I Am a Straight, Married Christian Male in Support of Gay Marriage

reply to post by DRAZIW


Hopefully you have a wash before you engage in sexual relations!

And, I hear the prostate in the back end of a man can result in quite, stimulating experiences!

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Yep. Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Lyoto Machida drinks his own Urine while training and before a fight. It's an ancient Samurai practice. No, I don't drink my own urine. ~SheopleNation

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Actually, you're the only one mentioning a reform of a church, not actually specifying what church may I add..

Two humans of the same gender want to hold their marriage ceremony in a building, if that building is being ran by a religion, sorry, but that religion needs to obey by the state's laws, the state doesn't obey the religion's laws!

Originally posted by voidla
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Actually, you're the only one mentioning a reform of a church, not actually specifying what church may I add..

Two humans of the same gender want to hold their marriage ceremony in a building, if that building is being ran by a religion, sorry, but that religion needs to obey by the state's laws, the state doesn't obey the religion's laws!

As it is now, any Christian church has a right not to perform even a funeral service. Just ask any Catholic priest to perform it for someone who committed suicide and then tell me what the Church is obligated to do.!
Not to mention that a Catholic Church does not have to perform any ritual at all for any non-Catholic.

Originally posted by SuperTripps
what about all the straight people out there who have been bashed for many years now for believing in "duality of the sexes"

What are you talking about? What does "duality of the sexes" mean? And please show me something that indicates that straight people are being bashed for believing in it... I have no idea what you're talking about.

they just think male and female is scientific fact of life and feel uncomfortable there is a small minority of agenda-based people elevating this cause?

Aww.... They feel 'uncomfortable' do they? Poor things. It's too bad they're threatened by a small minority of people who just want equal rights. They sound pretty paranoid and weak to me.

imagine if all the gay and abortion lefties and righties put their minds to something REAL

What's are "gay and abortion lefties and righties"?

But yeah, it would be FABULOUS if the left and the right could come together and work toward solving REAL issues. It would be GREAT of they would actually agree about smaller government and more personal liberties like freedom of choice and association. It would be FANTASTIC of everyone would just get out of each others business instead of worrying about who sticks their what into where and what their legal agreements say. I would be THRILLED if this would happen.

Originally posted by voidla
reply to post by DRAZIW

 

Hopefully you have a wash before you engage in sexual relations!

And, I hear the prostate in the back end of a man can result in quite, stimulating experiences!

Nowhere as stimulating as withdrawing one's own testes inside the body and have them embrace the prostrate from in front!

An old yogi practice that turns on the light permanently for the man.

That's why only "men" have the "key".

Sorry women, it's God's design. I didn't do it.

Wow, I leave for 6 hours, Thread explodes.

Originally posted by rumor21


I'm all for people loving each other, but gay man sex is gross!!!!!

I dont really think this kind of response is welcomed in ATS, I mean.. Is this constructive at all?

Originally posted by DRAZIW

Originally posted by voidla
reply to post by DRAZIW

 

Hopefully you have a wash before you engage in sexual relations!

And, I hear the prostate in the back end of a man can result in quite, stimulating experiences!

Nowhere as stimulating as withdrawing one's own testes inside the body and have them embrace the prostrate from in front!

An old yogi practice that turns on the light permanently for the man.

That's why only "men" have the "key".

Sorry women, it's God's design. I didn't do it.

It's impossible for the testicles to go inside the body.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

imagine if all the gay and abortion lefties and righties put their minds to something REAL

What's are "gay and abortion lefties and righties"?

But yeah, it would be FABULOUS if the left and the right could come together and work toward solving REAL issues. It would be GREAT of they would actually agree about smaller government and more personal liberties like freedom of choice and association. It would be FANTASTIC of everyone would just get out of each others business instead of worrying about who sticks their what into where and what their legal agreements say. I would be THRILLED if this would happen.

Errr.. so are you two implying that civil rights is not a REAL subject? How would you like it if blacks, asians, and all those other past discriminatied groups still where discriminated against? Hmmm? Thats what I thought.

Originally posted by discharged77
If it is proven that there is a "gay gene" than I will say that being gay is just how you are born, but that has yet to be shown. I know a guy who was married for 15 years and had 3 kids, then one day he leave his wife and now he goes with other gays. I ask him was he always knowing he was a homo? He told me that he just got sick of his wife's nagging and that he turned gay. I have heard these stories elsewhere also.

Yep, I know of an almost identical story.

I knew a guy who was happily married, 2 grown up kids and completely heterosexual, the guy hits 50 and is shown some pictures of naked men and BAM! within 2 years he's left his wife (not that easily) and was a 100% happy gay man - said it was the best thing that ever happened to him.. It wasn't because of his wife, it was purely an untapped preference..

Is there a conspiracy in this OP that im not getting? Apart from social commentary (which is fine) whats the point of this OP apart from the poster letting us all know what he feels about the topic.. Well thats just awesome. i'll make sure to add it to the list of things that dont matter.

Is case you haven't noticed the global economy is in melt down the planet is under constant attack from internal and external sources. We are polluting and destroying plants and animals ona scale never seen before. And humans as a society are becoming more isolated. So im sure this topic means something to you and thats great but a little perspective on the matter will quickly reveal what we should all be concerned with.

corrupt humans leading us all down the halls of oblivion.

once we sort out the megalomaniacal psychopaths that are trying to kill us all then we can cool our feet with the luxury of time, to discuss such trivial topics.

Why don't all you religious people staring concentrating on what going on in the REAL world today, and not on some ridiculous book that has been re-written a 1000 times..

I mean ffs, it's getting beyond a joke..

As a Libertarian, I believe it is up to the people to make their own choices, so yes I support gay marriage.

Honestly, who cares? its not like its going to change your relationship, you believe in gay marriage, you dont, end of discussion, whats the point of arguing or fighting about it

Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
Is there a conspiracy in this OP that im not getting? Apart from social commentary (which is fine) whats the point of this OP apart from the poster letting us all know what he feels about the topic.. Well thats just awesome. i'll make sure to add it to the list of things that dont matter.

Is case you haven't noticed the global economy is in melt down the planet is under constant attack from internal and external sources. We are polluting and destroying plants and animals ona scale never seen before. And humans as a society are becoming more isolated. So im sure this topic means something to you and thats great but a little perspective on the matter will quickly reveal what we should all be concerned with.

corrupt humans leading us all down the halls of oblivion.

once we sort out the megalomaniacal psychopaths that are trying to kill us all then we can cool our feet with the luxury of time, to discuss such trivial topics.

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NEWSFLASH: ATS IS NOT ONLY CONSPIRACY THEORIES
This is the social and civil unrest area, yes, it is in the conspiracy SECTION but any civil rights OP can be posted here.

I am a white, middle class, middle-aged, employed, agnostic, heterosexual male
and I am AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE.

I am also against polygamy, animal husbandry, interracial marriage and, IN FACT,
am against marriage of any governmentally structured kind.

The government has NO business licensing, regulating. or over-seeing marriage
AT ALL.

Marriage is for/between two consenting adults, whatever higher power they choose (if any),
and their friends and family.

BTW, my partner and I have five children, five grandchildren, and twenty five years
together. Government was not involved at all.

Government is there for the amicable dissolution of marriage and that should be its
only capacity in this regard.

Originally posted by rival
I am a white, middle class, middle-aged, employed, agnostic, heterosexual male
and I am AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE.

I am also against polygamy, animal husbandry, interracial marriage and, IN FACT,
am against marriage of any governmentally structured kind.


Government is there for the amicable dissolution of marriage and that should be its
only capacity in this regard.

If your "against animal husbandry" You better god danm be a veggie because if your not, your a hypocrite. Oh BTW, Why are you against interracial marriage.. isn't that whole pure blood thing sorta, oh i dont know, nazi like?

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Legally for tax purposes sure why not. through the church.. well


The new testament does not really talk against homosexuality. the old testament is pretty much null and void when jesus came around. Jesus never talked about Homosexuality but most of the references in corinthians and timothy point to sodomy and male prostitutes. which can be viewed as homosexuality.

Mentioning the old testament makes me think you want a reaction. if you really believe and read the bible i wonder why you chose to focus on that and not on the observation that the new testament and Jesus do not flat out condem it.

at most it is said they will not inherit the kingdom of GOD. which in my mind they are free to do what they want. just like we can fornicate and commit adultery and anything else.

I don't agree with homosexuality but it does not bother me. I believe it is a form of natural selection where the herd is culled of genes naturally.

honestly i hate this topic as it is a hot button used in politics to divide and conquer the people from uniting against the real issues.

I think gay people want to get married so as to be on equal footing with straight people. Not allowing 'marriage' between gay people implies that 'gay' is somehow unacceptable. Marriage as I see it has a great deal to do with religion. I am a gay female, who wants to one day meet another woman, with whom I will spend the rest of my life loving, and eventually have a family. I don't have great faith in religion, and marriage to me simply implies a life commitment and recognition with the law. I am satisfied with civil partnership, but despite being an atheist, I am still angry that I can't be 'married'. This is solely because I feel I should be allowed equal opportunities as straight people.

When people say it's wrong to be gay, I don't understand it. To me it's like being born a particular skin colour, or race. You can't help it. Being gay is entirely consensual, like any other adult relationship. Marriage is simply a desire to 'fit in' with society, and be acknowledged as being normal.

I wish that I could see the future where none of this really mattered. At the end of the day gay rights and opinions are so minor compared to some of the serious problems out there. We should be concentrating on progressing humanity, curing starvation and disease, and other serious matters.

Gay people may be amongst the minority...but we still make up a rather large percentage of the human race! Inevitably in the future, there will be equal rights. I won't let some book written centuries ago dictate how to live my life. And quite frankly, my mother is on her 4th marriage...who wants the hassel??!!