So, Steve Jobs is dead... but what did he really give us?!?!

reply to post by Muckster


Wow I wish I could speak freely without getting slapped on the wrist by the ATS staff here.

This is the biggest joke of a thread I have ever seen. EVER

OP... you'll get what you get

PS... to all the idiots flagging this thread - I hope you all burn in hell. Let the man rest in peace, this is frickin ridiculous.. !!!!

Disgusting. Period.

reply to post by Muckster


Yells out, "Bravo Bravo" clapping her hands. Very well written, I wish I could applaud your post, but a star and flag will have to do for now.



ETA
I would like to add however, Steve Jobs was probably the greatest businessman the USA (maybe even the world) has ever seen. The real whiz kid was Mr. Woz. Mr. Jobs gets my respect...he deserves it after all. He came from nothing special what so ever and built an empire...that's special.

What did he give us? A lot!

He changed how we use technology.
He created the touch phone, the phone that every other stupid company has tried to follow.
He changed the music industry with iTunes.
He saved struggling artists from illegal downloads by incorporating iTunes.
He changed the mp3 player market with iPod...when do people say "hey did you get a new mp3 player?" NOPE! they say "did you get a new iPod?" WHAT IS AN MP3 PLAYER???, it's an iPod.
He brought back the tablet computer and made it work, where Microsoft failed in 2001.

Anyway I could keep going but lets just say he changed the game....he was a brilliant visionary and innovator so give the man some well deserved recognition and credit.

Sorry.. i dont post much here but the derogatory comments towards steve jobs are just as sheepish as the comments painting him as a matyr. He was a brilliant man, one of our modern thinkers. We are always asking "where are the inventors of today, oh the NWO must have got them all brainwashed", when in reality, they are alive and well, in their 50s. we just happened to lose one this week.

Between Woz and Jobs in the 70s, we got colour monitors. Woz was the engineer responsible for figuring out how to get colour onto a CRT screen using minimal parts. Jobs was the guy who made sure it was actually economically viable to do.

We got room sized devices, shrunk down to fit in a house, and then again in our pockets.. isnt that somewhat amazing? This guy helped do that. His combined genius with other engineers has made science fiction somewhat possible in the communication and personal pc space.. Although im sure no one even remembers Engineers telling people that pc's would one day be the size of warehouses etc.

I understand what you are saying in regards to the whole adding to consumerism culture and being an elitest, sure. but you cannot deny the fact that the man had a major role in getting personal technology to where it is today.

I've probably re-written the next couple of lines over and over because there is just no way to write it without being flamed, but here goes: without this guy, we wouldn't be where we are in the field of technology/personal communications. we take for granted what we have. The guy wasn't a godlike visionary like many paint him as, but you cannot deny his contribution to the advancement of human technology, even if its in the personal/consumerism space.

As for the foxconn stuff, he is not innocent of that. but at the same time, its what happens when you contract out the manufacturing of goods to a external company. its out of your hands. For the record, foxconn make A LOT more parts than just apple. Samsung screen frames, PC cases, chips, you name it, they make it. routers, switches, PCIE cards.. so its a foxconn problem, not an apple problem and the conditions to which the workers there are put under. its not humane.

Anyway. i know this will be flamed, but you are honestly brainwashed by your own conspiracy theories if you deny what this guy actually did for us.

I don't really get the Steve Jobs angst. I'd say those who are most upset over his passing are people who actively used the products with which he was heavily involved with the development. So? Why do you have a problem with people being upset over this? Why is it even necessary to create a thread over it?

I don't really agree with the premise of the thread. Steve did not actively promote poor working conditions in other countries. It's hardly limited to his corporation. Just because YOU, OP, live a minimalist life, doesn't mean others care to do so. You scoff at social networking, yet it is THE reason Egypt unfolded like it did. As we move forward, many countries (including the U.S.), can benefit from such a thing. It's not just for showing off stupid pictures to people you don't know.

So.. what.. you probably grow your own food, own nothing but the bare essentials, and probably can make a bar of soap from scratch.. and because you choose to live this way, you feel it's your right to scoff and degrade the way others choose to live?

What have YOU contributed? Have you worked towards green electronics? Have you worked towards humanitarian goals regarding education? Steve Jobs at least WORKED hard in his life, which is probably more than many here can say.

Stop worrying so much what others feel and think about someone who has passed away. It's really none of your business if someone mourns his passing. Go back to your hut and make a fire and watch your 19" black and white TV, and privately seethe at evil the world is due to technology. For the record, it matters not if works in foreign countries worked for Apple or anyone else. The conditions are a symptom of the country, NOT the company.

For the record: I own nothing I-anything. I'm an IT guy, and still do not have an IPhone, IPod, etc. I have a cheap MP3 player for the gym. I use my company provided Blackberry. I might at some point get an IPad, simply because it's quite useful. I felt little remorse for Steve, other than sympathy - I DO recognize he has done a lot for IT, and it's a lot more than just for "fun." IPhones are used by a lot of our VPs and execs, and they use it for the betterment of their daily jobs. You are deluded if you think it's only for "fun."

I dont no about "us" but he's gave me a pretty nice macbook pro along with a nice touch screen phone that every other company seems to try to out do. The guy was a marketing genius.

Am I the only iVirgin on ATS?

I haven't owned an iPod, an iPhone, a Mac, used iTunes, etc.

Also, I've never seen so much trolling over a single man on my entire time on the Internet. Some of the comments and images of Steve Jobs I'm seeing on various forums (such as iDead, an apple a day, etc.) are beyond comprehension.

Then again, all this drama is a good way to pass the time until October 28th gets here.

reply to post by Muckster


Well said! S&F! I really like OSX, but the rest is not so good, the expensive hardware is a shame, the overpriced iphone turns people into zombies who can't live without it anymore. Let's not forget the shameless marketing tricks to force you into buying new machines, things you don't need, and their great PR machine to make you forget how evil the company is, as you have clearly shown.

And OSX is actually Linux with a nice gui, so not a lot of kudos for that either. But after 20 years of windows, it was a relief, I must admit. I'll never go back but I am now building my own hackintoshes after being forced by their tactics (RAM limitation) to buy a new machine two times in a year.

I can't help but notice that it fits with the NWO plans, take as much money from people as possible to keep them focused on making more, like slaves, and creating separation by having children on their phone 24x7.

Lol i like this thread.. After reading about the suicides that happened over there in china..
Taking your life over working conditions? Crazy world we live in.. it must of been pretty bad.

At least if he went off to be a gardener then i wouldn't have that annoying apple update
extension that i cant remove from my computer.. Haha.


R.I.P. Steve Jobs

How dare you! Have some respect for the dead, man! Steve Jobs was a great man. He revolutionized the computer and cell phone industry, he pretty much created mp3 players! He gave a lot of money to all different types of charity. That's his contribution. He's an icon. What are you going to leave behind when you die?

reply to post by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx


People have the right to question all the hype when all sorts of people are dying every few seconds. It's important we question this.

You could spew that rant about ANY large company on the planet. The difference is, Steve Jobs built devices that changed the world in profound ways. I am not going to go into detail because there is a lot of information out there right now as to how.

What have YOU given us?

reply to post by UniverSoul


LMAO laymans computer! Why? because it just works and does what you need it to? No, virus to worry about no stupid windows (i cant compute #) Thats why every tech worker uses them because they are just so simple. LOL Maybe the main interface is laymens, but get into the host files and you can make it do anything you need or want. Obviously you dont have that knowledge to know what they can do.

How about we make a thread comparing the list of achievements made by Steve Jobs with one about the OP? I think I know which one will be more impressive...

reply to post by Dark Ghost


Don't forget to also compare the amount of suicides and environmental impact caused by the OP.

Originally posted by Dark Ghost
How about we make a thread comparing the list of achievements made by Steve Jobs with one about the OP? I think I know which one will be more impressive...

You, my Friend, win the Kewpie Doll, post of the night

Not many people use Macs. He didn't invent anything he was just good at selling us stuff we didn't really need at insane prices making some simpletons feel that they needed the next so called better iPhone, iPod & iPad.

Can't wait for the Amazon Fire tablet, it's going to be an iPad killer as less then half the price.

reply to post by DrinkYourDrug


And unless you live in a third world country and dont buy any imported goods then you cant talk either. Ohhhhh wait you have a computer made by some slave in a sweat shop damn. Everyone adds to the slaves working for nothing in other countries. Get your head out of your ass!

reply to post by Muckster


Hear, hear!

I am admittedly an Apple lover, and am sad Jobs died....but as soon as I saw this, I couldn't help but laugh...and think of this thread.