2011 by AnonymousFem because: (no reason given)

There is no such thing as two mothers and two fathers. one mother can give birth to one child and one father fertilizes the egg for that child hence one mother one father. Two mothers no matter how hard they try cannot procreate from their own flesh, nor can two fathers procreate it is physically impossible.

Chaz Bono cannot father a child as a man does no matter how big a penis is sewn on. As for the "pregnant man" who is a bearded woman got pregnant when her own egg was inseminated by some donors (a man) sperm.

So much for two mother and two fathers families. But political govt can call them what ever they like. I want mother and father on my birth record and paperwork.

reply to post by MrXYZ


Now you are one of the reasons the world is the way it is! you claim that these notions are outdated yet they are basic things that don't change,well,they have but thats why society is the hell hole it is today.
Why don't you look at the agenda behind what you have been conditioned to tolerate eh?

reply to post by Kali74


Gays contradict the whole point of being attracted to someone and being with someone and they also can't have children so clearly cannot have them anyway.
Forget adoption,thats just wrong.

reply to post by Kali74


Not a very good argument there.

It's happening everywhere and won't stop until we no longer know what a family unit means.

reply to post by Kali74


Religion is only about love if people are in the circle of gods way.Why would love have anything to do with those who contradict god's creation or what he wanted from us? god doesn't like gays so they are off of his love list.
No i'm not religious by the way.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Its not about hatred but instead its the basics which will never be outdated or evil.

reply to post by Annee


Theres no design with gays my friend.......just a weird mental state.

reply to post by ronishia


Have you read the Bible? it clearly says a lot about gays and yes,even Jesus disagreed with it.

reply to post by NocturnalPhantom


I think it should be ''Deny Stupidity'' because the only trolling and pointless hatred is from those who agree with this mess.

reply to post by muzzleflash

Wow i really enjoyed your posts but this is something very serious.I was not being facetious, i was speaking from my heart.The fact that you enjoy messing with me tells me you aren't serious about discussing this in a serious forum.I am 38 y.o and am married to an awesome women.Like i said earlier thank GOD my folks didn't brainwash me with some bible bull# that was written by a man to try and brainwash people into believing religion as truth instead of some lie meant to confuse humans their whole life..not cool..also i was in the army infantry for almost 4 years and i know a lot of gay soldiers. and would trust them to save my life and have my back any day of the week...epic fail

The title of this thread looks like one of the sunshine press and I only took a look, because I thought there are probably some boobs on page 3.

It is not about Europe at all, but about a little bureaucratique decision in the UK. There is no danger for family values in this and it surely does not destroy anybody's sexual identity.
Instead there are those usual intolerant Christians, who refer to an ancient collection of texts written by some unknown persons and selected by people, who tried to establish their power centuries later.

Society is dynamic, as is culture and language. Religion usually is not. That's why churches are empty nowadays.
Independantly of what I think about this little change in British forms and passports, I am glad that such things are not the business of people, who take all there moral from an outdated book.

Europe to destroy traditional family and sexual identity

What kind of nonsense is this. As far as I can see this article relates to Britain only. Any idea how many nations with their own sovereignty and policies there are in Europe? This is preposterous. And on topic. In my opinion this is nothing else but a minor bureaucratic adjustment. You are just projecting your ultraconservative paranoia upon it.

The end of individuality is starting.

Everyone will be a number soon if this passes.

Resist this blatant destruction of individuality!

You know, for all of these things that are claimed to be "destroying families", I can't help but think they're all more of "semantics enthusiasm". How could you possibly even force yourself to care whether it says parent 1 and parent 2? Because it has gender neutrality it's evil and "destroying" something? Prove it. Prove 1 thing it could possibly destroy that isn't in the same degree of "political correct madness" as that being barked against..

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


oh well. Look at your ID Card. You already are a number. Don't worry. Nothing new here. Move along!

Yup Anyone with a drivers license or passport is just a number, with most the info stored.. infact anyone with a birth certificate is already aregistered and recorded number.. then there marrige certificate/license, then theres the birth certificates of any of there children... the list goes on...

Also as the above poster mentioned, this is Britain, not europe, europe has around 50 countries in it and has a larger popullation than the WHole american continent (just to put the size of what we're talking here into perspective)

And as i have said before... this makes no real difference to anything, this makes perfect sense in a coutry where, same sex marriages, and "broken famelies" consisting of four parent figures, in some places, one dad and three mums (with the genetic mother leaving to be in a same sex marriage and the father re-marrying) parent 1 and parent 2 just makes sense)

i no way is this an attack on the norm of mother and father it just an exceptence that mother and father is not the only scenario in which a child is raised.

So which one gets to be number 1? Because that's going to cause discrimination. Everybody knows number 1 is clearly the better parent.