The Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

reply to post by ugie1028


So then it still grew from tens to hundreds to couple thousand.

Originally posted by Cassius666
Good points, but about the poisoned food supply. When will the dying finally start?

Surely your not serious with that nonsense comment.
Money has shaped our supply of food that has been altered to meet shipping and storage demands.
The outcome is all around you.

WHERES THE HELLS THE LIST!!!

Originally posted by MissingRonnieR
It is not a media conspiracy. The truth is hard for some of you to swallow but the rest of the USA cares as much about N.Y.C. as you care about us. You may be the center of your own Universe but you are no more interesting than a Mississippi hand fisherman or an episode of COPS set in L.A. We do NOT CARE how your unemployed suido-hippies spend their free time, get over it.

BULL@#$%.

If 30 arabs half way around the world burn an American flag in front of an embassy it leads on all the major networks.

This is only the youth of the country massing at the seat of financial power that created this mess we are in now.

Yeah, nothing to see here.

Only the beginnings of a revolution, which I guess won't be televised after all.

reply to post by jpuniue


I am aware of why my fellow citizens are out there. It's not a matter of not supporting them. It's there safety and the TPTB behind it all that worries me. So in case you have not noticed, I am concerned for everyone's safety more than anything. Not for them being there. It's my opinion that there safety is compromised due to some very well layed out ulterior motives behind the scenes though.

reply to post by deadeyedick


over the past couple of weeks yes... today a LOT of people showed up, but not thousands of people. if there were thousands of people there, they wouldn't of fit in that park.

reply to post by jenk1013


I am not one of those people. Those folks are out there laying it on the line because they believe and know that change must be made. I think most of them don't really see who is behind initiated this and taking advantage of concerned American's best interests in the process. I have a right to worry about my fellow Americans in such volatile times.

Originally posted by ugie1028
reply to post by deadeyedick

 

over the past couple of weeks yes... today a LOT of people showed up, but not thousands of people. if there were thousands of people there, they wouldn't of fit in that park.

More people there today because they heard there was going
to be a *free* radiohead concert actually..

Originally posted by AGWskeptic

Originally posted by MissingRonnieR
It is not a media conspiracy. The truth is hard for some of you to swallow but the rest of the USA cares as much about N.Y.C. as you care about us. You may be the center of your own Universe but you are no more interesting than a Mississippi hand fisherman or an episode of COPS set in L.A. We do NOT CARE how your unemployed suido-hippies spend their free time, get over it.

BULL@#$%.

If 30 arabs half way around the world burn an American flag in front of an embassy it leads on all the major networks.

This is only the youth of the country massing at the seat of financial power that created this mess we are in now.

Yeah, nothing to see here.

Only the beginnings of a revolution, which I guess won't be televised after all.

I agree with you that this should be getting more press. A lot more. I also agree that our country has problems and we have high unemployment and things don't look too chipper for our young right now. However, we can't equate this with the Arab Spring. What, of the things that the Arab Spring protests sought, do we not have now? At least in theory if not in fact, our country is better now than the Arab Spring nations have yet to hope to be, even given all our problems. And, at the root of it, that is why this protest will not fly.

Unions will restrengthen in this country as a result of the political and economic events of the last couple of years.
There will at some point be closer scrutiny paid to who is paying to get our politicians elected.
Someday there will be real campaign finance reform.

But, unless the powers that be throw the majority of the country a huge middle finger of some sort, revolution isn't coming here anytime soon. Things aren't bad enough yet.

May they never be.

Although I didn't bother reviewing their demands - since those are never met, I must say it is easy to agree with four or five of their grievances, and I'm betting most of us can say the same. I believe since the propaganda of college education was crammed down the throats of millions of people otherwise perfectly happy to drop out or settle on a high school diploma, it isn't unreasonable to demand the millions socially pressured by corporate ads, misinformation, and government lies to have their debts expunged.

The logic flow is as follows:
Children are told they need food, clothing, and shelter to live.
Adolescents are told when they become "adults" they must leave home and get jobs
high school students are told in order to get a job they must get a college education

the opposite of live is to die. Ergo, children are told if they do not get a college degree they will die of starvation while homeless and unemployed, by their schools, their parents, and the media.

reply to post by skynet2015


I am as eager to be done with my student loans as anybody else, but I took on the loans. I have a responsibility to pay them because I made the decsion. The same is true of every other person that has them. Maybe we don't need to get so many to go to college. But we don't need so many people to wear brand name clothes either. We don't get to take them back to the store and get our money back just because we realize now that a no name hoodie is just as warm...we can't blame advertising for all of our problems. We made the choice. We need to deal with it. There are many problems in this country. But the most pressing is personal responibility and the increasing lack thereof.

It's nice that SOMETHING is happening other than people sitting in front of their TVs, but this "peaceful protest" will not accomplish a !@$# thing. The criminals in the government, the criminals running corporations and the criminals they have purchased in the "justice" system will never be stopped through peaceful means. THEY CANNOT BE because the system we have in place to DO such a thing IS WHAT HAS BEEN CORRUPTED. Do you not see the inherent problem in that??? Who are you going to take to court when judges are bought and sold? What laws are you going to pass when congressmen are bought and sold? THIS WILL NOT CHANGE without violent, bloody revolution. I pray it begins here.

anybody know why the occupy wallstreet facebook page dont work ?

Originally posted by AGWskeptic
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

If our system was capitalism you might have a point.

But alas it is not.

We are under a system of corporatism , in capitalism competition is healthy and needed,

Monopolistic competition is part of the Capitalist system. I think what you mean is that we are not operating under a true Free Market economy because too many corporations have become monopolistic. But the arguments Karl Marx and the communists had against Capitalism were before the advent of the giant megalithic corporations we see now. I would agree that we have lost the true feeling of free enterprise, because the little guy cannot compete with the megalithic corporate giants. But when govt interferes, we lose the freedom, then it just becomes Totalitarian. And who did that? Hitler and Mussolini.

The problem I have is that socialists are trying to use this as a pretext for getting rid of capitalism altogether. The big socialists like Soros will keep their money they made off the capitalist system and everyone else will be walking around with brown caps and shirts. Sorry but the spectre of the robot proletariat just chills me to the bone.

reply to post by TheThirdAdam


I agree with you. It seems everyone has forgotten the Spanish Civil War where the Bolshevik Communists tried to take over yet another country via the trade unions and 'pro- the people' organisations. This violent, dangerous group riles the working-classes by pushing false ideals that sound oh so wonderful in the beginning. They fool non-thinkers who don't realise how it will all be twisted ultimately to suit their own plan for a totalitarian police state. George Orwell summed it up in his book 'Animal Farm'. Basically the people are conned into making a revolution but they are too idealistic and naive - therefore allowing a bunch of lying pigs to make a counter-revolution and take over themselves. Remember how Castro promised free elections in Cuba?? How Che Guevara tried to push for revolutions in South America helped by his highly suspicious Argentinian Bolshevik contact in Buenos Aires? You're not telling me that Bolshevik Trotsky who died not so very long before was in Mexico for no reason! And now we have riots and revolutions going on all over the world... is it all a big coincidence? Is the 'economic crisis' a big coincidence - or rather a clever plan to push people into poverty and over the edge??

No revolution will ever, ever be successful until the people of the world first recognise that there exists a very dangerous and very devious network of people who are intent on using our ignorance for their own gain.

Howdy all. First post from a normally lurking Texan. Out of curiosity I googled "occupy Dallas" and amazingly there's going to be an event on October 6th. I can't imagine there will be a big turnout for something like this in Texas but I'm going to look into it further and hopefully take part. Apparently they'll be marching from Pike Park to the Federal Reserve Bank.

Originally posted by MissingRonnieR
It is not a media conspiracy. The truth is hard for some of you to swallow but the rest of the USA cares as much about N.Y.C. as you care about us. You may be the center of your own Universe but you are no more interesting than a Mississippi hand fisherman or an episode of COPS set in L.A. We do NOT CARE how your unemployed suido-hippies spend their free time, get over it.

That's the best post of this thread!
NO ONE CARES, AT ALL.. DEAL WITH IT.

Originally posted by Observer99
It's nice that SOMETHING is happening other than people sitting in front of their TVs, but this "peaceful protest" will not accomplish a !@$# thing. The criminals in the government, the criminals running corporations and the criminals they have purchased in the "justice" system will never be stopped through peaceful means. THEY CANNOT BE because the system we have in place to DO such a thing IS WHAT HAS BEEN CORRUPTED. Do you not see the inherent problem in that??? Who are you going to take to court when judges are bought and sold? What laws are you going to pass when congressmen are bought and sold? THIS WILL NOT CHANGE without violent, bloody revolution. I pray it begins here.

It wont...few nutjobs march every year.
"Revolution Bla bla bla".
They talk #, then go home...
Nothing will happen. Don't hold your breath cause I guarantee it. Nothing will happen.

Way to pray for death and violence btw..
This is not Iran.

Your lil handgun wont do much here. Don't forget what country you are in.

The times they are changing. I cannot wait for the revolution in michigan

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by Screwed

 

Oh here we go, Mr. Citizen of the World.

Labels are important, just like categories; they help identify who you are. If you let them define you, well that is wrong, but if you achieve that label through personal exploration then who is it hurting?

I am Human, American, Floridian, conservative, Christian, white, male, etc… it is a way of identifying who you are within a larger makeup. If you let these categories define you, then yes that is a problem, but I do not. Things are Left and Right, just as they are black and white, up and down, etc…

You sure do let these categories define you just by saying you can't agree with something because you are "conservative". Isnt that it or i misunderstood you?

I personally think the political labels should go away.

You say you are conservative, but don't you think every other party have good things in them? And also that conservative is not all pink and cute? I think you should take the ideas you like in any party and dont label yourself as any of them.

Peace out.