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Originally posted by KevinB
Ha, if this had happened to me in MY house, they wouldn't have ever gotten past the front door. As for the guy with the pistol, I'm accurate out to 130 yards, he is maybe accurate at 20 but he's also a black gangster so the chances he just sprayfires like a baby playing call of duty is very likely. This guy has no one to blame but himself. If you don't want to be assaulted by gangsters and thugs, buy a damn good gun and learn how to use it with military precision. I guarantee if this guy was a marine, all of them would be dead and the marine would have himself a shiny new pistol
Originally posted by MasterGemini
It is sad to hear about things like this, but . . .
I predict more and more as the Democrats continue their race baiting rhetoric.
Originally posted by TinkerHaus
reply to post by MasterGemini
now I'm just ready to dismiss you and throw you in the "not worth my time" bin. It's obvious you are stuck in your methods of analyzing events, and will always have a finger ready to point at who you believe is at fault, no matter how obscure or even non existent the evidence may be.
Throughout human history one group thinks they are better than another
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why didn't he have a gun to defend himself? As soon as that mob kicked in my door they would have become bodies instead of people. I will never understand why people allow themselves to be victimized.
I agree with you 210%, this right here is reason #6,472 why I have a permit to carry, and carry a gun with me everywhere. It's sad that people have to live in fear. My house was robbed 3 years ago while my wife and kids were at home, and I was at work. The man already had my wife at gunpoint while she was sleeping so she had no chance to get the other gun out. If I had been there, there would have been a chalk line on my dining room floor. "Refuse to be a victim" I live by that. These people are damn lucky this guy wasnt armed.
Yepp, and your wife would propably be dead by now. How would you have solved the puzzle with his gun to your wifes head? Shoot him? He could have shot your wife with the last breath. I don't think I would hesitate to let him have my belongings as long as he wouldn't hurt my beloved ones. Items are insured and can be replaced. My family not.
not so fast slick. I stay up past midnight every night, she was asleep at 9:30, I would have been up for sure to meet this guy at the window. YOUR NOT GETTING THE PICTURE OBVIOUSLY. I guess I have to explain things in detail. If I had been there, this guy would not have had the chance to do half the # he did. YOU FOLLOW? OR DO I HAVE TO BUST OUT THE CRAYONS AND CONSTRUCTION PAPER................
Don't worry, I get the picture. You are waiting by the door, gun in your hand and as soon as the door opens, you shoot in the general direction of the door, hitting him directly between the eyes.
Or another picture - he opens your front door (he didn't bash it in, or your family would have waken up by the sound) and steps inside. You are in your bed. Reading or whatever. He silently moves through your house. You hear a noise - what now? Could be the kids, maybe heading for the toilet. Do you pull a gun out of the next drawer?
Well, maybe you should draw a picture. I'm not sure how the situation works out in your mind.
In my mind I see a lot of chaos with a high probability of bloodshed. Yours? His? Your familys?
Originally posted by gougitousakusha
reply to post by ManFromEurope
born and raised in philly, i know a guy that keeps a shotgun under the couch and pistol at his side. hes had people breaking in his windows and it only took a warning shot to stop it, no one will mess with him anymore because he loves his guns. your being overly pessimistic.
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why didn't he have a gun to defend himself? As soon as that mob kicked in my door they would have become bodies instead of people. I will never understand why people allow themselves to be victimized.
I agree with you 210%, this right here is reason #6,472 why I have a permit to carry, and carry a gun with me everywhere. It's sad that people have to live in fear. My house was robbed 3 years ago while my wife and kids were at home, and I was at work. The man already had my wife at gunpoint while she was sleeping so she had no chance to get the other gun out. If I had been there, there would have been a chalk line on my dining room floor. "Refuse to be a victim" I live by that. These people are damn lucky this guy wasnt armed.
Yepp, and your wife would propably be dead by now. How would you have solved the puzzle with his gun to your wifes head? Shoot him? He could have shot your wife with the last breath. I don't think I would hesitate to let him have my belongings as long as he wouldn't hurt my beloved ones. Items are insured and can be replaced. My family not.
not so fast slick. I stay up past midnight every night, she was asleep at 9:30, I would have been up for sure to meet this guy at the window. YOUR NOT GETTING THE PICTURE OBVIOUSLY. I guess I have to explain things in detail. If I had been there, this guy would not have had the chance to do half the # he did. YOU FOLLOW? OR DO I HAVE TO BUST OUT THE CRAYONS AND CONSTRUCTION PAPER................
Don't worry, I get the picture. You are waiting by the door, gun in your hand and as soon as the door opens, you shoot in the general direction of the door, hitting him directly between the eyes.
Or another picture - he opens your front door (he didn't bash it in, or your family would have waken up by the sound) and steps inside. You are in your bed. Reading or whatever. He silently moves through your house. You hear a noise - what now? Could be the kids, maybe heading for the toilet. Do you pull a gun out of the next drawer?
Well, maybe you should draw a picture. I'm not sure how the situation works out in your mind.
In my mind I see a lot of chaos with a high probability of bloodshed. Yours? His? Your familys?
I'm a light sleeper, dont go to sleep until late, and check every noise I hear. I guess thats my curse of being a 12 year Air Force TACP vet. (so I guess that would make me a good shot too, and not just shooting in the general direction.)
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why didn't he have a gun to defend himself? As soon as that mob kicked in my door they would have become bodies instead of people. I will never understand why people allow themselves to be victimized.
I agree with you 210%, this right here is reason #6,472 why I have a permit to carry, and carry a gun with me everywhere. It's sad that people have to live in fear. My house was robbed 3 years ago while my wife and kids were at home, and I was at work. The man already had my wife at gunpoint while she was sleeping so she had no chance to get the other gun out. If I had been there, there would have been a chalk line on my dining room floor. "Refuse to be a victim" I live by that. These people are damn lucky this guy wasnt armed.
Yepp, and your wife would propably be dead by now. How would you have solved the puzzle with his gun to your wifes head? Shoot him? He could have shot your wife with the last breath. I don't think I would hesitate to let him have my belongings as long as he wouldn't hurt my beloved ones. Items are insured and can be replaced. My family not.
not so fast slick. I stay up past midnight every night, she was asleep at 9:30, I would have been up for sure to meet this guy at the window. YOUR NOT GETTING THE PICTURE OBVIOUSLY. I guess I have to explain things in detail. If I had been there, this guy would not have had the chance to do half the # he did. YOU FOLLOW? OR DO I HAVE TO BUST OUT THE CRAYONS AND CONSTRUCTION PAPER................
Don't worry, I get the picture. You are waiting by the door, gun in your hand and as soon as the door opens, you shoot in the general direction of the door, hitting him directly between the eyes.
Or another picture - he opens your front door (he didn't bash it in, or your family would have waken up by the sound) and steps inside. You are in your bed. Reading or whatever. He silently moves through your house. You hear a noise - what now? Could be the kids, maybe heading for the toilet. Do you pull a gun out of the next drawer?
Well, maybe you should draw a picture. I'm not sure how the situation works out in your mind.
In my mind I see a lot of chaos with a high probability of bloodshed. Yours? His? Your familys?
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why didn't he have a gun to defend himself? As soon as that mob kicked in my door they would have become bodies instead of people. I will never understand why people allow themselves to be victimized.
I agree with you 210%, this right here is reason #6,472 why I have a permit to carry, and carry a gun with me everywhere. It's sad that people have to live in fear. My house was robbed 3 years ago while my wife and kids were at home, and I was at work. The man already had my wife at gunpoint while she was sleeping so she had no chance to get the other gun out. If I had been there, there would have been a chalk line on my dining room floor. "Refuse to be a victim" I live by that. These people are damn lucky this guy wasnt armed.
Yepp, and your wife would propably be dead by now. How would you have solved the puzzle with his gun to your wifes head? Shoot him? He could have shot your wife with the last breath. I don't think I would hesitate to let him have my belongings as long as he wouldn't hurt my beloved ones. Items are insured and can be replaced. My family not.
not so fast slick. I stay up past midnight every night, she was asleep at 9:30, I would have been up for sure to meet this guy at the window. YOUR NOT GETTING THE PICTURE OBVIOUSLY. I guess I have to explain things in detail. If I had been there, this guy would not have had the chance to do half the # he did. YOU FOLLOW? OR DO I HAVE TO BUST OUT THE CRAYONS AND CONSTRUCTION PAPER................
Don't worry, I get the picture. You are waiting by the door, gun in your hand and as soon as the door opens, you shoot in the general direction of the door, hitting him directly between the eyes.
Or another picture - he opens your front door (he didn't bash it in, or your family would have waken up by the sound) and steps inside. You are in your bed. Reading or whatever. He silently moves through your house. You hear a noise - what now? Could be the kids, maybe heading for the toilet. Do you pull a gun out of the next drawer?
Well, maybe you should draw a picture. I'm not sure how the situation works out in your mind.
In my mind I see a lot of chaos with a high probability of bloodshed. Yours? His? Your familys?
I'm a light sleeper, dont go to sleep until late, and check every noise I hear. I guess thats my curse of being a 12 year Air Force TACP vet. (so I guess that would make me a good shot too, and not just shooting in the general direction.)
Okay, now you have every possible advantage. Under these circumstances I give up, you may defend your home.. But you should honestly admit that not everyone can be so prepared, right?
Originally posted by BadNinja68
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why didn't he have a gun to defend himself? As soon as that mob kicked in my door they would have become bodies instead of people. I will never understand why people allow themselves to be victimized.
I agree with you 210%, this right here is reason #6,472 why I have a permit to carry, and carry a gun with me everywhere. It's sad that people have to live in fear. My house was robbed 3 years ago while my wife and kids were at home, and I was at work. The man already had my wife at gunpoint while she was sleeping so she had no chance to get the other gun out. If I had been there, there would have been a chalk line on my dining room floor. "Refuse to be a victim" I live by that. These people are damn lucky this guy wasnt armed.
Yepp, and your wife would propably be dead by now. How would you have solved the puzzle with his gun to your wifes head? Shoot him? He could have shot your wife with the last breath. I don't think I would hesitate to let him have my belongings as long as he wouldn't hurt my beloved ones. Items are insured and can be replaced. My family not.
not so fast slick. I stay up past midnight every night, she was asleep at 9:30, I would have been up for sure to meet this guy at the window. YOUR NOT GETTING THE PICTURE OBVIOUSLY. I guess I have to explain things in detail. If I had been there, this guy would not have had the chance to do half the # he did. YOU FOLLOW? OR DO I HAVE TO BUST OUT THE CRAYONS AND CONSTRUCTION PAPER................
Don't worry, I get the picture. You are waiting by the door, gun in your hand and as soon as the door opens, you shoot in the general direction of the door, hitting him directly between the eyes.
Or another picture - he opens your front door (he didn't bash it in, or your family would have waken up by the sound) and steps inside. You are in your bed. Reading or whatever. He silently moves through your house. You hear a noise - what now? Could be the kids, maybe heading for the toilet. Do you pull a gun out of the next drawer?
Well, maybe you should draw a picture. I'm not sure how the situation works out in your mind.
In my mind I see a lot of chaos with a high probability of bloodshed. Yours? His? Your familys?
Funny how all the people theorizing on what MIGHT happen have obviously never been in that type of situation.
They assume burglars are pro's and home owners with guns are inept ignorant idiopts that cant use their weapon.
That's a fatal mistake many crooks make.
From experience, it USUALLY ends with a dead burglar.
How many reports have you heard of an ARMED victim getting shot?
I think you should look at facts.
Armed "victims" rarely get shot... usually it's the dumb crook who thought armed robbery was an easier way to get paiud than a job.
Thye already arent very smart...and are usually desparate and not thinking clearly.. that's why they end up in a body bag.
IMHO, it's better to have a gun for defense and not need it, than to need one and not have it.
I predict more and more as the Democrats continue their race baiting rhetoric.edit on 27-9-2011 by MasterGemini because: wha wha wha cry about it
Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Originally posted by gougitousakusha
reply to post by ManFromEurope
born and raised in philly, i know a guy that keeps a shotgun under the couch and pistol at his side. hes had people breaking in his windows and it only took a warning shot to stop it, no one will mess with him anymore because he loves his guns. your being overly pessimistic.
There's a thing I can't understand - weapons within reach without safety measures. I have little kids, I wouldn't leave arms laying around. If the overall situation in the neigborhood is as bad that I would have to sleep with a loaded gun under my cushion, well, I would move..