99%? Who wants to be a part of the 100%?

reply to post by neo96


And Wall Street isn't behind DC's actions?

They are not the ones pushing for regulations that are stangling small business?

I think they are the ones pulling the trigger.

reply to post by daskakik


difference in opinions why the hell pay someone when they can pick up and leave any given time without any hassle or cost to them.

t hose rules and regulations what i call government sanction has only one effect power and control over them

there is not one person or business existing in this country that isnt at the mercy of the us federal government.

hey feel free to blame whoever you want your choice im not jumpin on that bandwagon.

the greatest enemy to this nations people and business is its own government its always been that way always will be that way.

and when it comes to politicians the only thing they give a crap about is themselves and their jobs

Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by antonia

 

I would like nothing better than to be wrong

Truly

History will tell the tale I suppose.

If you start to see people like me rounded up and arrested or flat out executed.... You will know we weren't wrong, should that happen I hope at least YOUR eyes will be opened, because by then YOU will be their only hope

If anyone is rounded up and arrested and/or executed it will be those protesting for your rights.
It will be the Corporate fascist rounding up anyone protesting against the status quo like those currently in the street.

Tyranny will come from the Right; waving an American flag in the right hand and a cross in the other.
The Right has already started the scapegoating as evidenced in this thread with all the namecalling.

reply to post by Cinaed


Here's an intersting look at history:Wealth, Income and Power

A quick look at Table 3 shows that in the last 100 years or so the 1% hold around 30% of the nations wealth no matter who is in office or what social programs are in effect.

The point when they held the highest amount was in 1929. That was when the Great Depression started. Could just be a coincidance but then again.

reply to post by neo96


You know that when a criminal organization pays off the cops they can get away with murder.

Why would it be any different at the national level?

Of course the government is the greatest threat because it can be corrupted. But the ones corrupting it are just as responsible. Your the one choosing to blame one and let the other one get off scott free.

reply to post by antonia


If you want to talk electromagnetic or kinetic energy, we can do that.....

If you want to keep it in layman's terms we could just say for every action there is an equal and opposite REACTION....

50cent words don't intimidate, sorry

Since the hypothesis of the existence of a huge point mass called an “inflaton” is used to explain numerous characteristics of the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB) and the expansion of the universe, it makes sense to consider that the universe was once immersed in a hyperbolic gravitational field. The inflaton itself can be said to have existed before the Big Bang (BB). So, its hyperbolic gravitational field must have existed then too. The question arises: What happened to the hyperbolic field after the BB? At the instant of the BB, the hyperbolic field must have begun to collapse or transition from a hyperbolic field to a parabolic Newtonian filed. This transition should still be occurring, the process requiring the entire lifetime of the universe to complete. The hyperbolic field is inherently more intense than the equivalent parabolic field, so the transition to the weaker field must be releasing potential energy. This energy will show up as kinetic energy in the form of the accelerating expansion rate of the universe. So, the source of “Dark Energy” is gravitational, as a positive cosmological constant, Lambda, implies. No “quintessence” field is needed, just as no “Dark Matter” is needed to explain the MOND effect.

Black holes are singularities. This means that they must exist as point masses, according to general relativity. The gravitational field around a point mass must have a hyperbolic potential profile, not a parabolic one as assumed by Newton’s Law of Gravity. A hyperbola is characterized by asymptotes that define the extreme behavior of the curve far from the origin. Hyperbolic curves merely approach, but never reach the asymptotes. Proper parabolas, on the other hand, approach and reach their extreme values eventually. For instance, a proper parabola will actually pass through the origin, but the equivalent hyperbola never will.

www.thescienceforum.com...

reply to post by daskakik


The US is in for a big surprise in the future when its 1% no longer consume 80% of the worlds resources.
In not so distance future the US 1% will consume like 35% of the worlds wealth. The US 99% will be doing not so much consuming at all because the 1% who have money and wealth in the US, will be doing business/investments in China,India and Africa. In other words American jobs are heading out to people who do more for less pay, and where the cost of living is less expensive.

OWS is in D.C.. But NOT against the administration.

The movement to Occupy Wall Street, or OWS, that began in New York has spread like wildfire to other major cities throughout the country, including right here in Washington D.C. From the Enough Project office we were able to cheer on protesters marching toward Freedom Square, and Enough Project interns, along with Congo Campaign Manager JD Stier, joined the crowd to protest on the steps of the Chamber of Commerce.

enoughlive.forumone.com...

reply to post by spy66


What you don't get is much of MAIN STREET is already gone! I posted about this earlier too.

You are so focused on the 1% as you call it that you have totally missed that most of the little guys with money...the ones not so wealthy as say, Bill 'Gates... MANY of them have already left with their families. They saw what is happening now, back in the early 90's....they quietly took their children and left, got dual citizenship in other countries and invest their money THERE now, and have been for a decade or more.....

One of my previous employers is a prime example. He left with his family in the mid 90's. When Sept 11, 2001 came around he said... SEE!?!?!??!?!?! THAT'S why I left!!! NOT the future I want for my kids!

Slowly over time he has removed more and more of his investment capital from the US, and is now RE INVESTING it in another country...

At first he was just watching, as more and more of the current events of today began to rear it's head, he started selling.....

Now he keeps JUST enough capital here "in case the US pulls it's head out of the sand" but his livelihood and all the people he USE to employ here is now benefiting a country more conducive to what he wants for his children's future....


He is not alone....what you just don't get is MANY of the people that would create jobs to hire the youth left already...They chose NOT to continue to invest and RISK their hard earned money on what is coming down the shoot.....in other words they decided the way the country has been going is a BAD investment

Main reason...the activities of the FED and gov.

Will he and people like him come BACK if OWS gets their demands met?? not a chance in hell

reply to post by antonia

Yoyos are a very good example of this....when making the yoyo go up and down without tricks you build up kinetic energy, more and more energy is gathered each time the yoyo slaps into your hand....This energy can be used to do tricks that are not possible with out building up the kinetic energy first....However without the proper skill....loss of control happens.....

Then instead of having a yoyo that doesn't possess enough energy to do the desired tricks...all you have is a wad of knotted string that is useless for anything

Extremes.....keeping control of the energy during extreme tricks is very tricky indeed...

reply to post by beezzer


Just because thay are camped out in front of commercial institutions doesn't mean that message isn't directed at the administration. The administration is the one that has to meet their demands or crack down. Not the corporations.

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by beezzer

 

Just because thay are camped out in front of commercial institutions doesn't mean that message isn't directed at the administration. The administration is the one that has to meet their demands or crack down. Not the corporations.

Yeah, I get the Chamber of Commerce and the White House mixed up all the time.

reply to post by beezzer

Really, try to read what I wrote instead of just quick drawing.

Doesn't matter where they gather the government is the one that must respond.

reply to post by Cinaed


The middle class in the US "The 99%" dont have capital to invest in new jobs that will substitute the jobs that are being shipped out. The middle class in the US is shrinking, because of the debt the 99% are in per capital. Which is a major problem in the US right now among the 99%.

The 99% dont have the capital to invest in new jobs in a market where prices and wages are already very high. There are no growth prospects for the investors within the 99% who have capital to invest. There is to much debt to handle per capital/per person in the US to invest in them.

The majority of the 99%. The middle class working force in the US have large debt. They cant afford to work cheap. So the investors cant produce products with compatible prices with the developing world.

reply to post by whaaa


I agree that you might be right on that point, which is why I fail to understand how it is you don't see this extreme left protest as a precursor to that VERY thing....

thesis and anti thesis = symbiosis

Destabilize in the direction of socialism and communism ie protest funders......Unions etc etc....create havoc...screw up the market.....make a trash mess in major big cities (just look at the sanitation issues, if the Tea Party did that we'd all still be hearing about it) make people more afraid and yearning for stability.....

BAM.....enter fascism to *save the day*

That's why I KEEP saying, the youth are being SET UP and DUPED!!!

TPTB are exploiting their most basic vulnerability of being young...wanting to change the world and make it a better place, most of us feel the same at that stage of life (we DO understand)....that is not what they are going to get though

People keep flipping out when some of us say Restore the Republic, and think that is all about Republicans... It's NOT... it's about RETURNING to the documents that protect us from all of this BS......This country has strayed VERY far from the mark. Rather than calling for the restoration of the constitution what OWS is calling for is the destruction of it

When I posted two different dictionary definitions to the words Democracy and Republic, most of the people's heads exploded [I would be willing to bet most of the people calling for restoring the republic AREN'T Reps]

Scary

Originally posted by projectvxn

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by neo96

 

Holy #! Something smart from gas mask boy!

Yea, seriously, you guys don't wanna see any good in anything. Just forget it.

What good is there in communism?

Have you even read Marx and Engels?

A Communist has read Marx. An anti-Communist is someone who actually understands Marx.

edit on 8-10-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)

If you SERIOUSLY see no good in Communist theory, then you're either lying or you're an unreasonable/brainwashed/immoral person.

I've read the Communist Manifesto... and to be quite honest there are a LOT of great points/ideas in the theories/grievances of Communism.

I am neither a Capitalist nor a Communist, and I understand both. And ya know what I've learned? They BOTH concentrate wealth/power into the hands of the few, BOTH in the name of "freedom" and an eventual stateless society.

This is why I'm an Anarchist- because you DON'T implement a tyrannical middle-man (like Capitalism/Communism does) in order to achieve a stateless/free society. If you have a pair of balls, a substantial intellect, and brutal honesty with yourself... you would subscribe, at least SOMEWHAT, to Anarchism (and no... Anarcho-Capitalism is NOT Anarchism).

Originally posted by Raivan31
The thing that i find truly, mind numbingly Redonculous about all this?
Chances are very strong that 100% of the people posting on here are on the same boat, perhaps you occupy a different deck (better view, fresher air) But when this ship goes down every last one of us is gonna drown and it's not gonna matter how well you can swim cause you'll just die tired.

You say that division is wrong? maybe it is but that doesn't change the fact that it is true.
You can stand in the lion cage at the zoo and pretend that the lion doesn't exist but it won't stop it from eating you.

Is what is being said here that there are no problems? because it certainly sounds like a lot of people are saying that. hands over their ears and eyes closed yelling "not listening, not listening".

There are actually three divisions in our modern western world.
There are the Elite, The elites lapdogs and then everyone else not 'fortunate' enough to be a lapdog.

Lets face it. Most people either have a job or do not have a job, those that do scream "Shut up theres nothing wrong, i can pay my bills and raise a family"
And those that don't scream "shut up i can't pay the bills and raise a family"

It's similar to stockholme syndrome. The people 'fortunate' enough to be able to pay their bills don't complain because they aren't living in the gutter. They can buy their latte's and computers and pay for their internet connectivity. The irony is that these very same people accuse the '99%' of the same thing!

The 'Elite' have us fighting one another instead of working together to ensure that everyone can have the same quality of life.

Don't work hard enough? Any idea how very hard it is to live day to day when you don't know how your gonna pay the rent and bills?

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by Thestargateisreal

 

Communism has 100000000 million deaths under its glorious banner.

Capitalism,not so much.......................


You could always prove me wrong with some facts to base your drivel with.

Are you kidding me? You need to use your mind a little better than that. In the defense/propagation/effects of Capitalism via wars, installation of Capitalist-friendly dictators, death of workers/indigenous/consumers/victims of pollution, and so on... I think you'd find a similar number, who knows, maybe MORE. DO NOT ignore the ambiguous/unspoken murder by Capitalism simply because of the overt/shocking murder by Communism.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

 

winners stand alone cowards who cant do for themselves form gangs to exert their will over people

nobody can prove to me that annoymous isnt paid for by the dnc or soros.

makes sense dont it? only people who are supporting ows are liberals and seriously an angry liberal aint nothing new

edit on 8-10-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

Until you can PROVE your asinine claims... all you're doing is speculating without a clue as to what you're talking about because the REAL REVOLUTION is (and always has been) left-wing... and you're so butt-hurt about it you will spew any nonsense you can to discredit a genuine movement.

If you SERIOUSLY see no good in Communist theory, then you're either lying or you're an unreasonable/brainwashed/immoral person.

reply to post by NoHierarchy


Communism will only work in the real world when all men are angels. Never in history has Communism benefited the people it has been *imposed* on.

Most people who find aspects of communism noble were not alive when Communism existed in many more places around the world than it exists today.

I find it interesting though that most people not opposed to it have this *those other guys didn't do it right* outlook. I have yet to hear anyone alive in the days of the USSR and Communist China share your views.

And so I suppose the world must try again for they have forgotten the lessons learned about it decades ago.

sigh