123 Alex Jones Lies

Originally posted by e11888
"Alex Jones said one thing this one time that I didnt agree with or that wasnt 100% accurate and that discredits everything else he's ever said in the 14+ years he's been doing radio"

Get serious. Alex Jones is the reason alot of people are awake. He is also one of the main reason Ron Paul is gaining so much traction this year. But Alex Jones sells gold so now he works for Israel? What?! We need to be discussing the REAL issues and not Alex Jones.

Who are you talking about? Who said anything like that? The thread is about 123 lies. Not one thing one time that was kind of off.

reply to post by WarminIndy


Thank you so much just for reminding me he is so heavily endorsed by the MaSheen!

I stopped regarding Alex Jones as credible after the week a few years back when he advertised an exclusive interview with Barrack Obama to be forthcoming....

... and then instead posted a fictitious text "interview" with Obama to try and make a philosophical and political point. Doing so wasn't the problem (it was actually well done in my opinion.) The false advertising beforehand was. If you feel the need to pander and lie in order to make points, I don't find you credible. Sorry.

Just my two cents. Peace.

Originally posted by FallenWun

Originally posted by ontarff
reply to post by FallenWun

 

Because it is a prison, genius.

I will dismiss your arrogant remark, tell me, what is the difference between a privately operated uninhabited "Residential Center", something that looks like a prison and a so called FEMA detention center? They all serve the same purpose. Please spare me the sarcastic comments. You have not yet supported your premise that Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura are liars.

Dude, read up on it just a little. It is a prison. They have had a lot of conflict getting contracts which is why it has no prisoners but not for lack of trying. Know who else is not in that prison? Everyone else. Bill Clinton never rounded me up and sent me there. Is that where you are?
The US has more prisoners than any country in the world. The fact that they still build prisons does not lead me to believe we are going to be rounded up and put there. It is a tiny prison at that.
You can say it is a FEMA camp all day long but the facts reveal it is a prison. I suppose not EVERY prison in the US is part of this plot?
You want to talk about corrpupt private prisons, I am with you. You want to tell me it is a FEMA camp and your proof is that it does not call itself one then you are barking up the wrong tree.

How many posts is this now and you have yet to produce a single FEMA camp.
Yet both myself and Warminindy have pointed out that FEMA camps listed by your sites are nothing.
So you cannot prove one single FEMA camp exists.
I have no problem proving at least one of the sites on that list is an empty field.
It is really easy.
Niagara Storage Facility.
It is from your list.
Go visit.
Look on google earth.
Research is easy if you just try.

After further investigation I stand corrected. The "residential center" in Jesse Ventura's video and the alleged FEMA detention center in Hardin Montana were both private prison projects of CCI www.corplancorrections.com... and operated by CCA. www.cca.com... I don't know that they have any emergency contingency contracts with FEMA. Do you?

However, like in Seattle, and other unused detention facilities, they could also be used in a state of national emergency for civil unrest.

I have discovered an identified FEMA detention facility near me was already investigated by others in this video.


I will acknowledge that I have learned something today and will remain skeptical of Alex Jones' information until corroborated by other sources. He is entertaining. I still believe that he has a good heart and is truly interested in motivating us to take action against government corruption and tyranny that can lead to a loss of our liberty.

So many TV/Radio/Internet media pundits have their own spin to suit their agenda. All information has to be questioned. It is sometimes difficult to find the truth. I have found this ATS resource is a good place to question information. Many times, we are still left at taking our own "best guess" based on a lack of empirical information. Sometimes we must agree to disagree.

ATTENTION ALL

Can we please focus on the topic and not on each other.

Insults to be handed in at the door.

Thank you.

Alex Jones is a passionate man, who believes in God, who is overwhelmed with the horror and trying to make sense of it. He has been as honest as he can, in a world of lies. He is not 100 percent right, but he's so MUCH MORE right than the MSM it's not even funny at all. It's not amusing. That he loses it from time to time only shows that he's a human overwhelmed by the horrible information he's trying to share. To call him a fear monger is like saying telling a child not to touch fire, is fear mongering against fire. It's the opposite of reality.

There are bad things happening, Alex Jones, like Ron Paul, has had the same message for a long time. Time and time again they are right.

Yet, we're supposed to believe he's a liar because he says some scary things you can look into and see reality for itself. If you rely only on MSM sources, you're doomed anyways. Look harder. The internet finally gave us the chance to pull the info together and see the world for what it is. Deal with it, please, so we can make it better.

Originally posted by Boomer1941
My question to you is are you employed by one of the Alphabet Agencies or one of the political parties in this Country

OK. Let's talk about alphabet agencies.

Here's a video where Alex Jones says Bill Clinton praised him:

www.youtube.com...



Here's a video where Alex Jones talks about sitting next to the George W. Bush's daughters in a restaurant:

www.youtube.com...



Here's a video where Alex Jones says the establishment trusts him having assessed him:

www.youtube.com...



So... let's ask the question again. Who do we think is working for the CIA? Some guy on YouTube and Above Top Secret, exposing Alex Jones' lies.... or Alex Jones, who has major media connections, does nothing but tell lies, and admits that the establishment trusts him...?

Huh? Who do you think is more likely to be the agent?

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
Warning -- Alex Jones troll above.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Go after the real bad guys will ya?

All I needed to see. Nice catch.

(and, congrats on 2x the stars as the OP)


And... My thoughts, exactly:

Originally posted by Helious
Less a liar and more of an ego maniac who loves to hear himself talk, add a "dash" of narcissism, a "splash" of mild schizophrenia and a "pinch" of idiocy for good measure, not a liar though!

edit on 17-9-2011 by Helious because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by FallenWun

Originally posted by e11888
"Alex Jones said one thing this one time that I didnt agree with or that wasnt 100% accurate and that discredits everything else he's ever said in the 14+ years he's been doing radio"

Get serious. Alex Jones is the reason alot of people are awake. He is also one of the main reason Ron Paul is gaining so much traction this year. But Alex Jones sells gold so now he works for Israel? What?! We need to be discussing the REAL issues and not Alex Jones.

Who are you talking about? Who said anything like that? The thread is about 123 lies. Not one thing one time that was kind of off.

Oh come on. All these Alex Jones bashing threads are the same. "Alex Jones said this and this 10 years ago and ever since he is a liar!" its all a bunch of pats on the back as we star each others rants. "Alex Jones is a spy because he does interviews with RT" or "Alex Jones is trying to sell gold" how about "Alex Jones has sponsors that makes him evil". Its all a bunch of crap and ill never for the life of me understand why the people on ATS hate this guy so much. Alex Jones unlocks minds. Thats why he is so successful. Period. End of discussion.

No. This isn't stuff he said 10 years ago, like his Y2K broadcast where he said the Russians were invading, the stores were running out of food, and you should send him money to stay alive.

No. All of the 123 lies are from 2008-2010.

You can tune into the show today, 2 weeks ago, a month ago, a year ago. He's always lying. He hasn't gone a single episode in his 16-year career without wildly lying.

Alex Jones fans are just going have to accept they've been duped.

Originally posted by e11888

Originally posted by FallenWun

Originally posted by e11888
"Alex Jones said one thing this one time that I didnt agree with or that wasnt 100% accurate and that discredits everything else he's ever said in the 14+ years he's been doing radio"

Get serious. Alex Jones is the reason alot of people are awake. He is also one of the main reason Ron Paul is gaining so much traction this year. But Alex Jones sells gold so now he works for Israel? What?! We need to be discussing the REAL issues and not Alex Jones.

Who are you talking about? Who said anything like that? The thread is about 123 lies. Not one thing one time that was kind of off.

Oh come on. All these Alex Jones bashing threads are the same. "Alex Jones said this and this 10 years ago and ever since he is a liar!" its all a bunch of pats on the back as we star each others rants. "Alex Jones is a spy because he does interviews with RT" or "Alex Jones is trying to sell gold" how about "Alex Jones has sponsors that makes him evil". Its all a bunch of crap and ill never for the life of me understand why the people on ATS hate this guy so much. Alex Jones unlocks minds. Thats why he is so successful. Period. End of discussion.

Timothy Leary and the Beatles also taught that '___' and transcendental meditation through yoga also unlocks minds. But a mind opening experience is not what Alex Jones brings to the table, what he does is make rumors, recirculate rumors and spread false information at the same time accusing others of doing that very thing. And since the OP posted a video telling us that there were 123 lies Alex Jones said that were proven to be false, that is what we are supposed to address. Alex Jones is like Rush Limbaugh and all the other pundits on both sides when they diatribe and rant and tell the audience they are stupid if they don't believe their side.

Shouting a lie does not make it truth and if something is true then it does not have to be screamed in such a manner. What I find interesting is this, while people believe the internet gives us free information, and it is good that we are able to access that information, we also need to take everything we see on the internet with a grain of salt. The internet is full of more disinformation than truth because all internet sites and blog posts are made by humans who have a vested interest in what they are saying. Information becomes skewed by that. All websites and blogs are from people's own interpretation and opinions, even Alex Jones and Infowars.

But if he tells one lie and it goes unproven then he has told a lie that was believed. Have you ever wondered how many more he is capable of? He is not giving new information, he is giving information he found on the internet. When he says a newspaper said something does he show the actual newspaper itself and tell you where he bought it? No, he just copies and pastes the information. If someone says they heard about it in a newspaper, go to the newspaper itself to see if what it says is true. And just because he says it is declassified, did he actually go to the National Archives to read the documents? So we don't know if it is even declassified or even if there is an actual source.

When you are in college you have to write all your essays and term papers and thesis using MLA, APA or Chicago Turbian style referencing. Wikipedia users are supposed to do this, but their facts are always an interpretation of what they referenced. Unless Alex Jones references anything, then what he says should be disregarded.

Their using light bulbs to spy on us and San Diego is planning on killing all white people?

Oh and yes Infowars.com Makes money by peddling products that pertain to their viewers beliefs. Like take the florid out of your water!
www.mcssl.com...

You see it gets people to be afraid that their using florid is being used to control your mind. Once he gets you good and scared he then tells you about a product that will remove it. Just like those who who sell global cooling/warming/climate change/ and now the new one global climate disruption. Once you're scared that the world is going to end they step up and say well I got the product just to help you!

Ah capitalism, even though I love it, It still has this problem. Though what system hasn't had this problem?

"The only rule that ever made sense to me I learned from a history, not an economics, professor at Wharton. "Fear," he used to say, "fear is the most valuable commodity in the universe." That blew me away. "Turn on the TV," he'd say. "What are you seeing? People selling their products? No. People selling the fear of you having to live without their products." ******' A, was he right. Fear of aging, fear of loneliness, fear of poverty, fear of failure. Fear is the most basic emotion we have. Fear is primal. Fear sells."
— Max Brooks (World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War)

If you really don't want to be a sheeple stop letting people rule you with fear. Now Alex Jones dose hit the nail on the head on some topics like trying to divide us and all that. Just see my new fancy signature. However that doesn't excuse him from his other lies and fear mongering.

reply to post by Mcupobob


You know that is right about the fear being used to promote advertising. When I was in college in our Effective Speaking class we had a group project based on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs pyramid. The very bottom of the pyramid is based on the most immediate needs of safety and that includes food, water, shelter and security. That seems to be where Alex Jones tends to target his audience. Since it the very base of the pyramid it also the biggest problem. At the very top of the pyramid is Self-Acutalization and the hardest to achieve and the hardest to keep. It is also the smallest.

By telling a person who has a house and a job and food in the refrigerator that if they don't watch out they will lose all of that. That is appealing to the base needs and because it is base it is the easiest to convince. And if it is the easiest to convince then people can be held there. They don't believe they should advance any higher because they worry about continuing to meet the base needs.

That is why Y2K worked to convince people and why people buy into the whole Mayan 2012 Doomsday. Because those events would destroy the base needs that people are so worried about. But if you have to stay there, you don't advance any higher and in Self-Actualization is the height of intellectual pursuits. Those who stay at the bottom do not seek intellectualism. Their primary function is to keep them at the base. Fear is a great motivating factor that keeps people at the base. The higher you go on the pyramid, the less fear you have and the more intellectual you become.

WarminIndy, you make some interesting points about the hierarchy of needs, fear, and intellectualism.

This is actually why it's so tedious for me to even make these videos debunking Jones, because it's not even difficult. It's just tedious and frustrating. But it needs to be done.

What people need to understand is that an Alex Jones episode does not sound like this video. He rarely makes any points at all. You have to go through 100s of episodes to even find this many things to debunk. One of the main tricks is the format and presentation of the show itself. He's using brainwashing techniques and psychological tricks more than actually spreading information.

I think it's more interesting to study how he tricks people, rather than debunking the stupid theories themselves. You're right that on a basic level, it is just survivalist scaremongering. But there are also very specific mind tricks he plays too.

One trick he plays is tying things together. He'll say 10 things, 1 is true, 9 are false, but if 1 is true, you assume the others must be true too... And the one that's true is always an obvious one, like, "politicians lie!", "the media is biased!", "the economy is crashing!"

Another thing he does is say he's popular, and therefore he must be telling the truth. This appeals to the weak-minded people out there who are always looking for a leader, or to be on the "winning team".

Another thing he does is create opposition to himself. He'll say, "people are accusing me of being a reptilian", "people are upset because I make money", "people nitpick at little things I say, like if I get a date wrong"... So his sheep followers think THESE are the reasons people attack him, not, say, because I just found 123 blatant, overt lies..

Another thing he does is censor the people phoning into his show, or posting messages on his articles or videos. This is intended to (1) push away people smart enough to debunk him, (2) honeypot trap everyone stupid enough to believe it... These are the exact things a social engineer does. They put the people into boxes, with clear-cut walls and boundaries, to keep a rigid hierarchy within the population.

Now, extending on this point, if you look at Alex Jones' media connections, you can see the establishment is not just promoting him "because they need to maintain credibility", as he says. No, they promote him because he is actually keeping his sheepish followers out of the way, and making it difficult for intelligent people to organise against the system.... I mean, take this thread. Post after post of generic nonsense. We're the only ones, right at the end of the thread, having any type of constructive discussion.

So in summary, Jones is an asset to the establishment because he keeps the hierarchy in place. He is one of their social engineer frontmen. Either that, or it's one stupid,materialistic, egotistical, sociopathic person leading legions of slightly more stupid people.

Originally posted by foood4thought
This is definitely the biggest Alex Jones debunking video I've ever seen.

123 lies are documented, with clips from his show played. The lies aren't actually debunked in the video, but most of these can be Googled in about 30 seconds and found to be false.

I haven't watched the video yet due to time constraints, but my comment doesn't require me to. If the creator of the video can't be bothered to debunk any of the 123 "lies", then he's really done nothing but put out a video saying "nuh uh!", has he? I don't know about you, but if I say "he's lying" I try to back it up with facts. That way I don't look like a tool.

/TOA

Originally posted by foood4thought
This is definitely the biggest Alex Jones debunking video I've ever seen.

123 lies are documented, with clips from his show played. The lies aren't actually debunked in the video, but most of these can be Googled in about 30 seconds and found to be false.

This is literally one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. Alex Jones is a joke, don't you think?

www.youtube.com...

Let's See...

You registered 2 months ago.

All your posts are about alex jones and how bad/uncredible he is.

Sure your not a shill or PR attack dog?

Originally posted by The Old American
I haven't watched the video yet due to time constraints, but my comment doesn't require me to. If the creator of the video can't be bothered to debunk any of the 123 "lies", then he's really done nothing but put out a video saying "nuh uh!", has he? I don't know about you, but if I say "he's lying" I try to back it up with facts. That way I don't look like a tool.

/TOA

Then have fun with this one.
Made to order.

Originally posted by FallenWun

Originally posted by The Old American
I haven't watched the video yet due to time constraints, but my comment doesn't require me to. If the creator of the video can't be bothered to debunk any of the 123 "lies", then he's really done nothing but put out a video saying "nuh uh!", has he? I don't know about you, but if I say "he's lying" I try to back it up with facts. That way I don't look like a tool.

/TOA

Then have fun with this one.
Made to order.

That one did much better. At least the creator had actually taken the time to write "nuh uh!" in subtitles.

Alex Jones is an entertainer. Anyone that believes every word of his ramblings is ripe for the picking. But making a video of "his lies" is wasting electrons. He gets ratings, and that is why he is on the air.

/TOA