Racial tensions in Philly: Mob attacks man in his house - 'We got you, you white mother-------!'

Originally posted by MasterGemini


I said the I, as in ME, predict that as the Democrats continure screaming racism at anyone and everything these sort of events will increase in frequency.

They have planted the idea in the heads of their constituents that groups like the Tea Party are trying to "See them hang" or " Put them back in slavery."

Just you wait for the election . . .

They will continue to increase in frequency as the ranks of the poor continue to increase. It has nothing to do with Democrats. You assume these people even watch the news and hear the crap Obama has to say. These are the acts of the poor and uneducated. Tribalism is one ways the poor survive. You are exhibiting some of that behavior yourself.

Far be it from to rain on your Republican race-war wet dream though.

Originally posted by MasterGemini
It is sad to hear about things like this, but I predict more and more as the Democrats continue their race baiting.

And here I was about to star and flag...

...But you're clearly just trying to create a partisan wedge.

Political trolling.

This has much more to do with lack of education and employment than "democratic conditioning".

Give me a break.

Quit wagging your finger at a specific political party and blaming them for everything.

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why didn't he have a gun to defend himself? As soon as that mob kicked in my door they would have become bodies instead of people. I will never understand why people allow themselves to be victimized.

I agree with you 210%, this right here is reason #6,472 why I have a permit to carry, and carry a gun with me everywhere. It's sad that people have to live in fear. My house was robbed 3 years ago while my wife and kids were at home, and I was at work. The man already had my wife at gunpoint while she was sleeping so she had no chance to get the other gun out. If I had been there, there would have been a chalk line on my dining room floor. "Refuse to be a victim" I live by that. These people are damn lucky this guy wasnt armed.

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why didn't he have a gun to defend himself? As soon as that mob kicked in my door they would have become bodies instead of people. I will never understand why people allow themselves to be victimized.

Nnnoo.. Remember the third man, the one with the gun? I think, one of the bodies would be yours. Even if you shot (and killed) them all, what about their friends? Or relatives? Do you think, the loop of force would stop spontanously?

I am quite sure that every force used by the houseowner would be countered by more force. And then there is the problem that the attackers know EXACTLY where to find the houseowner - he on the contrary doesn't know where to look for them. That gives them the advantage of a surprise-attack.


Therefore: to defend with lethal weapons is a far more dangerous way than being bashed up and let the police do their job. The police fails to find them? Well, you should better prepare some means of evidence - install a webcam in your frontdoor, store the files online (cloud or whatever), send perfect pictures of the attackers to the police. Problem solved.

Originally posted by gunshooter

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why didn't he have a gun to defend himself? As soon as that mob kicked in my door they would have become bodies instead of people. I will never understand why people allow themselves to be victimized.

I agree with you 210%, this right here is reason #6,472 why I have a permit to carry, and carry a gun with me everywhere. It's sad that people have to live in fear. My house was robbed 3 years ago while my wife and kids were at home, and I was at work. The man already had my wife at gunpoint while she was sleeping so she had no chance to get the other gun out. If I had been there, there would have been a chalk line on my dining room floor. "Refuse to be a victim" I live by that. These people are damn lucky this guy wasnt armed.

BTW, to hell with that race crap. people are so ignorant it's sickening. and really? adults with weapons were going to beat these kids? They all deserve a bullet just for that alone.

Originally posted by TinkerHaus
reply to post by MasterGemini

 

No, no, and no.

I'm just some guy who registered an account today, saw your post, noted it's ridiculousness, and commented.

So can we blame the Republican Party for brainwashing people into seeing things a certain way, without proof, without merit, simply to bloody the eye of the opposing party? Race issues have existed in this country since it's founding, in case you didn't take 4th grade US History.. Why is it a political party's fault all of a sudden? This is a classic example of taking a VALID argument out of context and framing it as something it most definitely isn't.

Calling it something it isn't is irresponsible and only happens to serve an alternate agenda. You know it and I know it and anyone with a few live brain cells in their head knows it as well.

So please, answer me this; Is it the GOPs fault that so many righties see everything in black and white with no shades of gray? Is it the GOPs fault that during an

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in this country are framed in this manner? Who's fault is that?

No, its totally off topic.

LoL I have no idea what has you so upset about someone sharing their opinion and prediction.

election period stories like this that happen EVERY DAY

Feel free to provide any evidence you can procure . . . . otherwise get lost.

Originally posted by blocula
instead of trying to police the whole world. thousands of our military should be called back to the usa. then they should systematically clear out the morons and psychopaths,one city at a time. patrol through them in amored personnel carriers and use deadly force if nessessary and round up all these punk gang members and get them off of our streets and away from the innocent, hard working people...

but crime is "big business" in the usa...so it's not gonna happen...

whatever the race or color of these punk gangs members.it does'nt matter..get rid of them and stop the violence and killing of innocent men,women and children..

but if that was done and we could do it 'if we really wanted to"...a lot of people would be out of a job...if there were not any morons, psychopaths and mental defectives roaming the streets. what would the dea, fbi, cops, prosecuters, lawyers, judges,ect,ect,ect do then?

Originally posted by gunshooter

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why didn't he have a gun to defend himself? As soon as that mob kicked in my door they would have become bodies instead of people. I will never understand why people allow themselves to be victimized.

I agree with you 210%, this right here is reason #6,472 why I have a permit to carry, and carry a gun with me everywhere. It's sad that people have to live in fear. My house was robbed 3 years ago while my wife and kids were at home, and I was at work. The man already had my wife at gunpoint while she was sleeping so she had no chance to get the other gun out. If I had been there, there would have been a chalk line on my dining room floor. "Refuse to be a victim" I live by that. These people are damn lucky this guy wasnt armed.

Yepp, and your wife would propably be dead by now. How would you have solved the puzzle with his gun to your wifes head? Shoot him? He could have shot your wife with the last breath. I don't think I would hesitate to let him have my belongings as long as he wouldn't hurt my beloved ones. Items are insured and can be replaced. My family not.

Originally posted by illuminatislave
This is why the 2nd Amendment is in place. The police cannot protect you when madness begins. Just imagine if SHTF, and you have flash mobs busting into your home for your supplies.

You cannot hesitate. People are losing their minds.

Those guys are lucky. An AR-15 could have had them running for their lives.

A good shooter behind an AR running it smooth? I doubt they would've been........(running).....for their lives!!

I sent this story to drudge and they put it up about 10 minutes later!

reply to post by blocula


Mental Defectives? Do you mean mentally handicapped people?

Originally posted by ManFromEurope

Originally posted by gunshooter

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why didn't he have a gun to defend himself? As soon as that mob kicked in my door they would have become bodies instead of people. I will never understand why people allow themselves to be victimized.

I agree with you 210%, this right here is reason #6,472 why I have a permit to carry, and carry a gun with me everywhere. It's sad that people have to live in fear. My house was robbed 3 years ago while my wife and kids were at home, and I was at work. The man already had my wife at gunpoint while she was sleeping so she had no chance to get the other gun out. If I had been there, there would have been a chalk line on my dining room floor. "Refuse to be a victim" I live by that. These people are damn lucky this guy wasnt armed.

Yepp, and your wife would propably be dead by now. How would you have solved the puzzle with his gun to your wifes head? Shoot him? He could have shot your wife with the last breath. I don't think I would hesitate to let him have my belongings as long as he wouldn't hurt my beloved ones. Items are insured and can be replaced. My family not.

not so fast slick. I stay up past midnight every night, she was asleep at 9:30, I would have been up for sure to meet this guy at the window. YOUR NOT GETTING THE PICTURE OBVIOUSLY. I guess I have to explain things in detail. If I had been there, this guy would not have had the chance to do half the # he did. YOU FOLLOW? OR DO I HAVE TO BUST OUT THE CRAYONS AND CONSTRUCTION PAPER................

reply to post by MasterGemini


Wonderful how you can't answer without incriminating yourself so you claim it's "off topic."

Well, it's part of the discussion about political parties framing the news to suit their agenda, so it's very ON topic.

As for giving you proof - Well, you obviously don't spend much time reading the news or you wouldn't be asking me to prove something that's so obviously prominent in our media. Black on white crime, white on black crime, poor on rich crime, etc.. It happens ALL THE TIME. So any time someone who's living below poverty commits a crime against a middle class person it's politically motivated?

You're trying to be slippery but I and I'm sure others see through the ruse. You got called out and have been revealed, now you are back-peddling and hiding among these little rituals "provide proof or get out!"

Answer my question please: Are all crimes committed by one race against another political or just this one? Can you please explain to us what makes this a politically motivated or politically inspired crime while other similar crimes are not? Please provide YOUR proof.

reply to post by MasterGemini

Should have shot ever one of the people that entered his house.
No excuse for this crap.

NONE.

Originally posted by Drew99GT
I don't know Pennsylvania's laws, but some states have very draconian self defense laws. Even if you shoot and kill someone in self defense, you'll be charged with murder.

Thankfully other states like Texas have make my day laws that give criminal and civil defense to using deadly force against an attack in your own home.

Pa just enhanced its Castle Doctrine law so a person has no duty to flee before resorting to lethal force to protect their property and they are allowed to protect their homes, even from intruders not yet inside the house.

Now politicians in Pennsylvania have latched on a new gimmick: a law called “stand your ground” that allows people to use lethal force to defend their homes from the outside.

Legislators voted 4-1 in favor of the law allowing people to use lethal force to defend themselves without retreat. Rep. Michelle Brooks, R-Mercer County insists “Law abiding citizens have a right to protect their property and their families. We have to send a strong message to criminals that ‘if you break the law we are going to defend ourselves.’”

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what makes this even more ridiculous is the fact that this whole thing started when some white kids laughed at a black kid who fell off a bike (although some claim he was pushed off). This is as bad as that AK-47 attack against a SEPTA bus a few weeks back. I don't know where people are getting this mob justice mentality for such petty offences.

reply to post by TinkerHaus


Go find a mirror and argue with yourself.

Or you can go to the political forum where people will be happy to argue hypothetical situations without any supporting evidence.

Or you can learn what an opinion is, its called free speech. I even edited the first post to make it extra clear that it is my opinion, not stated in the article.

I don't care either way.

Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by blocula

 

Mental Defectives? Do you mean mentally handicapped people?

every serial killer ever examined has had some kind of pre-frontal lobe damage to his or her brain and combine that with their illicit drug use and an insufficient justice system that allows them to roam the streets amongst innocent children.....unbelievable!

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by blocula

 

Mental Defectives? Do you mean mentally handicapped people?

every serial killer ever examined has had some kind of pre-frontal lobe damage to his or her brain and combine that with ther illicit drug use and an insufficient justice system that allows them to roam the streets amongs innocent children.....unbelievable!

Oh ok, well, you know there are probably people running around with such damage who have never hurt anyone so I think it's a bit much to say kill all of them. But then again I have ADHD so I guess I'm biased.

reply to post by FortAnthem


It's a spontaneous thing - Something happens, a group or community or "tribe" wants instant justice..

It's not political and it's not inspired by anything other than human nature. It's a sad reality, but better dealt with when recognized for what it is, and not used by some frantically grasping individual or group to further ulterior motives.

I normally am very anti-violence but in a situation where I felt my family was in danger I too would probably be quick to start kicking ass and asking questions later. The victim in this story displayed a calm and rational character that should be commended - no one so far is seriously injured and people now have an opportunity to learn from the incident. As an earlier poster commented in this thread, had he shot his attackers his family would most certainly be in immediate danger. This guy should be commended for his level-headedness.

Originally posted by gunshooter

Originally posted by ManFromEurope

Originally posted by gunshooter

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why didn't he have a gun to defend himself? As soon as that mob kicked in my door they would have become bodies instead of people. I will never understand why people allow themselves to be victimized.

I agree with you 210%, this right here is reason #6,472 why I have a permit to carry, and carry a gun with me everywhere. It's sad that people have to live in fear. My house was robbed 3 years ago while my wife and kids were at home, and I was at work. The man already had my wife at gunpoint while she was sleeping so she had no chance to get the other gun out. If I had been there, there would have been a chalk line on my dining room floor. "Refuse to be a victim" I live by that. These people are damn lucky this guy wasnt armed.

Yepp, and your wife would propably be dead by now. How would you have solved the puzzle with his gun to your wifes head? Shoot him? He could have shot your wife with the last breath. I don't think I would hesitate to let him have my belongings as long as he wouldn't hurt my beloved ones. Items are insured and can be replaced. My family not.

not so fast slick. I stay up past midnight every night, she was asleep at 9:30, I would have been up for sure to meet this guy at the window. YOUR NOT GETTING THE PICTURE OBVIOUSLY. I guess I have to explain things in detail. If I had been there, this guy would not have had the chance to do half the # he did. YOU FOLLOW? OR DO I HAVE TO BUST OUT THE CRAYONS AND CONSTRUCTION PAPER................

Don't worry, I get the picture. You are waiting by the door, gun in your hand and as soon as the door opens, you shoot in the general direction of the door, hitting him directly between the eyes.

Or another picture - he opens your front door (he didn't bash it in, or your family would have waken up by the sound) and steps inside. You are in your bed. Reading or whatever. He silently moves through your house. You hear a noise - what now? Could be the kids, maybe heading for the toilet. Do you pull a gun out of the next drawer?


Well, maybe you should draw a picture. I'm not sure how the situation works out in your mind.
In my mind I see a lot of chaos with a high probability of bloodshed. Yours? His? Your familys?