Here's an Argument YOU Can't WIn

Originally posted by gator1177
reply to post by 547000

 

child rape is perceived as wrong cause the majority of people perceive it as wrong......majority always wins in most cases
and in this case good

edit on 15-9-2011 by gator1177 because: (no reason given)

I highlighted YOUR text, i.e., the words that YOU typed in red.
If the majority wins, then they are called winners. Not putting words in your mouth.

reply to post by JibbyJedi


Exactly! So to say that i'm right because it's MY perception is in fact WRONG. There are other factors that need to be considered.

i just take in all of the written ''facts'' and make up my mind on what i choose to beleive, i dont know if they are true or not they are just the things that make more sense to me

547000 and ink whatever are the reason i posted this thread their reality is all that they see and they cant see beyond it and they will fight you tooth and nail just to build their ego to what end? puff out their chests like it means something? to say they know how it all works? whatever their reason its their experience i just wish they would enjoy it more






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reply to post by DaveNorris


and thats all you can do bro is live you experience the best you can

reply to post by iNkGeEk

doesnt the majority win in most cases? prove me wrong if you can and im talking about in societal means not in individual experience jeezzzz

reply to post by gator1177


oh i enjoy life very much. I have a loving wife and an awesome little girl. i enjoy my job, i'm going to school to get a degree in something that i like learning about. i have fun. i enjoy living my life.

i dont need to come up with some BS excuse that I pull out whenever someone tries to tell me i'm wrong. your argument of "its not how i perceive it" does ALWAYS hold water. it's an argument that is fluid, you can make it fit what ever shape you want. so no matter what the discussion is about, all you have to say is "nope. i see it this way." then you can take your ball and go home.

at least, that's how i perceive it to be.

reply to post by gator1177


now you are changing the subject. I never said the majority doesnt always win. you said to prove where you said winner and accused me of putting words in your mouth.

I did it.

now you are putting words in my mouth by saying that i said the majority doesn't always win...which i never said.

reply to post by Fraam


a breath of fresh air thank you so much!!!!

reply to post by iNkGeEk

yes you did grats

reply to post by iNkGeEk


where you are wrong is the fact that you think what you say changes anything outside of yourself or what you believe...you see i've just changed you and you don't even know it....slightly

i really do believe in all that ink and 547 have said child rape is wrong 2+2=4 who cant believe in that? in our reality? i think the sky is blue, a ball drops if i let go of it etc......yet some people will argue til death takes them......

and that must be all there is...... what we see is what we get.....nothing more.....*cough* bs case closed......bed calls

reply to post by gator1177


So if you do believe those things and you argued against them just to argue...doesn't that make you a troll? you know, just arguing to argue.

reply to post by gator1177


Step outside the drama for a while. Understand that we, as a species, have been conditioned to behave this way and it's really nobody's fault that you can find turmoil around each corner. We're all, to various degrees, subject of the programing. It is a war alright, but this war each of us must face alone. A day will come when things will flow more harmoniously, but this time the change has to come from the individual, not from groups or organizations. You are the change that you are struggling to see.
Understand this and you will experience the fresh air with your every breath.

The OP is correct. You cannot win this argument because one is not allowed to engage in a debate aka argument. For me, Christianity is not truth. Aliens might be so might a whole bunch of other stuff. My chest burns when I think about the stars and moon. It does not burn when I think about Christianity or any of the world's religions. My big toe itches. Anyone dare argue with me about that?

reply to post by gator1177


I can directly relate to your statements.

Have you ever noticed how most truth is relative, and based on some very subjective opinions.

This really makes most of these truths questionable. So much for "absolute" truth.

On a personal level;

I often tell people that I have something to look forward to in live. One day I will be proven right about something.

Many people have a terrible disappiontment comming. One day they will find out they were wrong about something

Originally posted by gator1177
It seems so many threads want to state the obvious and this is how it is!

What is truth and how do you know your truth and what you perceive is the truth?

What makes what you think the truth is the actual truth?

please don't quote scientific research cause it's all relative to who did the research.....and that doesn't make it the truth......

please don't quote the bible or any other religious text cause you don't know who wrote it or why and you certainly don't know if it's true you just have faith it is and that's not the same thing as truth....

please don't say the obvious i.e. the sun goes up the sun goes down.....


what I am getting at is why do people think what they know is the absolute truth when we are in the infancy of our society?

if you are angry enough to change the world then do it go ahead and try but why sit here and talk and argue what is or isn't when nothing that is said will solve anything?

don;t get me wrong i love this site for all the info it conveys but for all the petty arguing....i disdain it....

you're right i'm wrong i'll admit it you happy?

...by your own definition and terms, your post is untruthful.
Kinda sucks when you undermine your own point, doesn't it.

Originally posted by gator1177
547000 and ink whatever are the reason i posted this thread their reality is all that they see and they cant see beyond it and they will fight you tooth and nail just to build their ego to what end? puff out their chests like it means something? to say they know how it all works? whatever their reason its their experience i just wish they would enjoy it more






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Relativism is morally and intellectually bankrupt. I think you are puffing up your ego expecting people to agree with your position.

reply to post by gator1177

please don't quote scientific research cause it's all relative to who did the research.....and that doesn't make it the truth......

Um no, science is not relative to who did the research, take 2 minutes of your time and google "scientific method"

Our society wouldn't exist without the scientific research that has been done.