Occupy Wall Street Has Begun!

Originally posted by Common Scarecrow
The problem is that peaceful protests, in the long run, accomplish nothing.

Unless the elite slimballs who think they own the world and all of us in it, fear for their very lives, NOTHING will change.

While the passion in me agrees entirely I am also aware of the critical facts.
The 'Fatcats' have the military power while the people have the numbers.
When they fear for their lives they Will retaliate as they have the means to do so.
Forcing the hand of the 'Fatcats' will only result in the death of thousands of people and force a permanent change contrary to the desires of the protestors.
The only way to achieve the desired goals is to not allow the 'Fatcats' to play their strengths.
They do violence far better then the protestors so that is not the best approach.
What the 'Fatcats' lack is reason, fairness and peaceful persistence.
Always play to your strengths, always choose your battles.
Never give up.

I like how the NYPD is getting to bang the city for time and a half and double time to guard the wall street bull. And I whats up with all those mopeds, overweight cops riding mopeds, guarding a bronze bull! One more irony if CNN mentions this just once then it got more coverage than Fukashima.

I didn't even know about this until I started to read this thread.

Thursday night I was a the store and I saw these two women stacking all the cases of peanut butter into their cart I wondered why they were buying that much, this happened just outside Philadelphia, PA.

It wouldn't surprise me when Monday comes if they dont either get people there to start riots as mentioned earlier or even if they get those trucks that blast the protesters with those Ascoustical devises they use for crowd control.

Good luck stay peaceful you know they will only broadcast this non stop if they can get you all to riot don't let it work for them

Hate to say it, but peaceful protesting/demonstrations never change anything.

Originally posted by DocEmrick
Hate to say it, but peaceful protesting/demonstrations never change anything.

I think you're right... Has there been any peaceful demonstration that changed something quasi-significant in recent history?

Originally posted by Brentnauer

Originally posted by DocEmrick
Hate to say it, but peaceful protesting/demonstrations never change anything.

I think you're right... Has there been any peaceful demonstration that changed something quasi-significant in recent history?

Tea Party protests have caused a bit of bother to some.

Originally posted by Brentnauer

Originally posted by AzureSkyAt least people are down there trying to change things while most of the people who insult them spend their time in front of a computer screen saying they're life is fine so they dont need to protest..

It's easy to "protest" when you've got your $400 smart phone and a $7 Frappucino in your hand. Real change begins with sacrifice. Have you seen documentaries on the Civil Rights Movement? People getting sprayed with water cannons and getting the piss beat out them? That's a protest and that's the way to get things accomplished. Change is painful. This is sad.

Day of Apathy equates to hanging out with friends, listening to the nice policemen and amusing businessmen with their sentiments of entitlement.

Number 1) They have taken donations to supply food. You're making assumptions that they're doing this, 7 dollar coffees? psh.
Number 2) Its good to have your phones on you, for obvious reasons like recording the police, keeping people updated on situations and co-ordinating efforts.

If i had money on my credit card (which i dont because i dont make enough money to pay it down in any significant degree), i would be calling down to new york, and ordering 100+ coffees to the people down there.

They're doing more than most of you who insult them are. Things have to start somewhere.

Originally posted by Troublesome
CNN has declared a media blackout on the event and the other networks are also refusing to even mention the event.

I'm pretty sure nothing will come from this other than networking. That's good. We need to band together if we're going to go off grid successfully. I would say Obama might try to take advantage of the situation by introducing placating yet deceptive legislation. However, the people of the USA wouldn't get the correlation, as they are not getting the news. This is what should be learned from the protests. We cannot trust the MSN. It is paid for by our oppressors.

reply to post by AzureSky


Fair enough, though it sounds like you and I are getting two different sides of the news. All I've seen are interviews with teenagers who sound like they want to switch to anarchy or communism, yuppies loaded up with gadgets from Apple and Microsoft so they can protest "the man" and a group of hipsters sitting outside a Starbucks singing songs.

Originally posted by Brentnauer
reply to post by AzureSky

 

Fair enough, though it sounds like you and I are getting two different sides of the news. All I've seen are interviews with teenagers who sound like they want to switch to anarchy or communism, yuppies loaded up with gadgets from Apple and Microsoft so they can protest "the man" and a group of hipsters sitting outside a Starbucks singing songs.

But are you there? and actually know whats going on? I've seen interviews with people 30+, who are tired of the BS as well.

And when the man provides tools for you to protest 'the man' then why not use them. This is the technological revolution, so everyone is going to have some form of it. Its only natural for us now.

Times change, and this could fizzle out sure, but im sure it will keep pumping forward as more and more people realize. And by the way, i think during any protest like that, no one really knows what system to replace it with. I dont think that has ever been the case in any demonstration that has succeeded.

Anyone fighting the corporate agenda is OK in my books. Fight them for destroying our way of life. Fight them because they have turned us all into debt slaves. As of right now we are even slaves to our own bodies, because we need to eat, and need to be warm. But it costs money to eat and be warm doesn't it. Sad that there is a price on human life isn't it?

Sigh, i dont feel like arguing any more points about this. You can all think what you want. but there are a thousand plus people there right now and it will only grow as more and more flow into the state.

Peace and Love.

Originally posted by Brentnauer

Originally posted by DocEmrick
Hate to say it, but peaceful protesting/demonstrations never change anything.

I think you're right... Has there been any peaceful demonstration that changed something quasi-significant in recent history?

Good point, however, this is an unprecedented change in a western country.
Americans cannot expect the same support as (for example) Libya got from the U.N or rouge factions within the U.S Military or from the media because the system they are protesting supports such organisations.
If they become militant they will have no support, no supply chain, inferior weapons and no traing to assist them.
The people *MUST* wait for the enemy to falter and make a mistake, for only then will the pretext for such aforementioned support be available.
This is a game of chicken and the one to swerve will be the first to fire a shot. It is a cold war.

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Brentnauer

Originally posted by DocEmrick
Hate to say it, but peaceful protesting/demonstrations never change anything.

I think you're right... Has there been any peaceful demonstration that changed something quasi-significant in recent history?

Tea Party protests have caused a bit of bother to some.

Yeah, but those are financed by the Koch brothers.

Your party is nothing more than a front for the elites, and you sit here serving them willingly with a # eating grin.

Pathetic.

Do they not know less people work on Satuday making there protest less effective. I would think if they really wanted to send a strog message to Wall Street they should have done it on Monday the 12th.

Saturday was the day the constitution was signed i do believe. They chose the weekend because of that, and would allow more people to be free to come down and join in, and allow a few days for people to gather from ACROSS the country to join for monday, they're not going anywhere.

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Brentnauer

Originally posted by DocEmrick
Hate to say it, but peaceful protesting/demonstrations never change anything.

I think you're right... Has there been any peaceful demonstration that changed something quasi-significant in recent history?

Tea Party protests have caused a bit of bother to some.

Yeah, but those are financed by the Koch brothers.

Your party is nothing more than a front for the elites, and you sit here serving them willingly with a # eating grin.

Pathetic.

Wrong. Can I get you another cup of angry while you're spewing rhetoric?

And these people are being sponsored by SEIU and a bunch of angry progressives. But it's okay for THEM, though, right?
Enjoy your astro-turf, hater.

Going to head down there later today with my girlfriend and shes bringing her camera to document it. Will post videos, pictures etc when we come back.

Everyone who can join, should. Bring whatever message of truth you can.

Peace

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Brentnauer

Originally posted by DocEmrick
Hate to say it, but peaceful protesting/demonstrations never change anything.

I think you're right... Has there been any peaceful demonstration that changed something quasi-significant in recent history?

Tea Party protests have caused a bit of bother to some.

Yeah, but those are financed by the Koch brothers.

Your party is nothing more than a front for the elites, and you sit here serving them willingly with a # eating grin.

Pathetic.

Wrong. Can I get you another cup of angry while you're spewing rhetoric?

As long as I get to serve you another hot cup of shut the # up to warm your chilled bones, comrade

I was glad to wake up and check the livestream and it seems that the cops let the protestors be last night. I expected a early morning rousting by the NYPD. I am glad I was wrong on that one. Perhaps NYC needs the extra business the protestors are bringing to the economy.

Today, after reading this thread, I feel happiness like I didn't feel it in a long time. Thanks.

Ohhh burning....Two of my favourite rappers are their, looks good, wish something like that would happen in my city.