Facebook tracks you even after logging out

Originally posted by filosophia
i never use face book and haven't since they switched from exclusive to inclusive and their format changes of the update bar became annoying. I didn't want to hear about my friend's relationship status being updated, so how is it people are tolerating this freak show spy center? Hopefully people boycott this Bilderberg funded privacy scam.

Its what the New President of Planet Earth is all about, no national borders, one unified currency one common god and your family and personal interest's take second place in the name of humanity.

simply learn cryptology as fast as you can, it will be your only line of defense for when it is finally unveiled but by then 3/4 of the worlds population will be so blinded or unable to leave the grid that it will be the sacrifice that is needed to please them.

reply to post by Highlander64


What's funny to me is that if I refresh this page, ATS trys to load over 8 different marketing trackers through my browser like "Comscore Beacon" "Gorilla Nation" "Quantcast" etc...

reply to post by CaptainPicard


All are openly identified in our Privacy Policy

Not all are "marketing" related, some are specific to analytics.

reply to post by CaptainPicard


That got some attention huh?

I just block them all(1), I don't particularly like being bombarded with marketing software any more than I do TV commercials from the services I am already paying for (though that would exclude ATS).

I know SkepticO, you have to keep the site running. God/Zeus/Aliens/etc forbid we go back to a basic message board without all the flair. One small step for aesthetics, one giant leap toward Time Warner. I mean already ATS is beginning to resemble a facebook for conspirators and regular old bubble poppers alike, actually it has since I've had a user account here. (P.S. I don't like that word: account, or profile. Can we just say user again?)

If I ever see a "Like" button or a "Skeptic/Believer" button though I'm out. Too many buttons, not enough clean, fresh info.

Remember how great it was when we were considered individuals instead of numbers on a sheet, I don't, its been that way for a while now. When is the day going to come that our internet service is interrupted until we fill out a survey or watch a 30 second commercial?

(1) Note about above link: Tomorrow or sometime in the near future that won't work and there will be a different set of pain in the neck steps we have to take to keep ourselves from getting financially, virtually or otherwise penetrated, so enjoy it while you can.

I've made it a habit to delete all facebook cookies whenever I log out from there. There are usually at least 7 of them to get rid of.

As an experiment I just went to the FB log in page and without clicking on anything on that page or logging in or taking any action whatsoever, I then checked the cookies. There were 5 cookies already set just by navigating to that page without doing anything else. I had checked the cookies just before trying this experiment and there were indeed none there for FB. They all showed up right after I landed there.

I'll continue to check after landing on non-facebook sites that have their widget on them to see if any cookies get set by them that way.

These services, Facebook, ATS, Twitter are free for us to enjoy. And just like TV, it's the commercials (tracking/analytic cookies) are what pays these websites to keep the servers running and folks employed on staff to make these websites work. I have no problem with sites doing this.. in fact, cookies are less obtrusive then TV commercials. But, it's when websites change the rules without telling you that I don't agree with - like Facebook Timeline. ATS on the other hand has been transparent from the start, which is what makes this particular site work well.

I'd like to remind members that our own research here on ATS revealed this activity by Facebook, months ago:

November, 2010
This is why we have no Facebook widgets or like buttons

August, 2010
No Facebook code is on any ATS page

Originally posted by Jason88
These services, Facebook, ATS, Twitter are free for us to enjoy. And just like TV, it's the commercials (tracking/analytic cookies) are what pays these websites to keep the servers running and folks employed on staff to make these websites work. I have no problem with sites doing this.. in fact, cookies are less obtrusive then TV commercials. But, it's when websites change the rules without telling you that I don't agree with - like Facebook Timeline. ATS on the other hand has been transparent from the start, which is what makes this particular site work well.

edit on 3-10-2011 by Jason88 because: (no reason given)

I tend to like to dream and think that the principle of supply and demand would naturally give us what we desire. These things that are free or less expensive because of advertising, we could all do without. If there was enough demand for them in the first place, they would exist either way because people would collaborate to make it a reality. There was no facebook years ago and everyone was just fine, take facebook away today and oh god the world would end, facebook has quite literally been forcefully integrated into our society. Why? Well it's free, why not?

Of course because nobody pays for it, nobody has the right to complain and they do whatever they want. Facebook is basically a directory of people, this is actually serious, considering the amount of information they have on everyone (that they keep forever). Not good, no no no. We've been info raped at the worst time in our modern era, now that a single individual with a few select pieces of this information can ruin your modern life.

Nothing we all don't already know, so when are we going to stop it?

TV commercials... how we accepted a downgrade in the services we pay for I will never know. We pay for this crap on TV, which is all crap now and we can't even get the news anymore (which I think was the basic premise of TV in the first place?), and the people that we reliably throw checks at every month are already very rich. So... Why commercials? When ever I see this garbage on TV or CNN reports about Micheal Jackson or a commercial for another pointless service, I consider it a failure.

Again, we know, when stop?

ATS is ATS, whatever it is. If you removed ATS from the internet completely today, would another group of people get together and pursue the same concept because they enjoyed it? Or would no one really care?

If something is important enough to enough people, then it will be. Stuff like Facebook starts out as an "Ah... what the hell why not" idea. Now these poor people are all Facebook slaves with their entire lives sitting on a server somewhere for just any old selfish fool to come along and abuse, its dual purpose. I just get disheartened, nothing is made from a dream anymore, everything is created for the sole purpose of obtaining worthless paper and holding ones nose up at others.

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I didn't see that thread, but thanks for that.

just deleted my facebook account ..

thx for reminding me ..

reply to post by Komodo


Don't forget to stay completely away from FB for the prescribed period in order to ensure it doesn't automatically get reinstated.

well yeah!!

most computer savvies know this already..

just set you browser to delete certain cookies or ALL of them from certain sites when you exit the browser

reply to post by wayno


What do you think internet cookies will do? Hunt you down with a nuke!!!

Originally posted by Shamatt

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Originally posted by kdog1982
Every site you visit tracks where you have been.No surprise there.

That's incorrect, and not entirely possible.

Cookies may only be read by the domain that wrote it in the first place. So, for example, it's not possible for code hosted by ATS to "see" the cookies on your computer written by other sites.

It is just this sort of lies and dissinformation (The quoted text, not what Skeptic wrote) whic is rife in this thread. Everyone is so paranoid about all this information which is being collected. And I have asked time and againwithout answer what on earth I could possibly have to worry abuot, and yet no one can answer me. Everyone goes on about the big bad FB but can't tell me why I should worry too. They just keep saying "Ih but they know everything about you" and they don't of course, but even if they did, how does this harm me or cost me any money, or impinge on my health or my ability to go about my daily business? It does not is the answer. This is a storm in a tea cup is the answer.

The day is approaching when all that information people stupidly post about themselves on farcebook will be used against them - from not being able to get a job due to something you posted there up to being declared an undesirable and threat to the state if they dare speak out against the state resulting in a midnight visit with said undesireables / dissenters permanently being removed from society..
Go ahead keep believing the lie when they tell you farcebook is harmless like a good citizen of the state. You may get lucky and the state will decide your acceptable.

Creepy -.-
Glad i hardly use Facebook

Originally posted by ZerkerVirus
Creepy -.-
Glad i hardly use Facebook

You want creepy, look at the every smart phone, its so locked into the system that it can detect motion, meaning if you stationary or mobile. Now why would anyone want to know that ?

edit:

When cell phone is not in use... ALWAYS remove the battery...

thats why i never use facebook

Man, even though information like this gets too me, I must say that I am not surprised. We live in a police country, and part of that is the government follows and guides us (via propaganda), like sheep.

Facebook's privacy issues are ridiculous. I do not understand why people put so much personal information on it. I like to keep things simple and stopped using it a while ago. I communicate with friends and family via telephone, email or better yet, face to face.

reply to post by ShadesofGrey78


yep

they own it

people use it for free

and wonder why their privacy is gone and their personal info is being sold to marketers