Why is everyone afraid of a place called HELL?

Originally posted by Minori
This is hell. God kicked Lucifer out of "heaven" and he "fell" . Where do you think he landed??? He is here and doing a fine job of reaking havoc.
Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Jesus also talked of Satan at the last supper
John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

He is here, and always has been.

PLPL

That is true. However, after the final judgement, God casts Satan into the lake of fire to live forever.

After Christ's second coming, he will reign on earth for 1,000 years (the Millennium). During this time, Satan is sent to the abyss so not to interfere in the world. When the Millennium is over, God will release him for the final battle on earth and then will cast him to the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:7-10

"7 And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 9 And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, 10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."

Then the Great White Throne Judgement takes place where the dead (from their first death) are judged.

Revelation 20:11-15

"11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. 14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

Heaven = Life, Hell = Death

Here are interesting verses in the Bible that show that if you don't believe what people are telling you here on earth, than you still wouldn't believe it even if the dead were to come back to tell you the truth.

Luke 16:19-31

19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’

27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

reply to post by gabby2011


You have to remember something about the human brain. We were once very barbaric creatures running around this planet, killing and maiming animals and each other. There is still a lot of barbarism still left inside our primitive minds, so it's still active. This means that people make irrational decisions as that primitive mind kicks in and they can't control themselves. Also remember if U study history U will see this was a common thing in our ancestral past, taking what U wanted. Civilized society has changed this reasoning, but some have not evolved in their heads to control their primitive irrational behavior.

It is what's left in the human mind. The human being is the one who makes these barbaric decisions. They are no different than a wild animal running around. There is no outside force doing this to you, it is you within your own mind doing it.

Every decision you make is your own, made from your own mind and nothing else. The human brain is full of flaws, many of them. The biggest flaw is the brains ability to imagine things. The imagination is what gets everyone into trouble. Why? Because you end up believing in the imaginary world you created instead of the real world in front of you.

reply to post by TWISTEDWORDS

You have to remember something about the human brain. We were once very barbaric creatures running around this planet, killing and maiming animals and each other. There is still a lot of barbarism still left inside our primitive minds, so it's still active.

ok.. so in reference to the title ..you have no problem with dealing with this primitive barbaric type of mindset for eternity..?

You seem to mock hell, and if it did exist..you would have no problem having your "fun" messin with it.

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What you said reminded me of what my Buddhist frient told me, that to the Buddhist, Hell is a state of mind - the Hell Realm.

reply to post by Deetermined


I was trying to find the bible verse where they talk about God giving Satan equal time to reign.
Are you familiar with it??? It is driving me mad that I can't remember where it is at.............

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Good points..............but let us not forget the "false prophets"........
When I get on this topic I swear it consumes me.......
But part of me must love it because I keep searching .......

Originally posted by Minori
reply to post by Deetermined

 

I was trying to find the bible verse where they talk about God giving Satan equal time to reign.
Are you familiar with it??? It is driving me mad that I can't remember where it is at.............

I'm not familiar with that one. Sorry.

Where do Christians go when they die?

Originally posted by Glockroshin
Where do Christians go when they die?

Can you be more specific? Are you asking what a true Christian is? Are you asking if there is a place between Heaven and Hell? Are you being sarcastic?

Originally posted by Glockroshin
Where do Christians go when they die?

They go in the grave like everybody else. Resurrection comes later.

Originally posted by Lazarus Short

Originally posted by Glockroshin
Where do Christians go when they die?

I wanted to know this because most believe they are in Heaven...But the Bible says "the dead in Christ shall rise first"....

They go in the grave like everybody else. Resurrection comes later.

If you burn in Hell for eternity,why does the Bible say that "the saints" shall tread on the ashes of the wicked on the new Earth?

Originally posted by Glockroshin
If you burn in Hell for eternity,why does the Bible say that "the saints" shall tread on the ashes of the wicked on the new Earth?

Good question! This happens while the lost are still dead, and burned up. In time, I believe they, too, will be ressurected. Otherwise, how can it be true that Death and Hell are the last enemies to be defeated? Death can not be really defeated if the lost are still dead, can they?

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OR . .
You can figure out that Revelation is metaphorical with no indication that it should be taken in any other way.

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Lazarus Short

 

OR . .
You can figure out that Revelation is metaphorical with no indication that it should be taken in any other way.

The book of Daniel unlocks the book of revelations...In revelations it speaks about beasts coming out of waters...In Daniel it says that a beast is a power,and waters are people...Revelations also says that those who have the mark of the beast will not make it to heaven...Some say that they will burn in Hell for having the mark of the beast...If a beast is a power,and you can receive it's mark upon your forehead and also on your hand...Who is the beast?(power) What kind of power can stop your mind from obeying Gods Commandments and believing in Him? Remember,your forehead is the seat to your mind=(what you believe or follow,or obey)...your hand is(you do not believe but will go along wiht it just to be able to buy or sell)...What about "The Seal of God" written upon the saints forehead only?

How you worship determands who you worship=(or obey and follow).Speaking about Hell and end times,the Bible says"Many are called but few were chosen,as it was in the day of Noah,when only eight were saved"...For some reason,it's saying only a few make it.

Originally posted by Lazarus Short

Originally posted by Glockroshin
Where do Christians go when they die?

They go in the grave like everybody else. Resurrection comes later.

I don't necessarily agree with this one. The Bible talks of Hades being Hell, so there has to be a place for the saved to go before the resurrection. I believe it to be "Paradise" as written in the Bible. 2 Corinthians 12 also talks about Paul's vision of a third heaven. After the final judgement, those in Hell with be thrown in the lake of fire and those in Paradise will go to heaven. This is my opinion.

Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

have U ever thought that maybe u were in a place that was in some sort of a time vortex and what U were seeing or hearing was the past or future..

I have seen the future, as it pertains to my own life and what God plans for me to do and it has come true every time. Now on the large scale of global prophecy and foretelling, no. I think that ability is not one of my gifts, Although any brother or sister of mine is capable of it. Only the Holy Spirit administers those types of gifts.