Anonymous Leaks Personal Details of Cop Who Pepper-Sprayed Wall Street Protesters

Originally posted by dashen


Being a faceless unaccountable thug just got a little bit harder. The tables have turned. Now there is a mass legion of faceless unaccountable witnesses who have the power to unmask the jackboots for all their miserable violence. You mace me, we find you. You try to find me, well, be prepared, because like they say......
They are anonymous,
They are legion
they do not forgive,
they do not forget,
Expect them

Oh also, stop macing innocent non-violent hippie women,does this even need to be said?

Oh yes! Those videos brought tears to my eyes. People we have to stand up for each other. That was OUTRAGEOUS! The NYPD and the Bloomberg administration are the scum of the earth! They deserve whatever is coming their way. You protestors have my support completely! Innocent people were violated by the people who are paid to protect them. This is what America has come to. It's only going to get worse if we don't stand up and stop it. I just could not believe my eyes. I was left speechless after viewing that footage. I am so sorry that happened to the protestors. My heart goes out to all of the victims. I would like to know how a person becomes like what I saw from the NYPD. SCUM OF THE EARTH!!!

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they should leave the families out of it because they have nothing to do with what the cop does on duty, but at least posting the officers information will start to make them think twice before they act which is a great start in the right direction.

What the cop did was way out of line and he should be fired.

That said I am unsure why his wife, kids and the rest of his family should be harrased?

And I don't think giving out this cops personal information is OK.

slomo of the incident.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
This move by anonymous has the very real potential to backfire on them, badly. Publishing a cop's home address most likely won't get the cop hurt. If attacking the cop was what someone was after, they know exactly where he'll be. He's a cop after all He has a very predictable and assigned area with times to expect him. However, someone who wouldn't have the guts to attack the cop directly might well go for a wife and/or kids.

I hope this doesn't end badly for the family of this Cop. If it does....Anonymous will have crossed a line with me and millions more like me. You don't put a bulls eye on the FAMILY of the person you want to target for something. That may sound old fashioned to some, and to be totally honest here, I grew up as the son of a Cop so my view is hardly without bias...but some lines have been respected by even the worst of organized crime. Why can't Anonymous show some class too? Oh well...

Yes, your comments are completely biased. Did you watch the footage? I don't advocate hurting anyone's family either, only the culprits that committed the crime FIRST. He is the coward, hiding behind a shield and his cop buddies. I don't like feeling this way, but after watching those videos, it put so much rage in me towards those cops it left me speechless. Their intent was to deter more protestors from coming out, sanctioned by the #ty mayor and his rich cronies. Put a fork in me, I'm done.

Originally posted by constantwonder

Originally posted by daddio
reply to post by dashen

 

If everyone were to be responsible and bring down these thugs at the time of the crime THEY commit, then we would not have this problem. Education IS the only way, violence serves no one.

Try to bring down a cop at the time of the crime. . .

That is fantastic in theory but if ANYONE had laid a hand on that cop we'd be counting corpses instead of rinsing some eyes. . .

The problem with power hungry cops is a tricky one to deal with. . . Especially considering we KNOW they will shoot to kill.

The procedure to "bring down a cop at the time of the crime" is to get the Sheriff and his deputies to do the job. Or to file a complaint with the FBI. I know that there are some here who will disagree and say they are all corrupt, but I know of 14 FBI agents sitting in federal prison for exposing rogue cops and the government. Yes, they are in prison on false charges and are fighting to get out. But at least they took the initiative to DO SOMETHING regardless of the consequences.

Anon is not helping here by sending pizzas or exposing the families. The cops badge number and pricinct number should be enough. Stopping the cop when he comes out of the stattion and onto public ground is the way to do it, ask questions, videotape responses. DO NOT involve innocent people such as his family. Serve a petition on him, file a lien on him, he IS a corporate officer, so he can not work until the lien is paid. There are ways of getting things done.

Violence serves no one. The only way to get our sovereignty BACK is by peaceful work and education. Stand up to them and TELL them where you stand and that YOU have the resposible authority and NOT them, be resposible and do NOT rely on government, governments have never been necessary for ANYTHING but commerce regulation. Just sayin'.

Originally posted by kyred
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Yeah, well, people who get arrested, whether guilty or not, often have their pictures and addresses printed in newspapers. What's so special about being a hired government thug, that the thug can't get the same treatment?

Well said and I agree.

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by BadNinja68

 

Im not saying your a liar, but could you elaborate please? Im very familiar with using security compaines for "asset protection". Cacthing the bad guy is LEO job, and has absolutely nothing to do with asset protection, nor would any company allow such a liability from security.

I don't know what state you're in. I am not going to tell you the company I worked (Actually worked for 2 of the companies in the videos) for but I will tell you that you can legally apprehend someone in my state. It is treated as a citizens arrest and is perfectly legal.

1) Witness subject enter location without the product

2) Select the product

3) Conceal the product

4) Pass all points of sale without offering payment

5) Citizens arrest - You can use force here and we all carried handcuffs.

Pretty much like that. Weird I have the same white jacket with stripes.

And that.

I can do this all day.

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again, you are vague, so here's some facts....
Assault means the same thing in every state. US law is very clear.
( and I do not think you understand a Citizens arrest. You must have a law enforcement officer PRESENT to "arrest" someone as a citizen... otherwise it's assault/kidnapping. )
I have seen these lawsuits before. they get settled for large sums. Due to security being ignorant of the laws and their job.

( FYI:.....those Loss prevention officers on TV that physically catch crooks are off duty LEO.. not security guards without badges)



No state allows a private citizen to act as a law enforcement officer.
You cannot detain someone without a badge for theft of property.

If you do you are guilty of Kidnapping under federal law.
you have not one shred of authority.
I have also worked with 2 of the 4 major security companies in the United states.
none will allow you to work without at least a class c guard lisc. ( unarmed).
I dont know of a state that will allow you to wear a guard badge without certification. ( there may be one, but Im not familiar with it)





a store shoplifitng security guard has zero authority.
any lawyer would have had your a** for "apprehending" someone.
I know it's done., but it's not legal in any state. period. When I worked for Wallmart, security would be fired if they touched a shoplifter. ( this was on a National level, not local)
Assault is very real, and applies here.
You have no authority. Touching = assault unless you feel your life or the life of another is at risk.



better check with that legfal dept. again... these laws are in place to prevent gung-ho security guards from becoming vigilante criminals.
You are not trained to touch anyone. doing so leave you and the company open for a lawsuit.
sorry, that BS wont fly with me.

Im to old and been doing this too long.

PS... My attorney wants to know what store allowed you to touch innocent ( until proven guilty in a court of law) citizens, with no training, badge or authority..and left them open for litigation... he's looking at new boats.


it's gettin deep folks... use your common sense when dealing with trolls.

reply to post by citizen3273676


wanna point out where i said that collateral damage was acceptable for anyone ? i don't even believe in the death penalty, for cripes sake. i don't agree with war. i do realize the country has to defend itself, but i don't think fighting wars that are unrelated to our defense, is even remotely good. there's where the wiggle room comes in. because the defintion of defense of one's country can get very wide and broad after awhile.

and here's where i have my problem on this. are you suggesting it's bad when we kill people who kill americans overseas but it's okay if americans are killed here because the person might have money or a job? make sense please. it's not good if people are killed anywhere. killing people is bad. like it not right. as in wrong. and i've said that since the first time i heard we had legallized the death penalty and been saying it, ever since. war sucks. bin laden was the only thing the american people agreed to and we thought it was gonna take an army just to get to where he was holed up. it's not anyone's fault here. may not have even been bin laden's fault.

the point is, the cop did wrong. not his family. end.of.story.

Originally posted by ARealandTrueAmerican
Tony Bolony?

Really?

You're surprised that someone with such a bully-able name became a cop, hmm?

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
This move by anonymous has the very real potential to backfire on them, badly. Publishing a cop's home address most likely won't get the cop hurt. If attacking the cop was what someone was after, they know exactly where he'll be. He's a cop after all He has a very predictable and assigned area with times to expect him. However, someone who wouldn't have the guts to attack the cop directly might well go for a wife and/or kids.

I hope this doesn't end badly for the family of this Cop. If it does....Anonymous will have crossed a line with me and millions more like me. You don't put a bulls eye on the FAMILY of the person you want to target for something. That may sound old fashioned to some, and to be totally honest here, I grew up as the son of a Cop so my view is hardly without bias...but some lines have been respected by even the worst of organized crime. Why can't Anonymous show some class too? Oh well...

If your father did something so ridiculously n-American that the general public felt they needed to f* up his family to get back at him, that violence against his family would be on HIM, NOT the public. And at that point you might as well stop calling him a FATHER.

Originally posted by dashen
...for all their miserable violence. You mace me, we find you. You try to find me, well, be prepared, because like they say...

Pepper spray is a nonviolent deterrent.

I would have used tear gas.

Originally posted by jpuniue

Whats with the rage guys.... Language like this drags us down.

I'm no saint and neither is my tongue but come on guys this is ATS, are we not supposed to stand for something better...

Win with your mind, and remember. . . Rise above.

reply to post by Partisanity


this is the same concept as saying it's okay to lynch mob a black guy's family because the black guy did something wrong. when are you going to figure out how bad this idea is? it is a bad idea. you don't target whole groups of people to pay for the actions of one person

I don't agree with giving out the officer's address and phone number but I do agree with exposing the name, photograph and the same kind of details that law enforcement releases on all criminal suspects.

Originally posted by Honor93

Originally posted by undo
misdirection and a strawman. no i don't want people calling me on my phone repeatedly, once i tell them not to anymore. if they do anyway, that's abusive.

and that's pretty logical and has nothing to do with this guy's family being abused to get revenge on the guy! admit how bad of an idea that is or i'm not gonna shut up. i have a family. i'm a mom. you hurt my family, i'm gonna find out why. if you hurt my family because of me, i'm gonna call ya on it. cause their names look nothig like mine. we don't even agree on everything. we have to take turns using the bathroom. ya know, SEPARATE INDIVIDUALS WITH THEIR OWN BRAINS.

so, they abused your telephone number, your request to cease and your harmony ... what did you DO about it??? nothing?

why should anything be done to anyone who might call the officers' listed number?
if it didn't bother you enough to DO anything, why should we be concerned in this instance?

again with the family getting abused ... fallacy, fantasy and fear-monger much?
but don't forget, the family of every innocent person arrested suffers, why shouldn't his?

if i were the family, i'd be more concerned about folk like you being 'concerned' ... really.
it is NONE of your business, is it?
His (officer) information is public, he is a public servant, he made a horrible decision and there will be consequences. why is that so difficult for you to understand?
perhaps He (officer) should have considered the consequences before he armed himself with mace and assaulted an innocent and disabled (deaf) person. (as another poster indicated)

big deal you're a mom, i'm a generation ahead of you, i'm a grandma ... you're point?
public information IS public information ... get that through your thick, separate, individual brain and we won't disagree at all.

Bravo!! Since these cops have no accountability because they are told to harm, now they will think twice about hurting innocent people.

Originally posted by MajorKarma
reply to post by dashen

 

What I find interesting is the members who have criticized exposing this policeman, exposing abusive officers in general and in effect defending the cops. Yeah, I am talking about you.

He was 'abusive' within your personal terminology.

Using pepper spray is not act of violence. Its a determent.

If you want a group of people to move, you can use pepper spray to get everyone to react.

It worked.

Did you happen to notice that the protestors are blocking the door to a privately owned company? Even though the protestors have certain rights, business owners also have certain rights.

reply to post by jpuniue


wanna tell me what innocent person i hurt? i'm not a police officer. just curious if you think it's okay to go around harassing people who are not the problem. and if you think i'm the problem, i'll be asking for evidence, like now. as it not tomorrow. and i have much evidence that anon has hurt people by drawing alot of negative attention to them, such as a lady they claimed was crazy, and her allegedly emotionally abused son. if those two were as messed up as anon claimed, why would they make it worse by pointing every kind of abuse possible, in their direction? it doesn't make sense.

In an ideal world, no one's family would be an issue, citizens or police, even the mafia respects this to a large extent. But this is the real world and actions have consequences. With privilege and power come RESPONSIBILITY. If any police officer isn't aware that their actions could have consequences for themselves and their families if they step too far out of bounds in today's world then that's on them.

This cop demonstrated bad judgement and unnecessary aggression and it caused harm to an innocent citizen, some would argue being a woman, she was even more vulnerable, which made the incident even worse. It's far too common. He wasn't the pioneer for this type of behavior either.

Police today are more brutal towards the public than they used to be or at least that's the perception, maybe with so many video recorders we're only now seeing what's always been there. So now they make recording their actions illegal in many places and it serves no purpose but to hide their misdeeds. Period. Public awareness is heightened now, paranoia justified or not is aggravating the public in general and LE knows it and is trying to prepare for it everywhere you look.

We live in the illusion of a democracy with basic rights that are violated at will on daily basis and mocked when we speak out about it. The masses are waking up and getting tired of just taking it. The more this type of thing happens, the closer we're getting to the breaking point. When playing by the rules stops working, then guess what, the family becomes fair game and any other weakness comes into play. If a police officer feels pressure to do THE RIGHT THING because he fears the public might harm his family in some way if he doesn't, I have no problem with that whatsoever. It never would have come to this point if they behaved as they are supposed to.

reply to post by undo


Your argument will fall on deaf ears I am afraid. Mob mentality and targeting entire groups of people is in vogue. No one cares really who they are pointing at as long as it gives them reason to shoulder no responsibility of their own.

You've been here a while Undo I am sure you are aware of this..