NEW uneditted VIDEO. So Cal Sept 14. No Meteor!

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I posted this in the other thread which I thought was interesting.

Meteor Activity Outlook for September 10-16, 2011
By Robert Lunsford, in Meteor Showers

During this period the moon reaches its full phase on Monday September 12th. At this time the moon will lie opposite the sun and will be in the sky all night long. This is the worst time to try and view meteor activity this month as the intense moonlight will obscure all but the brightest meteors. Conditions will not improve until the moon wanes to its last quarter phase and does not rise until near 0100 local daylight time (LDT).

The estimated total hourly rates for evening observers this week is near two as seen from the northern hemisphere and one as seen from the southern hemisphere. For morning observers the estimated total hourly rates should be near eight as seen from mid-northern latitudes and five from mid-southern latitudes. The actual rates will also depend on factors such as personal light and motion perception, local weather conditions, alertness and experience in watching meteor activity. Rates are reduced during this period due to the intense moonlight.

www.amsmeteors.org...

Originally posted by DisownedSix
The reporter from az described two seperate objects. First one appeared to exit earths atmosphere, second object appeared to enter earths atmosphere. Sounds like the military tried some target practice on an "Unidentified Flying Object" but missed DARN better luck next time!

We will NOT have that kind of crazy talk here on ATS. Stop it this instant. The video I posted is a hoax and coincidentally what everyone was so puzzled by last night is a fireball. and asteroid. and meteor. and part of a satellite breaking up. and space junk.

So please Disownded Six, grow up and stop that tin-foil hat talk!

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it was clearly FLARES released in a pyramid shape later on that nite once the FLOOD of calls came in seeing a triangle shaped craft

these people are not stupid. they even got the az governor to lie for years

reply to post by Human_Alien
It looked just like the video kinda orange.It seemed to b traveling horizontal and moving pretty fast.I am not sure what it was but i remember thinking it's not looking like a meteor.

reply to post by Human_Alien

What you've seen is a space craft.

Our world is on the verge of Disclosure;

Yahn.....lol. You type has been saying that kind of stuff since I have been into this subject (30+ years). Funny how NOTHING ever happens, lol. And then folks like you just up and disappear, never to admit how far off from reality your ignorance has led you.

There is nothing big happening and no, we are not on the verge of disclosure. Man, if I had a nickle every-time some wide eyed believer said that crap I would be rich.

Tell ya what, if I'm still alive in twenty years we'll meet back here and you can give me all the excuses as to why you were wrong. You will have twenty years to come up with some clever ones. Funny how your type from 30 years ago are not around anymore, or interested in the subject anymore for folks like me to point out how friggin' wrong and gullible they were then.

Some things never change.

Originally posted by seeker11
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

I posted this in the other thread which I thought was interesting.

Meteor Activity Outlook for September 10-16, 2011
By Robert Lunsford, in Meteor Showers

During this period the moon reaches its full phase on Monday September 12th. At this time the moon will lie opposite the sun and will be in the sky all night long. This is the worst time to try and view meteor activity this month as the intense moonlight will obscure all but the brightest meteors. Conditions will not improve until the moon wanes to its last quarter phase and does not rise until near 0100 local daylight time (LDT).

The estimated total hourly rates for evening observers this week is near two as seen from the northern hemisphere and one as seen from the southern hemisphere. For morning observers the estimated total hourly rates should be near eight as seen from mid-northern latitudes and five from mid-southern latitudes. The actual rates will also depend on factors such as personal light and motion perception, local weather conditions, alertness and experience in watching meteor activity. Rates are reduced during this period due to the intense moonlight.

www.amsmeteors.org...

edit on 15-9-2011 by seeker11 because: (no reason given)

Thanks for this diddly

Contradict and confusion is what it's all about apparently.

NASA does it. The media loves it. Religions practice it and the governments perfected it. They seem to say one thing then--- do/say something else real fast hoping no one will notice. And when it does get noticed, they ignore it!

Now everybody say [[[[OM]]]]]

Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by fah0436
With the close up pictures at the end, anyone would be hard pressed to claim that the object was either man-made or natural.

That shape is artificial, it's a camera artefact, it happens with all cameras, when pointing to an out of focus bright object.

Not dismissing that at all however there were artists' renditions of what was seen last night (which I'll have to locate) showing a red 'tail'

Here's the thing. The news people were ON THIS immediately last night. They called officials and according to them, they (the officials) had no idea what this was.

Why is it, when enough times' goes by (to perhaps make up a cover-story) all of a sudden 'it's just a fireball'! Why wasn't it 'just a fireball' last night?
Don't we have people (NASA) and telescopes and satellites combing the skies? Wouldn't this have been detected by a 'professional'?
Okay, I can see this slipping by (I suppose) but then why wasn't this immediately identified last night?

And these are the same people we rely on to report to us concerning things out in space (like Elenin) yet they couldn't even figure this out which.....this was in our own skies!?





I don't believe it. (well, what else is new?).

NORAD should have been tracking it.

anyway to find out?

they should know what size and speed too.

reply to post by MainLineThis


Maybe if you stop looking, it'll present itself.
Just like 'love'. When you're looking, searching, wanting, yearning, needing it, it never seems to happen.

If you're looking for confirmation, stop looking to the government (aka: media)

Alien life has been here and are still showing up. Now whether all these UFOs (sorry, 'meteors') are them?.....we do not know. The only ones who know are the ones claiming responsibility or making assumptions like the scientific communities, And so far their track record is shady at best (swamp gas).

I've had my experience so this stuff is nothing. Well, it's frustrating only because I know the truth (to a certain extent) so if it's apparent to me and millions of others like me who have had our 'experience'...... we doubt very much that NASA or the governments aren't in the loop by now too.

I don't profess to know what they want, what they're doing, where they came from but I do know, they exist!

So my suggestion to you my friend is please, stop looking for confirmation and seek it out yourself. That's really all the advice I can sincerely give you. Because I care.

Originally posted by fooks




NORAD should have been tracking it.

anyway to find out?

they should know what size and speed too.

NORAD was probably having an 'alien drill' last night so whatever info they might've gotten was 'confused' with the real-time mock drill they were engaged in (just a little 9-11 humor but not really though.............*sigh*)

I have no idea. Anyway know?

Hey OP, the police, a few pilots, and news media reporters in helicopters, kids, and adult witnesses saw the meteor, and they all said it didn't last more than 10 seconds. So whatever this video is, it is not of the object that was spotted. It's not the meteor everyone is talking about.

People seem to be mixing different events all together into one.

-edit

Also, the meteor was said to have traveled from Southern California all the way to Las Vegas... What you show in your video seems to be more local and not really going anywhere. It seems like it wouldn't be visible form multiple states.

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
Hey OP, the police, a few pilots, and news media reporters in helicopters, kids, and adult witnesses saw the meteor, and they all said it didn't last more than than 10 seconds. So whatever this video is, it is not of the object that was spotted. It's not the meteor everyone is talking about.

People seem to be mixing different events all together into one.

One of the Posters above linked a UFO report sighting. And in there people were reporting that this was going by real slow and some said it was real fast. That's what's a bit confusing. I mean 'fast' is fast. I don't think it's that relative.
So who knows. Maybe there were two sightings. I'll keep checking YouTube (I subscribe to many UFO accounts) and wait to see if anyone else captured this/these sighting whose yet to make it public.

Very strange.

Originally posted by seeker11
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

I posted this in the other thread which I thought was interesting.

Meteor Activity Outlook for September 10-16, 2011
By Robert Lunsford, in Meteor Showers

During this period the moon reaches its full phase on Monday September 12th. At this time the moon will lie opposite the sun and will be in the sky all night long. This is the worst time to try and view meteor activity this month as the intense moonlight will obscure all but the brightest meteors. Conditions will not improve until the moon wanes to its last quarter phase and does not rise until near 0100 local daylight time (LDT).

The estimated total hourly rates for evening observers this week is near two as seen from the northern hemisphere and one as seen from the southern hemisphere. For morning observers the estimated total hourly rates should be near eight as seen from mid-northern latitudes and five from mid-southern latitudes. The actual rates will also depend on factors such as personal light and motion perception, local weather conditions, alertness and experience in watching meteor activity. Rates are reduced during this period due to the intense moonlight.

www.amsmeteors.org...

edit on 15-9-2011 by seeker11 because: (no reason given)

Meteors do not bounce from side to side, while this vid is less than desirable, the captures from the other night from several different perspectives and 3 different states and documentation of its erratic flight throw the mwtor theory right out the window... I have done years of sky watching and witnessed literally thousands of metors shooting stars and showers in that time I have seen dual color dust trails massive multi color burners and slow moving break ups, I have never once seen a meteor move side to side in its flight path. Sorry but I can not agree with Amse.

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We are still missing a piece to the puzzle. Last night, the same lights were seen in Phoenix. It was also said that where the "meteor" landed, was surrounded by police and roped off. Why is there no information, video, pics, on what was roped off? If it was a meteor, and a piece fell to earth, as they say, why can't we see it? That would be quit the video to see a steaming meteor in the ground, right? Just sayin . . .

reply to post by Human_Alien


Because I know that extraterrestrial craft exist (I seen one), I have to try and debunk all video I see nowadays and be very careful of what I do qualify as "unknown". Having said that, this is intriguing from one aspect.

First off the object is coming towards the camera. The twin trails of the dual engine exhaust are visible behind the object lit up by the sun high in the atmosphere. They always look red like that before dawn and after dusk. You can also see them twirl a bit before they disappear behind the object. That little tornadic signature from the twin contrails means a) engines and b) wings. Sorry about that.

Having said that, the brightness of what can only be landing lights coming at the observer are "too bright". I don't know at what angle the thingy is descending, but dropping below the condensation altitude for exhaust fumes implies it is descending pointing straight at the observer. There are also no blinking lights or the INTL recognition pattern of red and green for civilian aircraft. So military?

I don't know what time stamp is on here and don't know about media releases of something else at similar time and location. This is not meteor or reentering debris from manmade. Manmade come in shallow on purpose (so they burn up), a lot quicker than this. Both reentering junk and meteors have tails.

Does anyone remember the Phoenix lights? There was an earlier mass sighting of unexplained, and then later dropping of flares by military to confuse people about the real events. This could in fact be a Gov. "hoax" to create confusion. This object does not look like the media releases of green and orange sparks from fast shallow fireball with a tail that they been replaying. Remember the media does not cover these UFO events so much, so read between those lines as well.

Then the bright light continues to track straight line at same speed closer and closer to observer neither changing direction or shedding any debris or sparks. That HAS to be a craft. At the end its out of focus is all. It does shut off at the end, to hide? An aircraft with landing lights continues to the ground with lights on all the way.

I hope to see more videos of this object come up in the near future to better identify this. Right now it appears to be a terrestrial craft, prolly military, doing strange misleading manuers oer LA.

OMG its not "who knows maybe it was two sightings", thats exactly what it is! for christ sake thats what ive been trying to explain to you. there was in fact a meteor that screamed across the SW. In fact, it appears there was also a "UFO" around nearly the same time.

another thing, peoples reports now a day arent even that credible.. especially with tupe of thing. everyone want to jump on the band wagon as soon as the word is out.

Originally posted by Human_Alien
Do you debunkers with degrees mean to tell us that THIS is a meteor? Why can't the 'officials' figure it out then? Are we going to let this just fade away into oblivion and resurrect it in a few weeks with a sudden explanation ...like 'space junk'?

How can this bright white glowing 'thing' leaving a bright reddish streak be a meteor? Or anything we're familiar with for that matter?

You know, I am getting highly suspicious with the timing of that satellite that's due to 'fall to Earth' at the end of the month. I think it might be a deflection and cover-story.

I'm not buying any of this. Not even with any of my American money that's just about worthless!


Select Hi-Def on YouTube

[snip]San Clemente, California - This incredibly awesome UFO was captured in Southern California on September 14th 2011 outside the back yard of a resident that was able to run into his house and grab a camera and video was was left of a orange and green object that was cruising across the sky. This is original footage of the event still unedited from the camera memory stick. This footage was taken in High Definition and is posted as such. At this time the camera man wishes to remain anonymous until a reputable news source is contacted. "it looked like a red comet with green glow around it"

Examine the poster of the video jfrissina. He/she has 40 uploaded videos, with titles such as

"Shark Attack Teen Girl Caught On Video"
"2nd dead alien body found at ufo"
"ghost caught on tape during radiation leak"

All with at least 140,000 views. She also has multiple videos of alleged ufo's in places such as machu pichu, london, and even the bp oil spill, and more with anywhere from 30,000 views to 1.3 million.

Jfrissina is a views farmer. Somebody who is paid to produce videos that look perfect, that farm more views than any snuff film can achieve, specifically so that advertisments will be on the page. She/he/them utilize keywords and recent events to capitalize on the fact that most people will watch anything they see on youtube, with out so much as thinking about where it came from and how it got there. Please examine her channel and watch out for anybody on youtube name jfrissina

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by karendva
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

We are still missing a piece to the puzzle. Last night, the same lights were seen in Phoenix. It was also said that where the "meteor" landed, was surrounded by police and roped off. Why is there no information, video, pics, on what was roped off? If it was a meteor, and a piece fell to earth, as they say, why can't we see it? That would be quit the video to see a steaming meteor in the ground, right? Just sayin . . .

THIS! there were all sorts of people talking about roadblocks and cordons
some follow up on that
would probably help a lot in identifying
whatever has happened here