Anonymous Leaks Personal Details of Cop Who Pepper-Sprayed Wall Street Protesters

reply to post by Section31


oh now i have to disagree with this.
anything that causes suffering and pain is violent.

Bologna is the perfect name for a cop. Either that or Salt Pork.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Section31

 

oh now i have to disagree with this.
anything that causes suffering and pain is violent.

Repeating my question:
Did you or anyone else notice that the protestors are blocking the doors to privately owned establishments?

What about the rights of the customers and shop owners? Do consumers have a right to shop peacefully and freely? Do shop owners have a right to protect their companies from potential rioting, theft, or damage?

While these protestors are exercising their rights, they are stomping on the rights of other individuals.

reply to post by mudbeed


you're kidding me right? You are that ignorant as to who anonymous is? They are either a set up counter operation for the cia or they are a group of operatives whom do not agree with the overall cia agenda and vision for america and the world (as clearly it is corrupt, and yes there is a division that exists in the intelligence community).

The ddos guys are script kiddie wanna bees, mosquitos used as pawns for a distraction while the real anonymous fires up rdos attacks. Even the advanced script kiddies employing botnets are nothing compared to the rdos attack issued by a single relay to remotely manage the routing equipment by requesting a status update and by sending lots of requests this can bog a network down with pinpoint accuracy as to which components are brought down.

Either way, some of the members of anonymous have "spook" written all over them and undoubtedly there are spooks hiding amongst their core groups, unless they know the CIA very very well (and how does one get that? Hacking ain't enough actual involvement with them is).

Anonymous might be what is necessary to spark the collapse of the system, so that we come crawling back to the elites for the solution to the problems stemming from the collapse which they will offer world government for. What we mustn't lose sight of is that we want a world government that has localities that can trump the the state, trump the nation, and trump the world. This way we retain our freedom. Their solution will have a powerful world government dictating micromanagement to everyone on earth.

reply to post by jpuniue


I can give you a star for that. That's why it was a white shirt doing the spraying. If the police thought the crowd was any sort of threat they would still be dressed in riot gear.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Section31

 

oh now i have to disagree with this.
anything that causes suffering and pain is violent.

Soo.... Wall Street is violent.

Self defense.

Originally posted by TheLastStand
reply to post by mudbeed

 

you're kidding me right? You are that ignorant as to who anonymous is? They are either a set up counter operation for the cia or they are a group of operatives whom do not agree with the overall cia agenda and vision for america and the world (as clearly it is corrupt, and yes there is a division that exists in the intelligence community).

Close, but not quite.


No LEO from this point forward shall be obliged to reveal either their badge numbers, or personal identities.

Anonymous Law Enforcers only from now on.

See, maybe they are right... Everyone really can be Anonymous.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Partisanity

 

this is the same concept as saying it's okay to lynch mob a black guy's family because the black guy did something wrong. when are you going to figure out how bad this idea is? it is a bad idea. you don't target whole groups of people to pay for the actions of one person

Who said I support attacking his family? I'm just saying, don't go wagging your fingers at Anon if it happens, it's 100% this cops fault if something happens to his family. Anon just wanted to send pizzas, it's kind of what they're famous for. "What don't you get"?

If... the machine of government... is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law. ~Henry David Thoreau, On the Duty of Civil Disobediance, 1849

This is the Revolution we have been talking about for decades. This is what revolution looks like. The Hooligans are the bare branches that light the spark. The hippies are the catalyst. Anonymous is the new non-face of change in a society that intends to track and control every aspect of human existence. It is born from the technology designed to subjugate. Injustice is necessary to counter injustice. police brutality may require a pound of flesh, that might deter future incidents of brutality. The government is used to this playing field. Its the American way. Stop whining and get off the couch. Start a fight. Join a cause. Take up the banner and start walking your talk.

The Revolution has begun. Join it. Or shut up.

reply to post by Section31


why does everyone, on both sides of this issue, misquote me or mistranslate what i'm saying or imply things i clearly don't mean. no i don't think they should be blocking the door. were they? to me, it just looked like people on the sidewalk. i've seen videos of new york sidewalks where it didn't look like you could fit a soda bottle between the bodies there were so many people on them all at once. the traffic on that sidewalk wasn't any heavier and was actually thinning out towards the end of the video, as they moved the protestors farther down the sidewalk, except those ladies. notice they are virtually by themselves for several feet in every direction beyond the orange thingy, when they drop to the ground from the pepper spray.

i think the issue here is, they were told to move along and when they didn't it escalated inappropriately. notice they are so busy trying to figure out what's happening in the direction they're supposed to move in, cause some girl is screaming from being forced to the ground (confirmation of that?). i wouldn't have wanted to move there either if people were being forced onto the ground in my walk way.

it's just a bad set of circumstances, that unfortunately got out of hand by the inappropriate use of a painful measure in an iffy moment (screaming person ahead).

reply to post by Domo1


I think it's funny that so many people think as you do. A protest that disrupts nothing, changes nothing.

As for the outed cop? Good.

reply to post by PapaKrok


It's not that simple. People are afraid. And rightly so.

It goes like this, join a cause, start a fight, end up dead in the street.

I agree that a small peaceful protest will accomplish nothing. But you are asking people to risk alot of the little they already have. To some it is worth it to others it is not.

You don't have to be boots on the ground though to be vocal and make a serious impression. Anonymous has proven this, wikileaks has proven this. . . The new cyber battlefield is where the real fight is being fought.

reply to post by PapaKrok


don't tell me to shut up. free country. remember? or is it only free if i agree with every last thing you say? just let me know, so i can make a decision based on all the data.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Section31

 

why does everyone, on both sides of this issue, misquote me or mistranslate what i'm saying or imply things i clearly don't mean. no i don't think they should be blocking the door. were they? to me, it just looked like people on the sidewalk.

Where do you think that side walk was? If you look to the left side of the camera, you will clearly see the door open to an establishment. Protestors standing right outside of the door. One of the protestors were holding the door open, so she can flee into the establishment to hide.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Section31

 

...they were told to move along and when they didn't it escalated inappropriately. notice they are so busy trying to figure out what's happening in the direction they're supposed to move in, cause some girl is screaming from being forced to the ground (confirmation of that?). i wouldn't have wanted to move there either if people were being forced onto the ground in my walk way.

While the cop told them to move along, they started to scream at the officers. As a result of not complying to a request, the cop took the necessary steps to disperse the crowd.

Its not as simple as 'protestors have rights'. Shop owners, consumers, and bystanders also have rights.

Asset Protection?
Loss Protection?
Is that like a Pool Technician or something?

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by PapaKrok

 

don't tell me to shut up. free country. remember? or is it only free if i agree with every last thing you say? just let me know, so i can make a decision based on all the data.

Can I do the opposite of tell you to shut up?

Can I ask you how you expect ANYTHING to change by using the same old weak tactics we've been using for the past 60 years that have accomplished absolutely nothing?

reply to post by Section31


did the establishment not want people to put their hands on the doors? see, what worries me is this could go either way. protestors could end up being the new gypsies for the new nazis to pick on. and the people who don't get involved in all this, could end up being the new dead people of the communists. these appear to be our current choices. either fascist socialism or communist socialism. personally, i don't find either one very appealing. i happen to like people as a general rule and don't want to see escalation of either ideology.

Originally posted by jpuniue
My heart goes out to all of the victims. I would like to know how a person becomes like what I saw from the NYPD. SCUM OF THE EARTH!!!

Now hold on there. I have friends in the NYPD, good people. But even they know theres just as much scum in uniform as there is on the street.

reply to post by Domo1


The protesters weren't violent, it was a peaceful protest. That is the misconception.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Section31

 

did the establishment not want people to put their hands on the doors?

Did the establishment ask the cops to move the protestors, for they wanted to protect their investments and property?

You are not using logic.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Section31

 

...protestors could end up being the new gypsies for the new nazis to pick on. and the people who don't get involved in all this, could end up being the new dead people of the communists. these appear to be our current choices. either fascist socialism or communist socialism. personally, i don't find either one very appealing. i happen to like people as a general rule and don't want to see escalation of either ideology.

See? You are taking this into the extreme.

Without taking all the elements within the video into consideration, you are turning this into something more violent and extreme. If the cops were to use excessive force, they would have kicked the crap out of her while she was down. They did not.