When Occupy Wall Streen Accomplishes Nothing - You heard it here first

Originally posted by Section31
reply to post by gncnew

 

"OccupyWallStreet's" main goal is to get Obama re-elected. Regardless about everything else they are protesting against, "OccupyWallStreet's" over all existence is to help the Democrats win in 2012. Period.

Do you know what they will get for their effort? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Even though they may have the ability to get him back into office, they will get nothing in return for their efforts.

"OccupyWallStreet" is a tool for the Democrat party.

Nothing will change their fate.

edit on 10/5/2011 by Section31 because: (no reason given)

You got any evidence to support this? Im asking nicely

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman

 

So you know the political leanings of the protesters. Wow...impressive military mind you have.

If you were to look back into history you would know that revolution is not a young mans game, but a demand for justice and change from all ages, but only one socioeconomic class, the majority.

Your condescension does not serve your argument.

What do you speak of?

Yes, in the past, revolution was not. But, we are here and now.
Protests are for people that love the crowd.
Revolution, now, is for the young.
Now, what is meant by Revolution?
I think you and I are speaking a different dialect.

This is not a plan co-opted by The White House, Soros, The Dems, The Liberals and none of those shadowy puppet groups. This was formed by average Americans who are the 99%, this is not a plan co-opted by TPTB to invoke martial law.

To those trying to cut this down you will lose and do not even dare to spin this to be added to "The Left-v-Right" paradigm and have already stated they want nothing to do with the 2 party oligarchy. To insinuate or spin anything else is a blatant lie.

The target is the banks and if you are with the banks you are against America as they do not give a toss about you as you are not a multi millionaire!

Originally posted by ka119
reply to post by gncnew

 

Debbie Downer alert.

Well good for you, while you sit and do nothing, let these people try and change the world.
Enough with the negativity, reading your posts about all this is absolutely ridiculous. All you do is bitch and moan about how they aren't doing anything, well they are doing a hell of a lot more than you are, eh?

Stop it! You almost made me spit out my x-large coke as I was eating my super sized fries and big mac...

If I go to the rescue mission and feed 20 homeless men and women on a Wedensday night, but I do it very quietly.. .OR I go and spend a week in the park and chant "Down with Wall Street!" all day and night

Which path actually accomplished something? Intentions without results is useless and a waste. You'll learn this when you grow up.

reply to post by PapaKrok


In my case, I am responding to the ignorant and collectivist ramblings of those posting on ATS. For every hypocrite who says, get off your couch and go do something, please look in the mirror.
I have not been to a protest nor will I go. Like the tea party protests, this whole thing is likely no more than a great communal masterbation. Anger over the current system is real. But those in power know how to channel the sheeple. "Rightie" or "Leftie" and you guys continue to follow with mindless aplomb.

The ramblings on here and the presentation being made in both the MSM and the alternative media give this movement a strong leftist rep. If this is not the case, those who aren't leftist better make these other idiots shut up or your movement is caput. If not from corporate derailment, then from the ideology itself. The only way to get the US to embrace collectivism is to make its people commit treason against this nation's most vital principles.

I hate the current banking system, too. And I have my own -- different -- opinions on how to beat them, or at least not beat us. I'd rather the current system than one dominated by a politburo representing "the people." Trotsky was a believer, too. But guess who won the day? Stalin.

Originally posted by ka119
reply to post by gncnew

 

Debbie Downer alert.

Well good for you, while you sit and do nothing, let these people try and change the world.
Enough with the negativity, reading your posts about all this is absolutely ridiculous. All you do is bitch and moan about how they aren't doing anything, well they are doing a hell of a lot more than you are, eh?

yes. we should all not think critically, we should all just go out in the streets, without
leadership, without clear goals, yes sheeple... don't think. lol. we should get out in the
streets so that "dylan" from msnbc can tell us what he "thinks". lol. propaganda spin
megafail, left gatekeepers. vote trump 2012!

Originally posted by CCLLCCLL
reply to post by gncnew

 

Thomas Jefferson told us each generation needs a revolution. I must say I agree. The protesters are not going to talk any sense into the greedy monsters that are strangling this country and world, but they are one of the final contributions to the clog that will break the levee of greed and flush those dark powers into the revolutionary recycling bin. Viva la Revolution!

You think so? I don't... I think they're the next class in Democrat political machina circa 2008.

I think the real revolution will happen when the credit bubble bursts entirely. The revolution won't happen in the streets - it will happen in the banks. Protests just make these goobers feel good.

Originally posted by gncnew


ABSOLUTELY! Fedral Reserve is the problem - but Wall Street aint where you fight it. And this whole "living wage" and "unemployment" stuff are all symptons of the problem.

We need to force our elected officials to begin printing their own money again - and outlaw the Fed Reserve. Every President who's fought them (from Lincoln to Kennedy) has been shot.

You do realize that you have common ground with people that are protesting? There numerous folks out there screaming to End the Fed(and I agree).

Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
Op's last three threads are basically bashing on Occupy Wall St.

(Second Line)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And in that last one, you Full On Straw-manned their position, by posting an incorrect link to a set of false demands, claiming that those outlandish demands were Theirs....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And you ridiculed the people who were correcting you.



Hey OP, Are you being Paid to Post on AboveTopSecret?

edit on 4-10-2011 by ErtaiNaGia because: (no reason given)

I agree totally with you : this OP is a shame !! what does he do to counter the big neo-capitalist crisis ??
NOTHING !! he just is a poor sixpack stupid one playing the game of the 1 % .....
because no brain left to think for 2 or more ..... just for himself.
Shame. Period.

Please watch this video. Sean Hannity absolutely wrecks this poor poor little girl. I honestly believe the majority of the protesters are as "educated" as this woman. They clearly have no idea what they're talking about.

therightsideofkennebunk.blogspot.com...

here's the link if the video doesn't work.

Originally posted by hadriana
It started all of a sudden- did someone somewhere get together and say "This is how we'll attack this thing? We'll call them kids, hippies, far left - we'll marginalize them and try to keep the older and more mainstream people from joining them."

Because then the media started up "It's pro-Obama!" "It's a new radical left!" "It's a George Soros group!" And that is the same time the crap started on this board.

You can have a diverse crowd and if you only show people that are 24 and black, you might present them as being a 20 something black movement. You neglected to show the other colors of the rainbow and ages of aquarius standing out there...

Media paints the picture they want you to see. Last night on fox, they said "Here them chanting 'Take the bridge" and they showed the crowd chanting, but guess what? They were NOT chanting take the bridge..if you listened.

edit on 4-10-2011 by hadriana because: (no reason given)

I hate to brake it to you but, by definition, any diverse group is bound to be liberal (and proudly so!) diversity is avoided by the conservative side.

-rrr

Originally posted by MyMindIsMyOwn

Originally posted by gncnew

You have to believe one of two truths here:

A. There are so few protestors that donated cookies and food is enough to feed them all
B. There are so many protestors that the donated food area is but a tiny fraction of what's actually being consumed.

I make no assumption nor do I 'have to believe' either one. My post was in response to another poster who was asking about food. There, in my response, was part of the answer. Another part is in my post as well where I stated that I am sure some are patronizing local eateries and what not and yet another part would just be common sense... if you are going to stay there for any length of time take your own food stuffs and things you may need like a sleeping bag or chair.

You can't logically assume that donated food is enough to feed large masses of people.

I don't believe I even hinted at that assumption of yours. I direct you to my statements above.

And what about their bathroom needs? The logistics of hosting the amount of people that we're being told is there is staggering if they're really being as self-sufficient as you'd like to believe.

If you are so concerned about their bathroom needs, go look it up yourself. It was not in the post I was responding to, nor is it really any of my concern. The fact we are not hearing any complaints as to smell means they are managing very well.

And when was it suddenly ok to trust the MSM's stories?

This one had me laughing out loud, literally. Would it have been more believable if the clip had come from Alex Jones, Steve Quayle, Federal Jack or Sasha Faal??

You make some fair points - but your response was to someone questioning how they are fighting the man when feeding off the man.

So I was pointing out that while there could be donated food - this isn't some self-sustaining organism. They're a parasite on the system they're protesting.

Lastly - I only asked when it was ok to trust the MSM because this whole site is about denying ignorance - yet you link to an ABC story about cookies from grandma? Come on now.

Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by ka119
reply to post by gncnew

 

Debbie Downer alert.

Well good for you, while you sit and do nothing, let these people try and change the world.
Enough with the negativity, reading your posts about all this is absolutely ridiculous. All you do is bitch and moan about how they aren't doing anything, well they are doing a hell of a lot more than you are, eh?

Stop it! You almost made me spit out my x-large coke as I was eating my super sized fries and big mac...

If I go to the rescue mission and feed 20 homeless men and women on a Wedensday night, but I do it very quietly.. .OR I go and spend a week in the park and chant "Down with Wall Street!" all day and night

Which path actually accomplished something? Intentions without results is useless and a waste. You'll learn this when you grow up.

are you kidding or what ??? you do help 20 homeless people ??? kidding of course because I do not believe you for a second !!
you are a fraud ! a neo-capitalist neo-con fraud !! go join your friend GWBushy and Cheeny and Rumsky and Rove and their Reagonomics with Thatcher bullsh************t ok ?? you are a fraud and a lier, you never did help anybody otherwise you should understand the revolt of the people and the middle class suffering from neo-capitalist robbery and fraud !!!!!!!!!!!!!
period you !

Originally posted by Section31
reply to post by gncnew

 

"OccupyWallStreet's" main goal is to get Obama re-elected. Regardless about everything else they are protesting against, "OccupyWallStreet's" over all existence is to help the Democrats win in 2012. Period.

Do you know what they will get for their effort? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Even though they may have the ability to get him back into office, they will get nothing in return for their efforts.

"OccupyWallStreet" is a tool for the Democrat party.

Nothing will change their fate.

edit on 10/5/2011 by Section31 because: (no reason given)

You are beyond ignorant. Those kids out there are fed up with this system, and that includes President Puppet Barack Obama.

You have no idea as to what you're talking about if you think that this has anything to do with the democrats. The protestors want the corporate money out of DC and that includes the Dems!! Educate yourself and stop spreading your stupidity

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman

 

So you know the political leanings of the protesters. Wow...impressive military mind you have.

If you were to look back into history you would know that revolution is not a young mans game, but a demand for justice and change from all ages, but only one socioeconomic class, the majority.

Your condescension does not serve your argument.

What do you speak of?

Yes, in the past, revolution was not. But, we are here and now.
Protests are for people that love the crowd.
Revolution, now, is for the young.
Now, what is meant by Revolution?
I think you and I are speaking a different dialect.

Having a hard time following along?

Take a look at the majority and you will see the revolution. Anyone really looking will see it's diversity.

Originally posted by Sunlionspirit

Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by ka119
reply to post by gncnew

 

Debbie Downer alert.

Well good for you, while you sit and do nothing, let these people try and change the world.
Enough with the negativity, reading your posts about all this is absolutely ridiculous. All you do is bitch and moan about how they aren't doing anything, well they are doing a hell of a lot more than you are, eh?

Stop it! You almost made me spit out my x-large coke as I was eating my super sized fries and big mac...

If I go to the rescue mission and feed 20 homeless men and women on a Wedensday night, but I do it very quietly.. .OR I go and spend a week in the park and chant "Down with Wall Street!" all day and night

Which path actually accomplished something? Intentions without results is useless and a waste. You'll learn this when you grow up.

are you kidding or what ??? you do help 20 homeless people ??? kidding of course because I do not belive you for a second !!
you are a fraud !
period.

Yep, there is the main flaw in Liberal thinking.
If it didn't come from the Govt, then it never happened.
A conservative sounding person has to be for starving the homeless.
Clueless.
I am ashamed for you.

Originally posted by circuitsports
here's how protests work -

I am black I want rights, I am white and I say no.

I am black and I am going to march for my rights, I am white and this is entertaining.

I am black and I will gather together with other blacks into groups to fight for my rights, i am white and now your militant terrorists.

I am black and your going to have to look over your shoulder everywhere you go, I am white ok here is your rights.

The one who wins any debate is the one who tops his competition. If you are going to fight the establishment and win you have to be willing to go farther than they will and it should be obvious that short or civil war or armed revolution major changes will never come.

People at the heads of these banks will call the police and let them handle it for them under rule of law.

You can't fight that with picket signs - ask people who protested nuclear testing or Vietnam or civil rights right up until the military had to be called in.

Or all of these Muslim countries that were oppressed for decades until they finally realized there is a price to be payed for change and it's not in markers and cardboard.

edit on 5-10-2011 by circuitsports because: (no reason given)

So to you - protesting "Greed" is like the Civil Rights movement?

My God if only it were that simple.... Civil Rights was like learning to spell cat whereas the problems this nation faces is like learning to do quantum theory algorithms.

Civil Rights != OWS in any way shape or form.

Originally posted by blair56

Please watch this video. Sean Hannity absolutely wrecks this poor poor little girl. I honestly believe the majority of the protesters are as "educated" as this woman. They clearly have no idea what they're talking about.

therightsideofkennebunk.blogspot.com...

here's the link if the video doesn't work.

edit on 5-10-2011 by blair56 because: (no reason given)

I don't even have to watch this. You single out one person and assume that to be everyone out there? That's real intelligent.

It amazes me how widespread the lack of an education is on here for some folks. Ungodly stupidity at its finest

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by macman

 

So you know the political leanings of the protesters. Wow...impressive military mind you have.

If you were to look back into history you would know that revolution is not a young mans game, but a demand for justice and change from all ages, but only one socioeconomic class, the majority.

Your condescension does not serve your argument.

FYI: you can tell their political leanings by two things:
1. Their age - the vast majority of under 30 align themselves Democrat
2. Their signs.. like strait out of the 2008 campaign for Obama.

The way i see it, The movement started on honest and genuine basis. That's why they never got the slightest MSM attention. But, after a while, they got infiltrated by the Obamanoid hippies and now they took over the whole movement and the likes of Michael Moore are "assuming" leadership. Michael Moore hasn't been there since day one, he just popped up when it was convenient for him. And now, all of a sudden, I'm watching a lot of reports on CNN regarding this "Movement".... Anyway, This has to be one of the many methods of controlling a rebellious movement, Infiltrate and then take over. Bunch of guitar playing, sign waving, chanting hippies are NOT the resistance."Love" won't save you this time. Get real.