Facebook tracks you even after logging out

Originally posted by Shamatt

Originally posted by semicolonsmile
Another thing that facebook does that I find rather sketchy is this: If you use facebook mobile, or do anything on facebook with your phone, it posts your phone number on your profile without asking your permission. Then, if you have an android device with the facebook app(not sure about iphone), you automatically have everyone's phone number that has ever used facebook mobile stored in the contacts section of your phone.

Not that I mind being able to randomly drunk dial old high school acquaintances.

That is just untrue.

I use the android app and neither of the two things you state above have happened to me.

Why do people spread these parnoid untruths arround?

Really? What kind of phone do you have?

I have a motorola droid 2. Just recently upgraded. I never listed my number on fb, but was very surprised when i found it there. I found it before I upgraded, just using regular "unsmartphone" fb mobile. I had a Nokia twist at the time.

I also have numbers in my phone that I shouldn't have.

Go through the "all contacts", not just "phone contacts" section *edit: of your phone, NOT the fb app*. Click on a contact you only have on fb (obviously you need the fb app and a linked profile) and if they have their number posted on facebook, you can call it. If they don't, you cant...but the point is there are people like me who didn't know their number would be automatically published when they connected via fb mobile.

I'm pretty sure you'll be surprised at who you can call.

I was. I still am. I literally just tried it after reading your response to make sure I was not mistaken.

Originally posted by highpriestess
if what the poster above me is saying is correct, than that would explain mine situation, i uploaded photos from my phone to my facebook all the time. i do not have a phone that has "apps" - no 4g, no touch screen, none of that. i had to picture message my pics to facebook, and when i connected to facebook on my phone is was mobile web, not an app, but actually connecting my phone to mobile web and then going to facebook on my phone's browser. but, by initiating that, it activated that contacts list and all my friends who had their numbers on FB (whether they knew it or not) were listed in a huge contact list. blew my mind.

i do not have an android, so i cannot say how that works. and the instructions on this page i gave you seems to be for an iphone. but, i just wanted to say that the poster you responded to was not just stating some paranoid rumor.

And THIS makes even more sense, because I uploaded stuff from my nokia twist, not my droid, when I found that my number had been published. So maybe I was only half right in the sense that smartphones are exempt from automatic number posting..however it could still be true for less-than-smartphones.

Either way, I'm not deliberately spreading "paranoid untruths".

Thats why I have a Extension in my browser that blocks all facebook and google activity and tracking. The Internet giveth and the Internet taketh away.

finally deleted FB yesterday for good this time. twitter is good enough, playing with google plus too. to be honest, FB(and my postings on it) have cost me dearly. I'm better off without it.

Originally posted by Highlander64

Facebook tracks you even after logging out

www.smh.com.au

In alarming new revelations, Woollongong-based Nik Cubrilovic conducted tests, which revealed that when you log out of Facebook, rather than deleting its tracking cookies, the site merely modifies them, maintaining account information and other unique tokens that can be used to identify you.

Whenever you visit a web page that contains a Facebook button or widget, your browser is still sending details of your movements back to Facebook, Cubrilovic says.


Facebook's new Timelines feature creates a chronological scrapbook of major events in your life. Photo: AFP

"Even if you are logged out, Facebook still knows and can track every page you visit," Cubrilovic wrote in a blog post.

(visit the link for the full news article)

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Plenty of programs/applications have this capability, hell even Google does this to tailor advertisements to your interests. I'm not defending their actions here, but it's hardly breaking news. And it says what it does in the EULA.

Originally posted by Tetrarch42

Originally posted by Highlander64

Facebook tracks you even after logging out

www.smh.com.au

In alarming new revelations, Woollongong-based Nik Cubrilovic conducted tests, which revealed that when you log out of Facebook, rather than deleting its tracking cookies, the site merely modifies them, maintaining account information and other unique tokens that can be used to identify you.

Whenever you visit a web page that contains a Facebook button or widget, your browser is still sending details of your movements back to Facebook, Cubrilovic says.


Facebook's new Timelines feature creates a chronological scrapbook of major events in your life. Photo: AFP

"Even if you are logged out, Facebook still knows and can track every page you visit," Cubrilovic wrote in a blog post.

(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 25-9-2011 by Highlander64 because: (no reason given)

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Plenty of programs/applications have this capability, hell even Google does this to tailor advertisements to your interests. I'm not defending their actions here, but it's hardly breaking news. And it says what it does in the EULA.

it's not even what they're doing, it's how they do it, and their philosophy. zuckerberg and his sister are anti-privacy, the sister has said as much. They WANT to know everything about everyone on facebook, they don't respect privacy at all. it goes way beyond advertising.

Originally posted by Highlander64

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by pianopraze
Bye Bye facebook.

Before you delete your account, remember that Facebook never really actually delete your account.
They just render it inactive, but they keep the data about you.

So... before you remove yourself from facebook you have to at the very least upload false information. Tell them you're a 98 year old blind sheep herder from Uzbekistan with a fanatical interest in dust... or something.
Unless you are, in which case dont.

excellent post

that will keep em guessing

That would be funny to see on the timeline, "And it looks like right here is when Paul changed his life and moved to Uzbekistan under the name Dong Fluffy to persue his passion. We should respect him for that and reflect on our own lives a little bit"

OK people here is the wrap:

I went to town, I connected to FB using the Android App (which I updated from the adroid marketplace as I was out of date). I uploaded a photo of where we were having lunch to my FB profile. I have checked every inch of my FB Profile and I can find no trace of my mobile phone number onywhere on FB. So either I am not looking in the right place, or you lot are on something! lol

Seriously. If you doubt me, (or would likr to help me figure this out) PM me and we will make friends on FB so you can se for yourselves that I am not making this up. I use the Android app on my SonyEricson Experia X10 Mini Pro and my mobile details are NOT added to FB.

ETA: There are no numbers anywhere on my phone which I did not put there.

reply to post by highpriestess

it just makes me sad, dude. i feel like that Native American dude in the old anti-litter commercial when i look around at my country sometimes, ya know?

Shhhh Hes a Crying Italian ! that thinks he's Indian !
Iron Eyes Cody
en.wikipedia.org...

I Get what you Mean Tho I had that Feeling in the Reagan Area ( 80s ) and Still do, Just Worse after the Bush Area (2000's )

You Know Patriot Act ! is Just a Better Version of the Internal Security Act of 1950/ McCarren Act
They Just Replaced Communist with Terrorist and then Intertwined the Nazi Enable Act of 1933 within it !!

How Stuff Works Should make that a 4 min Video! :LOL: In their
Stuff they don't want you to know! ( Episodes) Parallels of the Patriot Act , The German Enabling act of 1933 & The McCarren act ( Internal Security act of 1950 ) I would not be surprised if they DID !

Originally posted by Jason88
reply to post by RSF77

 

In the latest versions of FF and Chrome just use "Private Browsing" feature. No need for add-ons anymore, privacy is built right in.

It's not the same or really even comparable. Unless the Private Browsing feature also regulates _javascript/etc like NoScript does.

I'm done with that Orwellian piece of crap.

Could this be:

Posted by a facebook user/programmer/mark himself

Replies: automated -mostly, some personalized

1984

reply to post by Highlander64


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Believe it was the NSA recently, that mentioned we can do less tapping as facebook provides a wealth of personal information, free on board. Well, seems to me folks that is true. Suppose what concerns me and my family is, as the op suggests, what's freee and what's given by fb? Now there coming out with all new stuff and openly say, you'll have adjust your security settings as we realease changes -- WHAT!!?

Don't be any FBs fool people.

Decoy

Originally posted by dgtempe
I'm done with that Orwellian piece of crap.

I think we're getting a little carried away with the Nineteen Eighty-Four references on this site. An application where one knowingly signs a user agreement and is then tracked for advertising purposes is not the same as constant video/audio surveillance with mass population indoctrination. One is an annoying side of capitalism and one is... well Orwellian.

Why should I care? I have nothing to hide.

I bet you all do. We know about those dead humanoid creatures in your closet!!!

Originally posted by Tetrarch42
One is an annoying side of capitalism and one is... well Orwellian.

"You know we have to convince people that socialism is really capitalism..." Aaron Russo quoting Nick Rockefeller.

it's ALL Orwellian.

What i get sick of, is all the little tech-y types on here who think they are such smartie pants about code and how other sites do the same thing as facebook and blah blah blah. What you forget to "analyze" in your "data" is the HUMAN factor: intention. The difference between Zuckerberg and some of the others (who truly do just sell you off for advertising) is that Zuckerberg has proven numerous times that he's a snake in the grass that could care less about human beings. Do they all track you and collect all of your data? maybe. but do they all stand there and call you all a bunch of dumb f*&%s? Let's don't forget that Zuckerberg started out stealing, then STOLE his way to the top and sold out every friend he had.

This topic is about FACEBOOK... not google or any of the other miners. everyone knows what they are getting in to with google, etc. - But Facebook is run by a man who would probably sell his own momma's organs on the black market if someone made him an offer.

Intention is everything.

And how do you KNOW it isn't about surveillance? you know this for a fact?
www.brainsturbator.com...

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yep

you hit the nail right on the head

and so far facebook has not deigned to answer Mr Cubrilovic's enquiry - and do we believe they made this 'malicious' code by accident?

and if they can do this - and most FB users will never know about it - what will be NEXT?

the original article has been updated - more excerpts

Of course, Facebook's bottom line improves the more users decide to share. Reports suggest that Facebook staff refer internally to "Zuck's law", which describes Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg's belief that every year people share twice as much online - a trend that has caused Facebook's valuation to skyrocket towards $US100 billion.

Stephen Collins, spokesman for the online users' lobby group Electronic Frontiers Australia, said he did not believe Cubrilovic's revelations would see people turn away from the site in droves but he hoped users became more engaged with the issue.

''Facebook, once again, are doing things that are beyond most users' capacity to understand while reducing their privacy. That's just not cool. I'd go so far as to say it's specifically unethical,'' he said.

Collins said the only reason he still uses Facebook is to help his 14-year-old daughter on the site. He said it took him an hour to lock down his profile to his satisfaction following the recent changes.

''It's just not good enough. The default setting for any site should be 'reveal nothing about me unless I make a specific choice otherwise','' he said.

Others have compared Facebook's changes to Bentham's panopticon - a design for a prison where the guards can see all inmates but where the inmates never know whether they're being watched. The result, applied to Facebook, is that real-time sharing means we always feel like we're being watched and this then influences our behaviour.



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I've removed my comment as it was inappropiate to the discussion and not in a dis-heartly manner towards the member contributing to this thread. Just so you know and that I was off topic.

Let us all spread the word and complain to facebook

i never use face book and haven't since they switched from exclusive to inclusive and their format changes of the update bar became annoying. I didn't want to hear about my friend's relationship status being updated, so how is it people are tolerating this freak show spy center? Hopefully people boycott this Bilderberg funded privacy scam.