Facebook tracks you even after logging out

Originally posted by AnonymousVan
read THIS carefuly
online.wsj.com...
en.wikipedia.org...
cookies CAN actually track and send your browsing habits.

Cookies are text files, as described in the second WikiPedia link. The first link refers to "Locally Stored Objects" in Flash which are also static content that cannot perform any actions on their own.

Lots of people use the facebook app on their desktops, thus, opening wide the cookie folder for the app, to snoop and read your browsing habit

Again, the Facebook app can only read cookies associated with it's own domain. It can't "see" the other cookies on your computer.

Its even easier with java

Java is a server-side application development platform that does not run in the user's browser, it runs on the server (like PHP, Perl, ASP, etc.). It has the same restrictions on the ability to see cookies.

Down with Facebook! Sneaky Bastards.

reply to post by Highlander64


So glad that i got rid of my facebook account months ago, i was always worried by the whole thing, I now dont use a social media site, and yet here i am still alive and still with as many friends as i ever had. Oh and of course the bonus that everything i do now is only known by the people that need to know or the people i want to know.

The other bonus of course is that i dont have too look at 300 silly facebook status's a day, from "just put my fresh knickers on" to "cleaning my teeth",

Bliss

reply to post by kdog1982


There is.Theres a slew of programs that you can easily use to block trackers etc. Or go totally invisible and use tor.

Get Ghostery for Chrome and Firefox, bye bye tracking cookies and bugs.

www.ghostery.com...

reply to post by Highlander64


Must not be too alarming to me, as I don't recall the last time I bothered to log out. Same with this site.

I argue that Facebook, the money making giant, makes money off the backs of joe public. It stands to reason, the gains they received, a percentage should be given to each user.
If someone uses some hollywood heroes likeness anywhere they are sued and have to pay for that useage.

I don't care what their ever-changing TOS says. Fact is they make money off our backs, FB is just as bad or worse then a government entity.

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Originally posted by AnonymousVan
read THIS carefuly
online.wsj.com...
en.wikipedia.org...
cookies CAN actually track and send your browsing habits.

Cookies are text files, as described in the second WikiPedia link. The first link refers to "Locally Stored Objects" in Flash which are also static content that cannot perform any actions on their own.

Lots of people use the facebook app on their desktops, thus, opening wide the cookie folder for the app, to snoop and read your browsing habit

Again, the Facebook app can only read cookies associated with it's own domain. It can't "see" the other cookies on your computer.

Its even easier with java

Java is a server-side application development platform that does not run in the user's browser, it runs on the server (like PHP, Perl, ASP, etc.). It has the same restrictions on the ability to see cookies.

You are right, however, you do see a billion sites using the "Facebook Like" Feature, if you visit a site with a "Like us on Facebook" link, that in itself is tracking you and sending information to Facebook. So when you visit your favorite techno-blog and decide to like it on FB, they have some more information about you.
Same with sites that ask you to login to facebook to comment on another domain, its made for FB to track you easier all the while giving them permission.

The fear is not with cookies exclusively, the fear is based on how many sites are willing to hold Facebooks hand and send them information on their users by adding their Modules on your site. Once you add their module to your site you give FB permission to track any information that comes from it.
Also, they can match IP's of people who do not click the buttons, do not sign into their accounts on another domain...they can easily match the IP with who you are specifically and gain more interesting information on your habits.

Powerful indeed.

reply to post by Highlander64


Just a Hint !

Guess Who was invited to the Bilderburg Group! Conference of 2011

Chris Hughes
en.wikipedia.org...

He is also an invitee of the Bilderberg Group and attended the Swiss 2011 Bilderberg conference at the
Suvretta House in St. Moritz, Switzerland

Bilderberg Meetings
St. Moritz, Switzerland 9-12 June 2011
www.bilderbergmeetings.org...

USA Hughes, Chris R. Co-founder, Facebook

So what does that Tell you !

Originally posted by Shamatt

Originally posted by Jason88
reply to post by Shamatt

 

I post pictures of my daughter on Facebook to my friends and family in a well managed profile. I don't want "friends-of-friends" to access that information, as I don't know them so therefore I don't trust them. That new feature is coming with "timeline"..... So since I cannot ask my family and friends, some who have over 400 friends which means they don't really know their friends, to start de-friending people, it's me who has to leave and find a new way to share personal stuff. I do not live around.many friends and family so Facebook was a the best option for sharing pics, video and other tidbits... not any more. I am aware of security, and this officially pushed it too far.

edit on 25-9-2011 by Jason88 because: (no reason given)

All you need to do is set up facebook so that "Friends Only" can see your profile, your posts and you albums. This might take a minute or two. After that, I think the problem you describe is solved. Nothing has really changed. It is just dosplaying the info it has always had in a new way. Security on FB is not as hard as people make out. Any way - this thread os about gather information on surfing habits, which is a different topic all together.

Doesn't the new layout make it possible for you to see what your friends are doing on their friends profiles?
Say for example you and I were friends, but only you were friends with Jason88. You added a like or a comment to Jason88's pictures of his daughter, wouldn't I be able to see that?
Or has Facebooks developers actually been thoughtful in this respect and made it so totally private profiles such as my own won't come up in the feeds of friends of friends who post on my stuff?
Bleh too confusing.

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Originally posted by AnonymousVan
read THIS carefuly
online.wsj.com...
en.wikipedia.org...
cookies CAN actually track and send your browsing habits.

Cookies are text files, as described in the second WikiPedia link. The first link refers to "Locally Stored Objects" in Flash which are also static content that cannot perform any actions on their own.

Lots of people use the facebook app on their desktops, thus, opening wide the cookie folder for the app, to snoop and read your browsing habit

Again, the Facebook app can only read cookies associated with it's own domain. It can't "see" the other cookies on your computer.

Its even easier with java

Java is a server-side application development platform that does not run in the user's browser, it runs on the server (like PHP, Perl, ASP, etc.). It has the same restrictions on the ability to see cookies.

okk Ill make it Simple do you think that it might be possible to Create a Program to scan those Cookies !

Dont Forget that the Founder Made a Program that Identifies your Music Mp3 Habits and displays Mp3s or Music Group to your Liking !

Mark Zuckerberg = Early Years
en.wikipedia.org...

During Zuckerberg's high school years, under the company name Intelligent Media Group, he built a music player called the Synapse Media Player that used artificial intelligence to learn the user's listening habits, which was posted to Slashdot[28] and received a rating of 3 out of 5 from PC Magazine.[29] Microsoft and AOL tried to purchase Synapse and recruit Zuckerberg, but he chose instead to enroll at Harvard University in September 2002.

the Question is could he make or his Group make Something like that to detect Habits of Browsing !

Dont Forget about the Past that Microsoft Bill gates had his Windows 95 used with a Prossecer with Identity
serial Code linked wiith you IP detecting where you are.. and Microsoft got Caught ! and was Was Exposed!
The Marriage of Intel & NSA

Intel faces possible Euro block on Pentium IIIs

Processor serial number, NSA raise their ugly mugs again

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reply to post by Lulzaroonie


That's the point. It's too hard to discern so people won't try to find out. They will still use it because their friends and family are there and leaving Facebook would make your friends/family think you hate them or something because people are so tied to the damned thing it's become like a telephone but worse.

Facebook strategist are smart and play with your heads, they laugh at their office while their public relations quiets the laughter to a dull roar while reassuring you "everything is normal"
Most people are so used to just "agreeing" to TOS's these days they mean nothing to a user, they give power to the developers.

Facebook is the beginning of the end of privacy folks, you can quote me on it.

reply to post by EspyderMan


It's the sort of thing I want to know.
Anyone I purposefully avoid and don't want to see my stuff who are friends with my friends therefore have access to my profile, pictures etc whenever my friends post on them :-/
*sigh* And that ALSO means I now have to stop slagging off all my friends to other people behind their backs...

wonderful... i kind of knew it... i HATE facebook... but currently, while i can't get everyone to understand picasa web albums, fbook is the easiest way for my family to see pictures of my daughter, so right now it is a necessary evil in my life

but i will say, i NEVER post anything except pictures there, my privacy settings are so high you wouldn't be able to find me if you searched, i don't even use my primary email account, i have a hotmail account that i use just for fbook... BUT i did of course post this thread to it

terrible thread and terrible find, but of course very good information, so S&F from this guy!

reply to post by Highlander64

Will someone please get a hold of the Winklevoss Twins and tell them we are willing to talk?

Show facebook they can't push us around.
They think they have us already bridled and haltered or otherwise "hooked."

reply to post by schitzoandro


I think it's bad enough they let Google put your profile pictures in their image search.
There's nothing we can do about it anyway. Yeah you could leave, but 1 in 9 people in the WORLD use Facebook now. 1 in 9.

i deleted my account long ago....after being a facebook fanatic...i used to really enjoy it...i deleted it and find i have so much more free time. a recommendation to anyone deleting...make sure you are deleting it and not just deactivating it. good luck.

Another thing that facebook does that I find rather sketchy is this: If you use facebook mobile, or do anything on facebook with your phone, it posts your phone number on your profile without asking your permission. Then, if you have an android device with the facebook app(not sure about iphone), you automatically have everyone's phone number that has ever used facebook mobile stored in the contacts section of your phone.

Not that I mind being able to randomly drunk dial old high school acquaintances.

I love facebook. What does it matter if you get tracked on it, you get clocked when you use your cash card and your mobile. I dont see you complaining there..

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by pianopraze
Bye Bye facebook.

Before you delete your account, remember that Facebook never really actually delete your account.
They just render it inactive, but they keep the data about you.

So... before you remove yourself from facebook you have to at the very least upload false information. Tell them you're a 98 year old blind sheep herder from Uzbekistan with a fanatical interest in dust... or something.
Unless you are, in which case dont.

Great advice and what you say is true even after stoping my FB account I recieved fake notifications saying so and so wants to be friends and also some one wrote on your page very sneaky tactics in my opinion.