OWS DOA or Simply Misdirected?

Okay okay end the fed, but the fed isn't just going to vanish. It's all so intertwined, they're all so bought off and in bed together. Don't they feel by now, kind of how one feels when they get that pretty girl they wanted? You don't want her nearly as much right? My goodness Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and Morgans etc etc; what's the fun in having ALL of it?

If we really want to end the Fed; or have any real change the people want, we need to have a government without unlimited terms for the house and senate. If congressman and senators had limited terms, instead of these career politicians who are a chosen by corporations, or elitists, made even richer by lobbyists. Hell let's not even use the term politicians. Let's use elected citizen, and have them be actually that. Get these crooks and greedy glutons out the doors and intelligent real people in them. Ron Paul, even if elected, would only be able to do so much without the senate or house. We have to start somewhere.

reply to post by Hiasyouwant


I AGREE

But squating in the parks making incoherent demands or shouting at buildings doesn't cut it.

reply to post by SLAYER69


Funny how a few hundred people squatting in a park turned into massive protests across the nation yesterday. 36,000 people in NYC yesterday, 10's of thousands in LA, thousands in Portland, thousands more across the US.

Funny how a few hundred squatters in a park are the buzz of the world, even if the MSM and the politicians aren't properly portraying/crediting Occupy, all they are talking about now are the things you can read on a cardboard sign at an Occupy protest.

Funny how a few hundred squatters are exposing the world to the corruption of the United States.

reply to post by Kali74


Yeah it's funny
Notice the date on this thread and when they actually protested in Washington DC?

Funny huh!

reply to post by SLAYER69


I was replying to your last post not your OP.
There is an Occupy DC. It's a bit difficult especially in these economic times to get alllllll the occupiers to DC but...
by next week a small group of OWS'rs should have gotten there by their own feet and, there's a massive protest planned for Capitol Hill in December (still in planning phase) and...a massive march is being talked about for spring/summer 2012.

reply to post by Kali74


The point I was trying to make is that many of us saw this coming. Hence why this thread was written a few weeks back in the first place


Now since then yeah sure we have seen some activity but nothing like what a coordinated effort would have accomplished. And for many all of a sudden it's like a light bulb went off some OWS crowds heads about the FED.

Sure there have been some in the past week or so. But again many of us have felt they were wasting time and barking up the wrong tree Wall Street from the start..

Sorry double post please continue

Originally posted by Kali74
Funny how a few hundred squatters are exposing the world to the corruption of the United States.

You actually believe your own words, don't you? Yes, thank god for OWS, without them the world wouldn't know that the USA is home to corruption of various degrees. Hooray for these brave souls who have finally exposed that wall street, contrary to popular belief, is corrupt.

I'm all for them protesting, as its their right, but I'm not going to put marks in their victory column if they haven't achieved them.

My first Triple post

reply to post by SLAYER69


They've been talking about the Fed from the get go. wtf? lol

It just isn't their only talking point and rightly so the corruption is all tied together. The fed, the banks, the govt, the corporations and all of our money...taxes, mortgages, student loans, any loans, our debt...everything is being played around with on WALL STREET, our congress is getting rich off insider trading. Wall Street isn't the only target but it's as good as any of the others.

reply to post by GringoViejo


Good lord I didn't say they were the saviors of the free world.

Originally posted by SLAYER69

My first Triple post

posted on 18-11-2011 @ 04:20 PM
p18444
s46555
Some people would have a field day with those numbers.
That post looks like a glitch in the matrix!

reply to post by Kali74


Nor did I accuse you of such.

But the notion is only slightly less ridiculous than what I qouted.

reply to post by Kali74


AND...

What exactly have they really accomplished thus far? Except for the alienation of those of us who have expressed concern about the lack of direction and content. I feel for them and as I've stated in the OP of this thread and elsewhere numerous times that I agree in general with the premise but having written this quite a few weeks back and since observing their various actions and activities I feel like distancing me from them.

So again, what have they accomplished?

I mean in real terms..

Double post

AGAIN

reply to post by GringoViejo


Not really but if it makes you happy to think so...

reply to post by SLAYER69


They've raised awareness. And like I said in my initial reply, if you really look at what the media and politicians are talking about and how they have shifted their focus since Occupy began 2 months ago you will see it. I challenge you to it. You won't see or hear rather, anyone crediting Occupy with a damn thing but you can tell it's being talked about. They have exposed abusive officers or rather the fact that there are abusive officers. They are showing everyday how easy it is for the 1st Amendment to be stepped on. Democrats in the Senate want to repeal Citizens United and that they did actually credit OWS for. Wait til the lawsuits hit the Police Departments in Oakland and New York lol. And please try to remember it's only been 2 months, a blink of an eye.

reply to post by Kali74


I worry about the organizations that are involved due to their use of large monetary sums to influence politics. The union influence seems contrary to the supposed goals of ows. Unions in NY have a bad history. That is the kind of stuff that worries me about the ows as a movement. Grass-root with the help of unions? No thank you, but a actual untainted "by the people" ground up that I can respect and get behind.
As for the police, well on both sides that wasn't so good. But the NYPD was a bit less "jackbooted" than some others.

reply to post by hangedman13


I agree with you about the unions. Like Corporations they aren't a bad thing in theory and both can serve good but both are also corrupt beyond recognition. Both should be limited on how much money they can donate to non charities. Get money out of politics.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

They've been talking about the Fed from the get go. wtf? lol

It just isn't their only talking point and rightly so the corruption is all tied together. The fed, the banks, the govt, the corporations and all of our money...taxes, mortgages, student loans, any loans, our debt...everything is being played around with on WALL STREET, our congress is getting rich off insider trading. Wall Street isn't the only target but it's as good as any of the others.

I took out student loans, paid every single cent back. I took out car loans, paid them off. I took out a mortgage, that is current and being paid off as well because I signed my name in agreement to do so. So what is wrong with this picture? I should take out loans and later say nah....I don't want to pay no more so I'm not gonna and then there are no consequences? That's not how it works.