Please hear me out: I believe we have alien craft poised over major cities

Originally posted by daggyz
If there is any proof that millions suffer from mental delusions and it's now an actual epidemic..... then this is it.

Another with nothing to contribute, nothing to say. You've revealed you know nothing. Good job.

Originally posted by Visiting ESB
They would move from airplanes but not birds. Besides, they are probably too low to be in the flight path of most airplanes.

...and each time they moved, they would make that sound, right?

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by Visiting ESB
They would move from airplanes but not birds. Besides, they are probably too low to be in the flight path of most airplanes.

...and each time they moved, they would make that sound, right?

No, I never suggested that the sound is due to movement of UFOs. The sound is likely something else other than an engine.

Originally posted by Visiting ESB
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As for why planes don't hit them: they're too low for airplanes to run into them. But birds do hit them and did so this past January, 2011. Blunt force trauma in mid-flight. Explain that one with the silly Occam's Razor, which is the tool of last resort when you can't find any other way to explain an anomalous event.

I have circumnavigated the United states at between 1000' above ground level and 10,000' AGL and mostly at about 4000' AGL -- Not sure how they could be "too low" to run into -- there is a lot of VFR traffic between sea level and 18000' above sea level -- and a ton of IFR traffic between there and 40000'

There are pretty much planes everywhere. The VFR pilots are not required to file a flight plan - do not remain in contact with ATC and do not have radar -- the can just fly for fun. Then you have traffic helicopters rescue helicopters and ultra lights.

There are cases going back to the 1930's of planes colliding with invisible objects, actually. In one case I remember the engine block of the plane was sliced in half. There have been reports of military jets running into objects they did not see in the sky as recently as 3 years ago.

The UFO hovering over the Chicago airport recently was not the first time such an event has happened, similar events have been reported all over the World.

Another very famous UFO case off the top of my head happened in Iraq when an object was seen hovering over a city at night. Like a lot of these reports the object alternated between visibility and invisibility both optical and on radar.

One video, good or bad does not "debunk" the entire phenomenon, decades of case history, etc.

I've seen quite a few reports of people who have seen military radar displays, had the operator point out objects and been told that operators see them all the time. They are invisible, often show up on military radars and just seem to hover in place as if observing everything. I'm sure this is something that takes place in specific locations more than others but I've read enough similar reports to think there might be something to it.

Originally posted by ecoparity
There are cases going back to the 1930's of planes colliding with invisible objects, actually. In one case I remember the engine block of the plane was sliced in half. There have been reports of military jets running into objects they did not see in the sky as recently as 3 years ago.

The UFO hovering over the Chicago airport recently was not the first time such an event has happened, similar events have been reported all over the World.

Another very famous UFO case off the top of my head happened in Iraq when an object was seen hovering over a city at night. Like a lot of these reports the object alternated between visibility and invisibility both optical and on radar.

One video, good or bad does not "debunk" the entire phenomenon, decades of case history, etc.

I've seen quite a few reports of people who have seen military radar displays, had the operator point out objects and been told that operators see them all the time. They are invisible, often show up on military radars and just seem to hover in place as if observing everything. I'm sure this is something that takes place in specific locations more than others but I've read enough similar reports to think there might be something to it.

Thank you! Splitting hair over how/when/why ufos move out of the way of our primitive little aircraft is not the point of this thread as others have tried to make it.

Here's my only concern. If there are in reality "cloaked" spaceships, why aren't airplanes and other flying aircraft bumping into these things? I've heard these strange noises around where i live (Los Angeles, CA) but since it is a major city and home to one of the biggest airports (LAX) there's always jet planes, commercial airliners, military planes, Goodyear Blimps, etc. flying low and high in different parts of the city.

In that video where it shows clouds "bending" over and passing through something, you would think if a plane bumped into, well that would cause a collision of some sort. After all clouds are NOT made out solid material as a plane.

Another example of people discounting reality to inflate poorly constructed theories .

This thread is in desperate need of a [HOAX] tag.

That video has been discussed to death already... and now you have the crackpots bringing their equally imaginative theories about bird deaths, fish die offs, strange noises and mental illness.....

Yeah, if we see or hear something we can't explain, it must be UFO's right ?

Could explain this...





..... its the wind turbine in the UK that got hit by a UFO

Originally posted by Dachende

Yeah, if we see or hear something we can't explain, it must be UFO's right ?

It used to be god or gods

Originally posted by Visiting ESB

Thank you! Splitting hair over how/when/why ufos move out of the way of our primitive little aircraft is not the point of this thread as others have tried to make it.

How is asking questions splitting hairs?? Not asking questions is the sin.

Originally posted by 11I11
Could explain this...





..... its the wind turbine in the UK that got hit by a UFO

On one hand these things are so sophisticated that they can avoid every cessna 150 in the world and on the other hand -- clumsy enough to fly into a structure - because ..... they didn't see it.

On one hand these things are so sophisticated that they can avoid every cessna 150 in the world and on the other hand -- clumsy enough to fly into a structure - because ..... they didn't see it.

You are not being serious! How the hell can you even begin to understand how extraterrestrial beings function. What makes you think they can actually see? We do not know a thing, only our own laws of physics.

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 1/15/2020
TAGS: PGOV PREL PHUM TI
SUBJECT: MAYOR MEETS AMBASSADOR, CONFIRMS EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE

CLASSIFIED BY: Ken Gross, Ambassador, EXEC, DoS.
REASON: 1.4 (b), (d)
¶1. (C) Summary: In a platitude-ridden meeting, Dushanbe Mayor
Mahmadsaid Ubaidulloev said upcoming elections would be free and
fair, that contributions to the Roghun Dam were voluntary, and
that the losses suffered by the United States in Afghanistan
were felt by Tajiks as their own. Ubaidulloev asked for help in
getting Tajik students admitted to Harvard University, but
effectively declined to help find a new location for an American
Corner in Dushanbe. He asserted the existence of life on other
planets, caveating this by noting that we should focus on
solving our problems on Earth. End Summary.



AFGHANISTAN



¶2. (SBU) On January 13 Ambassador called on Dushanbe Mayor and
Chairman of the upper house of Parliament Mahmadsaid Ubaidulloev
at his parliamentary office. The Mayor began the meeting with a
lengthy discourse on Afghanistan, thanking the United States for
its contributions and sacrifices there, and saying that U.S.
activities there were very important "as we enter the third
millennium and the 21st century." Ubaidulloev thought the main
task there was to build a sense of national identity among
ethnically disparate groups, and said the United States was an
example for this. He noted that "war is very dangerous", and
said "we know there is life on other planets, but we must make
peace here first."

Source: http://__._/cable/2010/01/10DUSHANBE82.html

Originally posted by 11I11

On one hand these things are so sophisticated that they can avoid every cessna 150 in the world and on the other hand -- clumsy enough to fly into a structure - because ..... they didn't see it.

You are not being serious! How the hell can you even begin to understand how extraterrestrial beings function. What makes you think they can actually see? We do not know a thing, only our own laws of physics.

But I am led to believe that they did see an airplane and moved their cloaked vehicle to avoid contact. You know see has many more meaning that light and eyes don't you. Perhaps I should have used the word detect. How the hell do think we can know anything unless we make observations, look for correlations, ask questions. That is after all how science works.

Originally posted by Visiting ESB
No, I never suggested that the sound is due to movement of UFOs. The sound is likely something else other than an engine.

My bad, I thought you had suggested those strange sounds being heard around the world were coming from these motherships.

Originally posted by NeoVain
This is all part of the governments plot of staging a fake alien invasion to fool the public into uniting the worlds military into fighting a imagined alien threat. The final goal is a one world government.

I bet we wont see any real aliens and plasma/laser weaponry though, not even any force fields, since they will rely on these cheap tricks to fool most of us.

That's exactly what they are planning to do. It's called the last card. Ex Nazi, German Engineer and Scientist Wernher Von Braun predicted that they would do this. ~SheopleNation

a few weeks ago me and a few friends were out hunting
my friend fired a signal shot up into the air to get our attention he swears that as he did this he heard a thud and the dented bullet fell back at his feet
he still has the bullet
he seemed really freaked out but i still think he is probably messing around and had just brought the dented bullet with him to play a trick on us
this thread just made me think about it again.who knows

not sure if anyone has posted this yet - dont have time yet to read through the replies. Aboutt he vid you posted: first of all, they are using a distorting lens. If you check out the landscape you can see an exaggerated curavture to it. I get the same thing when I use my cheap pretend wide angle lens on my camera. Any clouds avoe it are going to naturally be curved as they approach the camera. Whether or not they will form such a prefect semi-circle I have no proof yet. Guess i can go out next time the clouds are banding like that and take a few pics to show. So I can't take the vid as any kind of evidence yet, although it is a neat vid to watch!
As for the bird deaths, when they were first in the news about the blunt force trauma, the first thing I thought of was a cloaked ship too. But there just isnt enough evidence of that yet. I would think there would be more news of it, more birds, some kid whos kite wacks into something invisible. Wish whoever made the vid could have gone out and got a thousand helium balloons and released them to see if they "bounced". As for the birds, they are brittle things, and I can understand how a sonic boom or firework percussion could crush them. on the fence about it -
and one other thought - what would a cloaked ship be doing above such a property as in the vid - not over the white house or something monumental?
all in all, it is a neat thread and definately a nice twist from the usual. Thanks OP!

The video of the "cloaked UFO" could be just a parhelic circle.

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