Occupy Wall Street Has Begun!

Originally posted by FreakOfTheUnknownAcademy
I've tried to post the live stream link that the OP provided on FB so people can pick it up on their feed and check it out, but as soon as I post it it gets deleted! Has this happened to anyone else? try it and see what happens!

I've had similar problems. Try typeing something random before/after the link... this seems to trick the system a little bit... you may not get the nice pretty picture but the weblink will stay up.

I've come to expect the occasional shill and troll on ATS but I did not expect to find them on this thread, opposing what these people are attempting. Shame on you.

History has proven that peaceful protest and demonstrations DO change things; often permanently and often for the good.

To those who think we aren't angry enough I remind you... Anger is a fleeting emotion which creates temporary, albeit dramatic results. Peace, patience and prudence are lasting emotions which create long term effective results. If you don't agree just try building a house or even a storage shed while angry and furious.

"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
Mahatma Gandhi

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
Martin Luther King Jr.

"There was never a good war or a bad peace." Benjamin Franklin

"You're lucky I took me a vow of non-violence, or you'd be suffering some pain right now." Mike Fink (as depicted by OrsonScottCard)

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Alright I'll try it out.. but still.. I've never had this happen to me before

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I was down there with my gf as well....she didnt really understand it and was very afraid of the police, (sheeple type) but we still managed to make some progress and by the end she started to understand why everyone was there and why there were so many police.

Im trying to leave a trail of breadcrubs for her, so she can figure out things herself, but shes mostly confused

im going to say this once. there IS a media blackout, articles exist you say? indeed they do, but the problem is its not in newspapers, on frontpages of any news site, on the tv. you have to already know about the topic to find it.

nuff said. also, i've heard reports of LRAD already, if anyone could snapshot one of those mounted on a van and prove directed energy weapons are ready to be used on peaceful protestest that would be just swell.

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We were forced by police away from the area we wanted to protest in, you must of missed that part. We were in zucotti park by 3, about 700 of us. Try keeping up or coming on time next time

Originally posted by OldCorp


I'm part of no good ol' boy network. I'm as angry as the next guy that in the richest country in the world, people are starving and losing their homes; maybe more so.

"Richest country in the world"...

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WHAT?!?!

Hundreds of trillions of dollars in debt = richest in the world?

Originally posted by Skerrako
reply to post by Jugtalicus

 

I was down there with my gf as well....she didnt really understand it and was very afraid of the police, (sheeple type) but we still managed to make some progress and by the end she started to understand why everyone was there and why there were so many police.

Im trying to leave a trail of breadcrubs for her, so she can figure out things herself, but shes mostly confused

I've realized the only way to show sheeple what is actually happening is to let them discover it for themselves, it can be really frustrating when you know they have all the pieces but everyone always works it out eventually

During Obama's Inauguration, I was hopeful that "Change We Can Believe in" was a reality. I think the millions present and all the people that voted for him did so primarily on that campaign platform. That "Change We Can Believe In" was going to come to the Lies of the Bush presidency and the protracted illegal wars around the globe. And so what happened? Nothing Changed. I was crushed. Weren't you? So do you think that others around the country feel the same way. What we need is a reason to gather as many people as did on Inauguration Day. Then there will be a protest. Protesting Wall Street per sey is harder for people to wrap their minds around.

I live in NC near downtown Raleigh, anything happening there? I'd really like to help with this.

Has anything been organized for Houston, Texas? We need to have these spread to all major cities. The more people, the more power, the stronger our message.

Lupe Fiasco (American rapper) is donating a mobile sound system to #OccupyWallStreet . Didn't know if this had been said in this thread, but I think that's a big step in the right direction when big names are helping us spread our message.

Originally posted by Kicking2bears

History has proven that peaceful protest and demonstrations DO change things; often permanently and often for the good.

My only criticism of this comment is that the vigilance of the protest movement must not let down its guard, because if change occurs, it will just as easily swing back if not kept in check. In other words, you cannot become complacent once an objective has supposedly been attained.

Originally posted by Kicking2bears

History has proven that peaceful protest and demonstrations DO change things; often permanently and often for the good.

My only criticism of this comment is that the vigilance of the protest movement must not let down its guard, because if change occurs, it will just as easily swing back if not kept in check. In other words, you cannot become complacent once an objective has supposedly been attained.

I'll just leave this here since this post says what I think of this occupation amounts to:

Originally posted by johncarter
reply to post by deadmessiah

 

Yes I know about it. I am in europe now though. So what happened in europe and africa on their day of rage.

Well the egyptians amassed in Cairo in the hundred of thousands, stormed the TPTB buildings of their country, and inevitably arrested their creepy President, Mubarak. The tunisians chased their president and bankers out of their country, vowing to hang them if they returned. The islanders stormed their parlament, arrested the main bankers and rewrote their constitution.

The Greecs, well they stormed the streets, clashed with the police and wanted every major banker hanged, and if possible their own prime minister. This hasnt happened yet but rumours are afloat that the next rage will be tenfold bigger and bring down the entire elite with possible real executions and lamp post hangings.

So what is happening in the good ol US?

A bunch of tired, overweight campers will stroll to the bull on wall street. Arrange a nice BBQ. Sing some well chosen songs about freedom. Exchange some dark oaths to fight the TPTB, pay their yearly Alex Jones tax and then pack up and go home.

This is US. The generation that fought the likes of Nixon and LBJ are long gone.

Nothing new here folks...move along

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Were is anonymous any ways they should get their hackers to spam every computer connected to the internet with this.

maybe this has already been said.. but why didnt they start this protest right before opening bell monday?

2nd

Originally posted by jimnuggits
reply to post by sageofmonticello

 

What we have today is NOT capitalism.

I agree, I didn't say we did.

Free markets rise and fall based solely on innovation, supply and demand.

I agree. Free markets also depend on individuals perusing there own self interest and not being regulated except when they violate 3rd parties, non participants.

We have been subsidizing giant dinosaurs for decades.

I agree. No free market exist. I want a free market too. Government should not be in the business of picking who gets money, people should be, it is their money, that is a free market.

You cannot simultaneously preach Capitalism and subsidize failing corporations.

I agree. Companies need to fail and winners need to be allowed to win, the free market decides who is who. what is needed is a free market.

It is a Fascist idea for the tax payers to shoulder the failures of corporatons, without getting to share in the profits.

I agree. Also, even worse when a business pays taxes to subsidize their competition. Government has no place to do as such and should not.

Right now, Americans own a ton of their toxic debt, yet AIG execs get to party on our tax money.

Couldn't agree more. Sucks to be a taxpayer.

We still do not have a capitalist system... YET.

Couldn't agree more. I think we had one once. I am wondering though, why did you decide to reply to my post to say all of this? Just curious? I am just not sure how it relates to my post? Thanks anyhow though, couldn't agree with you more.

Originally posted by Raivan31

Originally posted by Fishticon84
I've been watching some of it and its pretty painful.
I wouldn't be surprised if they all go home in a few hours.

They might know how get their words across on the internet, but they just have no idea on how to speak in public.
There's no organization either.

Its actually pretty embarrassing to watch.

This is new to these people, they have occupied the comftable middle-class for so long that they are a little rusty at rebellion.
Anonymous will eventually step in and organise things (I hope)

Are you serious? Anonymous is too busy playing W.o.W. and DDOSing websites for lulz to take on the leadership of a serious protest. The only thing I'd trust Anonymous to do is order pizzas; apparently they are pretty good at that.

But you're spot on about the people of the middle-class. The generation that protested Vietnam, MY generation, was the last to protest anything successfully. Since then, nearly everyone has become addicted to video games, Netflix, and microwave dinners; people have a cow when their internet and/or cable TV goes out due to a storm: "ZOMG!!! I can't Tweet!!! It's TEOTWAWKI!!! " Very few people today would be able to survive without the technological amenities that society has become dependent on. As I said earlier, as a culture Americans are soft (aside from those who have served in the military,) and I'll bet 1 million Internets that they will give up and go home a LOT sooner than some posters in this thread have predicted.

Sad as it is to contemplate, nobody is going to stage a serious threat to the powers that be until more people lose their jobs, their homes, and their parents no longer get their Social Security checks. There just aren't enough pissed off people to take to the streets and make a difference. What we are seeing in NYC right now are IDEALISTS who have the right idea - well meaning folks like you and me, that get a lot of their info off the net and social media in particular, and know the score - but the second the going gets a little bumpy they will give up. I'll bet another million Internets that most of them are employed and have a roof over their heads, which they will not jeopardize by failing to show up for work on Monday morning, especially in this economy.

Are there more live streams than the one www.livestream.com... that has been down for a while?

Rumor has it that "NYC Police cut off Cell-Phone and Internet Service To Keep Protestors From Broadcasting. Is Mubarak in Charge?"

edit: it just came back online! My question still is valid: is there other live streams by others? One source is never good...

i wouldn't call it a 'blackout', but much of what I've read from the MSM has been implicitly derisive, misleading and somewhat buried under celebrity news and product reviews...AMERICA, F-CK YEAH!