DEBUNK THIS - There WERE NO human rights abuses in Libya according to UN Human Rights report

None at all. (meant to be facetious or sarcastic)

Sorry if this offends anyone or takes up time for ATS management to delete due to violations. I just thought the photos were appropriate for the thread, Perhaps I'm wrong. I did credit the source of the photos and now too the publisher in my edit. First one reminded me of Soylent Green so I saved it.

I don't have the time, or energy to hop on a plane to research the validity of the articles claims as far as who's responsible for the dead bodies, propaganda and what not. so I'll leave that to you.

War is ugly and I hate what men do to men.

3 of 30 photos from this article. "Time" The battle for Tripoli

Photographs by Yuri Kozyrev

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The problem with providing news articles as supporting evidence is that you don't know where the news is coming from. It could be coming from who the article says it is or it could be coming from the CIA. The CIA have been known to give out false information to gain leverage.

Was Ghaddafi evil? At this point we must choose the lesser of 2 evils. You either pick Ghaddafi (who was no real threat to our freedom and peace) or you pick the unknown (rumors flying around it could be an alliance with Al Qaeda).

I think some posters here are missing the point that I was using that woman's story merely as an EXAMPLE that human rights abuses WERE committed in Libya by Gaddafi's regime - as per the topic of this thread.

Originally posted by Equinox99
The problem with providing news articles as supporting evidence is that you don't know where the news is coming from. It could be coming from who the article says it is or it could be coming from the CIA. The CIA have been known to give out false information to gain leverage.

Was Ghaddafi evil? At this point we must choose the lesser of 2 evils. You either pick Ghaddafi (who was no real threat to our freedom and peace) or you pick the unknown (rumors flying around it could be an alliance with Al Qaeda).

when you are this level of understanding the world why even bother to visit a site such as the one you r on?

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you should have written a note .

Time Magazine - known bootlicker of US fascist corporatocracy . Gave Hitler man of the year award.

Time magazine must be showing rebel crimes as Ghadaffi crimes ,just like how Der Sturmer showed nazi crimes as jewish crimes and claimed that they are liberating jews from jews themselves.

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I just know it's ugly, it's a crime & humans were abused. I'm not really in to the blame game, but thanks for the heads up. Propaganda - what isn't in the U.S. media?

Perhaps I'll do a quick edit.

what's most disturbing is that these zionists slash gov't suckups
don't value human life animal life wildlife or nature whatsoever.
If they did, No living creature would suffer, Ever.

These copouts are a sad excuse for having to create more war and
terror. They need to be Relieved of Duty, i hope someone with balls
steps up to the plate and takes them on, like that man Annaji in India
did only days ago. Come on America, you need only 1 Man to stand
up and do that, the rest will follow, who will it be?

I must add ... i'm not sure there's anyone left in America 'with' the balls
to stand up and speak out on behalf of the rest. Prove me wrong.

Originally posted by Kryties
I think some posters here are missing the point that I was using that woman's story merely as an EXAMPLE that human rights abuses WERE committed in Libya by Gaddafi's regime - as per the topic of this thread.

I think your point was clear, but ..... there is no proof that the photo is genuine, it could well be another fake produced by the CIA or other agency. There is a long history of fakes being produced by the government and their agencies, as most people know.

But even if it were genuine, if an individual did something like that to a servant, that is in no way proof that a policy of Human Righta abuses is going on in Libya.

Just as in US, UK, Europe ..... some people do awful things, but this is not evidence of a policy of human rights abuses on the part of the government.

Remember the story of the austrian who kept his daughter locked up in a cellar for 20 years? Is that evidence of a policy of Human Rights abuse by the government?

If Michelle Obama had done something like that to one of her servants, would it be evidence of a government policy of HR abuses?

No offense intended here, but this is exactly how the MSM fake propaganda succeeds. They throw out unverified emotionally charged images and accusations and the public abdicates critical thinking and analysis of the facts. The other part of the meme is that those who question the validity of the picture or the premise are then labelled as heartless. That's how the propaganda works.

I don't know if this girl is a genuine victim of a horrendous act. If the burns are genuine, which I have no way of knowing, I don't know if it's true that it was Ghadaffi's son's wife who did it.

I don't know if this is just Hollywood make-up applied to someone willing to collude with the government lies, just like the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador did in the incubator babies lies.

Another important point in all this is that we KNOW for a fact that there IS a policy of Human Rights abuses of all kinds going on in US and all other Western countries.

What about MK Ultra - isn't that one of the most heinous of tortures and abuses imaginable?
What about US government's President-sanctioned secret assassinations of US and foreign citizens?
What about the network of rendition to hide the torture of prisoners?
What about holding prisoners for years in appalling conditions without due legal process.

Where is the public outrage about these things?

It's not happening for one reason only - because the Psychopath's MSM propaganda machine is NOT making a fuss about it.

The huge US and EU and AU public outcry about Ghadaffi exists simply because the MSM propaganda machine has whipped people's unthinking responses into a frenzy and has done it's usual job of demonizing him in order to support the evil and murderous grab for resources and power which has gone on in Libya.

Until people realise the extent of the lies and fake images and videos spewed out by the MainStreamMindcontrol propaganda machine they will continue to be played emotionally and psychologically and led again and again to support the most heinous and evil undertakings of the psychopathic cabal.

On ATS any claims made are usually subjected to intense scrutiny and substantial evidence of the veracity of the statements/pictures. WHY don't we do the same to our government's propaganda machine?

What about the human rights of those aboard Pan-Am Flight 103? Were they not abused

Originally posted by awareness10
what's most disturbing is that these zionists slash gov't suckups
don't value human life animal life wildlife or nature whatsoever.
If they did, No living creature would suffer, Ever.

I love the way you express this. Thank you.

edit on 31-8-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze
MODs please do not delete this thread as I believe this report hasn't been introduced to ATS until now.

So I found this damning piece of evidence (dated 4th January 2011) from the UN Human Rights website which clearly shows undeniable proof that there was absolutely NO EVIDENCE of serious Human Right's abuses as accused by NATO and UN presently.
Libya Human Rights Report by UN - 4th January 2011

UN Human Rights Reports Homepage

Whats more, SEVERAL countries even praised Libya's excellent Human rights Track Record, and now they are all on NATO's side to topple Gaddafi! Hypocrisy or what?! Ofcourse, the USA, UK, France and Israel remained very criticising, but that was expected.

30. Qatar praised the legal framework for the protection of human rights and freedoms, including, inter alia, its criminal code and criminal procedure law, which provided legal guarantees for the implementation of those rights.

37. Saudi Arabia commended the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya’s achievements in its
constitutional, legislative and institutional frameworks, which showed the importance that
the country attached to human rights

63. Australia welcomed the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya’s progress in human rights and its
willingness to facilitate visits by Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, which
demonstrated the country’s commitment to engaging with the international community on
human rights.

64. Canada welcomed improvements made by the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya in its respect
for human rights.

77. The United Arab Emirates admired the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya’s ratification of the
majority of the human rights treaties.

It sounds like Western countries were trying to force Libya into becoming a country it couldn't obviously become because of the fact the people in Libya follow Islamic values and not Western values. Whats more, the New Rebel NTC government intend too fully enforce Sharia Law in Libya...Go Figure...

Also, contradictory to popular belief and the Rebels finding extreme satisfaction burning it - Gaddafi's Green book is hardly extremist and against Human rights. Read it and judge for yourself. Gaddafi's Green Book

What the rebels are doing to Gaddafi's book can be easily compared to what the Catholic Church did to "free thinking" books hundreds of years ago.

This is I hope, enough evidence (rather than just YouTube videos) to prove that the war and intervention in Libya is based on LIES and exploitation of African Resources. If you want to stop what our Governments are doing now in Libya, I suggest WE PROTEST against this injustice before its too late.

In no way I'm saying Gaddafi was a saint. Every leader has opposition in his country but in this case NATO took advantage of the small opposition there was and turned it around against Gaddafi through lies and deceit.

And to all the sceptics who are still on the bandwagon that the Libyan War is justified to remove an "evil dictator" "oppressing" his people - DEBUNK THIS. Thats right, you can't.

edit on 30-8-2011 by CasiusIgnoranze because: .

ya the west is so stupid they don't know jack.


glad you are on ATS and no where near the whitehouse.

like i said, i hope.

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Thankyou for commenting. I'm just tired, like most of us, of these
# getting away with murder, literally. I wish superman was Real right
now, he'd knock them to kingdom come 'POW'.

Just look at the situation in the Gulf of Mexico.. That is an absolutely horrendous Human Rights abuse going on in America's own back yard.

Despite the government imposed media censorship going on (another GROSS breach of Human Rights), because of the internet ANY American citizen can find first hand testimony and evidence of the mass poisoning of civilians.

WHERE IS YOUR OUTRAGE, AMERICANS?

Why are you pointing the finger at Ghadaffi and NOT raising hell about what's being done to your own fellow Americans by your own government down in the GoM?

The Gulf of Mexico horror is more proof of a GOVERNMENT POLICY of horrendous HR abuse....where's the media furore? Why isn't the media broadcasting pics of the suffering down there?

The media is the most pernicious and evil tool imaginable of the psychopathic cabal, that's why.

Originally posted by awareness10
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Thankyou for commenting. I'm just tired, like most of us, of these
# getting away with murder, literally. I wish superman was Real right
now, he'd knock them to kingdom come 'POW'.

I'll second that.!

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No offense or disrespect to those that died, but dead people dont have rights to abuse !
Human rights abuses apply to humans suffering abuse , where they have been stripped of their basic requirements to life , liberty and justice.

PanAm was terrorist murder, not human rights abuse

How about all of the human rights violations our governments commit domestically that none of us actually know about or hear about in the news .

forget about libya , stop watching the lies , start questioning your own government about its abuses . I question the british government although nothing ever gets done !

I suggest a mass protest against our governments commiting human rights violations by depriving libyan nationals from water, electricity and security in what was a peacful nation before NATO invaded.

How can we organise a mass protest ? help me help you help them

This war was and is the sole responsibility of the WEST, hence all crimes committed during the war should be attributed to NATO and the countries that supported it. Gaddafi did not start the war, NATO did. From the looks of it Gaddafi was doing too good for NATO to wait any longer. Realpolitik.

The West is the most evil part of this world, problem is that they also own most of it, hence we hear only what they want us to hear. Propaganda against Gaddafi was immense and if you can't see it, then you are blind and propaganda got you good. It's funny when supporters of NATO only come up with arguments that were fed to them by the MSM. Nice independent thinking right there!

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Well said.

I would think TIME would try to cover it up but nope, they still openly acknowledge that they gave Hitler the "man of the year" title, the year before he started WW2.

Bunch of hypocrite scum.

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You sound like you will never understand and comprehend the reasons for NATO and US to invade and involve themselves in Libya's affairs. World Bankers. You need to grasp this and hold onto it. It's very real.

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I think its more abuse of nature. It doesn't directly affect Americans until it reaches land. Until then its the oceans problem. If you change Human Rights to Environmental Rights I second that motion. But I am here in Australia, and I am posting EVERYTHING controversial and factual from here onto Facebook so my personal friends can see and read this. This is about all I can do.

I am also calling for a Boycott of BP. Telling everyone at work and on Facebook too. Telling them to pass it on. I don't care how uncomfortable it makes me or others feel talking about it. This is a world for my nearly 4 children. I need to do everything I can. It's falling down around us at a terrible pace and everyone is too distracted.

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January is not August.