Am i the only one who supports Israel

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever

Originally posted by BRAVO949
If you consider the fact that the Palestinians are the real Jews then there is nothing more anti-Semitic than Zionism.

Christians should support the Jews. The real Jews, that is. The people who we call Palestinians.

BRAVO, you should go to Gaza and the West Bank and tell the Palestinians that they are the "real" jews. Be careful though, because they will slit your throat and then celebrate by parading your corpse in the streets.

and you know this because you've been there, right? amazing.

I don't have a problem with Jewish people or Israeli citizens. It's really their government that's screwing everything up. England made a royal mistake giving them land that was already occupied by other groups of people, and they've essentially been fighting ever since (and long before). The Israeli government oppresses people and has done plenty of atrocities from school bombings to wiping out entire blocks full of innocent people, just because some extremist fires a home made crappy rocket from the location. Palestians are wrong for shooting the rocket, but the Israeli military is 10 times worse for their over reaction. Both Israel AND Palestine are at fault for the violence that's been going on for decades upon decades over there and its really their failure to coexist with another religion, on both sides. Israel doesn't give Palestians the same rights or say in the government, yet expects them to do whatever they want. They either need to live together or build walls and live separately. Its ridiculous how long that situation has been cooking over there. Religion has destroyed this planet. They should start making it illegal to indoctrinate your kids. Wait until they're old enough and let them choose for themselves. Within a few generations most religion would be gone and the world would be better off.

Originally posted by dragonseeker

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever

Originally posted by BRAVO949
If you consider the fact that the Palestinians are the real Jews then there is nothing more anti-Semitic than Zionism.

Christians should support the Jews. The real Jews, that is. The people who we call Palestinians.

BRAVO, you should go to Gaza and the West Bank and tell the Palestinians that they are the "real" jews. Be careful though, because they will slit your throat and then celebrate by parading your corpse in the streets.

and you know this because you've been there, right?

amazing.

edit on 1-10-2011 by dragonseeker because: (no reason given)

Regardless of the rubbish that some of the posters on this site constantly spew, I can assure you that the Palestinians don't believe that they are the descendants of the ancient Israelites. In fact, they would probably consider such an inference an insult to their lineage. They are proud descendants of Islamic heritage.

My post wase made in jest, to illustrate how ridiculous the notion is in the first place.

And who, exactly, ruined the name of Jews?

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever

Originally posted by BRAVO949
If you consider the fact that the Palestinians are the real Jews then there is nothing more anti-Semitic than Zionism.

Christians should support the Jews. The real Jews, that is. The people who we call Palestinians.

BRAVO, you should go to Gaza and the West Bank and tell the Palestinians that they are the "real" jews. Be careful though, because they will slit your throat and then celebrate by parading your corpse in the streets.

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever

Originally posted by dragonseeker

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever

Originally posted by BRAVO949
If you consider the fact that the Palestinians are the real Jews then there is nothing more anti-Semitic than Zionism.

Christians should support the Jews. The real Jews, that is. The people who we call Palestinians.

BRAVO, you should go to Gaza and the West Bank and tell the Palestinians that they are the "real" jews. Be careful though, because they will slit your throat and then celebrate by parading your corpse in the streets.

and you know this because you've been there, right?

amazing.

edit on 1-10-2011 by dragonseeker because: (no reason given)

Regardless of the rubbish that some of the posters on this site constantly spew, I can assure you that the Palestinians don't believe that they are the descendants of the ancient Israelites. In fact, they would probably consider such an inference an insult to their lineage. They are proud descendants of Islamic heritage.

My post wase made in jest, to illustrate how ridiculous the notion is in the first place.

you can assure me? oh, well, that settles it. the stunning depth of knowledge on palestinians you've displayed in this thread means I certainly defer to your word on the matter...oh wait you have no idea..

Are you calling this respectable Jew a liar?



Jews were invented 240 years ago as a concept.

"Jews" did not read the Torah until modern times.

The Zionists used the Torah to justify the "land theft" you call Israel.

The Egyptian Exodus never happen. Myth, legend, made up, fable, fiction. story, white lie...
Roman Expulsion did not happen. Myth, legend, made up, fable, fiction. story, white lie...

Sephardic Jews are converts. Most were Berbers. Many Greek speaking people in Southern Italy converted to Judaism 2,000 years ago. That is why it is hard to tell Jews from Italian in New York. Berbers, Greek / Italian, Khazars.

Humanity - you don't want to admit you are a Berber.

Book 1919 - author David Ben Gurion knew that the Palestinian natives were the real Jews.

The Zionists kicked out the one group of people who had any real historical / biological connection to the land of Palestine.

One more time...

Zionism is a fraud

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever

Originally posted by dragonseeker

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever

Originally posted by BRAVO949
If you consider the fact that the Palestinians are the real Jews then there is nothing more anti-Semitic than Zionism.

Christians should support the Jews. The real Jews, that is. The people who we call Palestinians.

BRAVO, you should go to Gaza and the West Bank and tell the Palestinians that they are the "real" jews. Be careful though, because they will slit your throat and then celebrate by parading your corpse in the streets.

and you know this because you've been there, right?

amazing.

edit on 1-10-2011 by dragonseeker because: (no reason given)

Regardless of the rubbish that some of the posters on this site constantly spew, I can assure you that the Palestinians don't believe that they are the descendants of the ancient Israelites. In fact, they would probably consider such an inference an insult to their lineage. They are proud descendants of Islamic heritage.

My post wase made in jest, to illustrate how ridiculous the notion is in the first place.

reply to post by BRAVO949

Jews were invented 240 years ago as a concept.

"Jews" did not read the Torah until modern times.

The Zionists used the Torah to justify the "land theft" you call Israel.

The Egyptian Exodus never happen. Myth, legend, made up, fable, fiction. story, white lie...
Roman Expulsion did not happen. Myth, legend, made up, fable, fiction. story, white lie...

Many people think that "Christianity" and "Islam" were both created by the ancient Merchant elite, who may have been using their original "Babylonian" business principals for thousands of years. Some scholars believe the elites created Hebrew as a universal "trade" language in an attempt to consolidate and simplify business flow, since too many language barriers existed across the trade routes all over the known world in ancient times. "Judaism" may in fact have originally been the "codes" of elites as they grew into larger populations amongst "other" people with conflicting views and customs, and especially languages.

Rome, as one such Merchant "conquest" had much Jewish influences despite the "anti-Jewish" sentiments that history says existed. Perhaps Rome never really fell, all it did was "change" with the Merchant influences that included religions.

It seems that most "wars", whether military or economic, ancient or recent and current, resulted in a financial and economic "change", with the merchant elite groups always benefiting.

reply to post by BRAVO949

Are you calling this respectable Jew a liar?

Yes I do.
Also, a self hating Jew, a delusional lying Idiot that seek to finance his “research” and fill his pockets by joining to anti Semite Holocaust deniers organizations and individuals. how did you decide he's “respectable” ?

A dean of the Hebrew university, professor Bartal criticized his work :
“A strange puzzling editing, intellectual shallowness, distortion and falsification of historical facts and methods of historical research.”

No one in the academic world takes him seriously, except...idiots who never set foot inside a real library. Ya know, that place with four walls and lots of books.

Why am I not surprised you use his work to further your campaign to smear Jews ?

Hey, gravitational - what happened here?

You are calling Jews liars and I am saying they are respectable!

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Let's examine just one point.

The mythical Exodus from Egypt.

Is there any archaeological evidence or I should ask is there "compelling" archaeological evidence to suggest that the Exodus story is any less a myth than Noah and his magical boat?

Maybe one of your self-loving Jews has found a series of fossilized knishes that mark the trail between Cairo and Jerusalem.

That way Zionists can use the Hansel and Grettle fable as proof that the rape and murder of Palestinian children is justified.

Remember -

Zionists are liars

is our theme.

Professor WILLIAM H. STIEBING, JR

By the time he died (c. 1450 B.C.) [Thutmose III] had created an Egyptian empire that stretched from the Euphrates in Syria to Napata in Nubia, and he had established himself as Egypts greatest warrior pharaoh (41).

The evidence favoring a fifteenth-century B.C. Exodus is clearly not compelling..., its poor fit into the historical and archaeological picture of the time (52).

The kings who ruled the cities of Jerusalem, Lachish, and Gezer at the time of the Conquest are named in Joshua 10:3 and 33, but the rulers of these cities in the Amarna Letters [Egyptian political correspondance with Babylon] bear quite different names (54).

There is no archaeological evidence of their [nomadic Hebrews] prior existence in Sinai or in the steppes and desert fringes of Canaan. Yet we know that pastoral groups are usually well adapted to their environments and seek to maintain their free existence, not to settle down (155).

Originally posted by gravitational
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

Are you calling this respectable Jew a liar?

Yes I do.
Also, a self hating Jew, a delusional lying Idiot that seek to finance his “research” and fill his pockets by joining to anti Semite Holocaust deniers organizations and individuals. how did you decide he's “respectable” ?

A dean of the Hebrew university, professor Bartal criticized his work :
“A strange puzzling editing, intellectual shallowness, distortion and falsification of historical facts and methods of historical research.”

No one in the academic world takes him seriously, except...idiots who never set foot inside a real library. Ya know, that place with four walls and lots of books.

Why am I not surprised you use his work to further your campaign to smear Jews ?

reply to post by BRAVO949


Well well, what do you know. some Jewish people are auto anti Semite idiots that care for nothing but to become rich and / or famous, even if it means history revision that got nothing to do with facts.
The fact that it's a Jew who don't know or ignore his own history, only makes him look more idiotic than say if it was a non-Jew historian.
Since when did idiots become respected???

For a recently made up people, they sure go back a long long time in history.



Let me tell you what archeologists have never found, and never will : Archeological evidence for the existence of the so called “Palestinian people”.

reply to post by BRAVO949

Honestly BRAVO, for someone who supposedly wants the Palestinians to have their own state you are sure as hell working hard against it and right in to Israels hand by bringing in this real/fake Jew mumbo jumbo...it is irrelevant to all but religious nut jobs. This is about 'secular' international law and Israel breaking said international law. The sort of nonsense you are talking about dilutes the topic, diverts it down meaningless avenues and simply adds yet another layer of unnecessary garbage to a very simple situation. Palestine is illegally occupied and Israel needs to leave the lands it is illegally occupying. It is really that simple, yet Israel would like to make people think otherwise....you are helping them do that.

reply to post by gravitational

Also, a self hating Jew, a delusional lying Idiot that seek to finance his “research” and fill his pockets by joining to anti Semite Holocaust deniers organizations and individuals. how did you decide he's “respectable” ?

How did you decide he is "self hating Jew" and "a delusional lying Idiot".

Your post looks like the Jewish version of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.

Originally posted by gravitational
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

that's

Are you calling this respectable Jew a liar?

Yes I do.
Also, a self hating Jew, a delusional lying Idiot that seek to finance his “research” and fill his pockets by joining to anti Semite Holocaust deniers organizations and individuals. how did you decide he's “respectable” ?

A dean of the Hebrew university, professor Bartal criticized his work :
“A strange puzzling editing, intellectual shallowness, distortion and falsification of historical facts and methods of historical research.”

No one in the academic world takes him seriously, except...idiots who never set foot inside a real library. Ya know, that place with four walls and lots of books.

Why am I not surprised you use his work to further your campaign to smear Jews ?

that's because most of the people in the acedemic world are self supreme jews......no wonder they would criticize him....your post proves nothing and actually sheds more light on the problem we have with our academics.....

very interesting video: www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by gravitational
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

Well well, what do you know. some Jewish people are auto anti Semite idiots that care for nothing but to become rich and / or famous, even if it means history revision that got nothing to do with facts.
The fact that it's a Jew who don't know or ignore his own history, only makes him look more idiotic than say if it was a non-Jew historian.
Since when did idiots become respected???

For a recently made up people, they sure go back a long long time in history.


Let me tell you what archeologists have never found, and never will : Archeological evidence for the existence of the so called “Palestinian people”.

the khazaars have stolen the palestinian people's identity and their land.....that's like a tiger stealing a lion's identity and pushing him to the side and saying that there is no proof that the real lion is a lion......

Originally posted by dragonseeker
very interesting video: www.youtube.com...

Yep - that pretty well sums it up.

How does that statement go? "The first trick the devil plays is make you think he doesn't exist."

In the case of the Zionists, the first trick is to make all of us believe they do exist - that is Jews as a race.

No - sorry, Jews are a cultural group made up of many people and they are have some common religious practices in some cases.

Jews are not a race. Jews do not share the same DNA.

Zionism is a fraud

Usually there are two sides to a story but in the case of Zionism there is a whole series of lies. Some big some small but the whole of Zionism is a bundle of lies.

Do Jews deserve to have a country? No, they certainly do not and if they ever did, which they didn't, they have lost the right by being total and unending bastards from 1880 forward.

I am not going to pretend that Israel has any legitimacy at all because it does not.

The Palestinians can do anything they want but I am not going to recognise Israel's right to exist because it is a racist, murderous fraud.

We can not be bullied by Zionism.

reply to post by Humanity4Ever


At one point, the Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat – a man that claimed he was born in “Palestine” but in practice born in Cairo Egypt – first said the Palestinians were always the true land lords of Israel, then changed his story to “ the Palestinians are the descendants of the Jebusite.”
Now they are Israelite ???

Both Arafat and Ashrawi have publicly claimed that Jesus, in fact, was "Palestinian." In July 2000, under the headline "Nazareth: The City Where the Jews Murdered the First Palestinian of Her Sons,"

There is No historical evidence for the existence of a Palestinian people prior to the beginning of the 20th century. Arafat et al knew that, therefor out of the blue invented the Palestinian – Jebusite connection. This is what happens when you become entangled in a web of lies that begin with your birth place.

reply to post by gravitational


Furthermore, according to a few misguided posters in this thread, it appears that the evidence supporting the ancestral history of the ancient Israelites in the Old Testament and the New Testament is nothing but a hoax; part of an elobarate scheme to support Zionism, even though the Bible was written and translated thousands of years prior to the concept of Zionism being founded.

The antisemitic mentality that exists in this thread is a perfect example of why Israel must remain vigilant in order to ensure it's security and maintain it's preservation as a nation.

If anyone is interested in the true history of Israel, here are a just a few of many credible sources available online that provide a detailed chronological history of occupation in the region throughout recorded history:

Chronological History of Israel

Zionism is a fraud

Here is another great example of how Zionism is a fraud.

The Star of David

Wait a minute!

Did the biblical David have a star?

Did the biblical David even exist?

Is there any more evidence for David than say Cinderella?

Here is a challenge for the Zionists. Find a passage in the Torah that mentions the star of David.

There was no star of David but I have to say it is the perfect symbol for Israel because the star of David is a fraud and so is Israel.

It is over for Israel. Too many people in the world see right though the lie that the Zionists have been shoving down our collective throats.

reply to post by BRAVO949

CAPS and HEADLINES ARE FUN.

The star of David appears in archeological excavations dating to the bronze age, IE 3300 BC.
It appears on a Jewish seal found in Sidon 700 BC, found on coins from Gezer and Cefar Nahum, on a synagogue in Megido (gog umagog) 2700 ago. Shall I go on ?
www.kingdavidstory.com...

What's your point anyway, or is it your way of grasping at straws ?
Ancient Jewish archeological findings are undisputed facts. No one with half a brain can dispute that.
Can you show me a “ Palestinian “ archeological findings that goes back to 3300 BC, 1000 BC, 100 BC ?
So far, the only fraud I find here, is you and your buddies.