DEBUNK THIS - There WERE NO human rights abuses in Libya according to UN Human Rights report

The U.S. leaders and NATO soldiers are much like a living nightmare!! We have to wake up! The sooner the better.

Saudi Arabia is akin to Darth Vader complimenting someone. Google Banna and the NAZI's, there is no mistake where this fundamentalism came from. But the UN is bascially the same, as are most of the Bildenburgs. They're a many headed nazi/SS/Egyptian/ANNANUKI/ananconda, Snake monster. Many heads of the same beast, only putting on a show. And for one minute I don't buy the premise of this thread, and will add to it. ALL NATIONS HAVE MAJOR HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES!

They even have their hands in Linux. Beware the distros that use anaconda and like reptiles all over the place, they seem to be very hard to get permissions in too, and are all about control.

To be honest i dont think there needs to be evidence posted... i do not think ghaddafi and his crowd are saints.. infact for as long as i can remeber he was one of the demi-bad guys in the world, i do think he was doing what he thought was right for his people, i do know he has supported growth in Africa, he has treid to set up trade with China in Africa too, and he is essentially a socialist/communist which the west Hate....

However... I thought it was common knowledge (especailly on here) that allll the wars Nato/UN Corwd have been involved in since 2000 are about nothing more the oppresion/resources/world oppression/Control of key points in the world...

So im not shocked there has been a published paper (that people seem to be ignoring on this thread)
saying there wasnt really human rights violations (im talking about in the grand scheme of things, i mean there is human right violations in the US too) to be concerned about.

Like western society wars for profit and resources nothing else!

Take Africa, give me a map and a pin i will close my eyes and laws of averages states i will hit a country where there are human rights violations, where there are proper dictators/war lords in charge and the people need to be protected and helped... but there's no profit in helping... only taking!

Libya was a sovereign country and was doing pretty well for itself, and TPTB couldn't have that, so they are deindustrializing them and putting in a radicalized government. Either a) they were angry that Gaddafi made deals with them (the mega banks) and planned on getting out of those deals and not being their slave anymore, so they invaded or b) TPTB wanted an excuse to have a continued presence in the middle east and destabilize a regime that actually took relatively good care of its people, since the mega banks want everyones standard of living to be crap and want everyone to be completely dependent on them, there is more than enough of a reason for them to invade.

This is why Iran was on the table recently, and in the 70s CIA and MI6 overthrew a leader who was creating democracy all because he wouldn't let british petroleum in to his country to grab all his oil. So they replaced him with a very mean dictator. Sounds about right for the Good Ol' USA and Britain eh? Look up Iran Coup in google (wiki) if you don't believe me about that little stunt. Our governments intelligence agencies and their affiliates all the way up the food chain have a HORRIBLE track record.

Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze
reply to post by wcitizen

 

Yes, I have seen those videos.

I just wanted to bring this UN report to attention so that ATS users and other people are aware of it.

edit on 30-8-2011 by CasiusIgnoranze because: .

Yet you clearly don't understand the processes within the UN that creates these reports. These reports are not an in depth analysis describing humanitarian abuses. At most they can be used to humiliate a country into complying with recommendations but thats about it. Every country has these types of reports issued on them.The recommendations clearly state concerns from several countries regarding treatment of women, human trafficing, political detainees, methods of torture, etc. They fit into the humanitarian abuses.

What is even more telling from this document is the fact than mseveral states were distancing themselves from Lybia that would not be expected and shows the course Arab leage nations were begining to take on the Gaddaffi regime. The nail in the coffin was the blatantly open attacks on civillians. Several other factors allowed for the resulting action from NATO and the UN; however, the open attacks gave globally visual confirmation backing any action based on humanitarian efforts.

To try and support Quaddaffi's regime as being concerned about human rights is frankly quite ignorant considering even the Arab League and the African nations removed all support from him because he was bringing too much heat on that issue in the region.

reply to post by cypruswolf


I guess you support Al Qaida then.

This post is heinous. A million to the OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm tempted to make a point by point rebuttle; but I've decided to not dignify the OP with such a coherent and well thought out post since OP never bothered...

Every nation and government...EVERY ONE has the blood of innocents on their hands, my USA included...

You are a liar and/or a dummy...I wont be more respectful than that, but; I want to say soooooooo much more yett I don't want my post to just get tossed aside...

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remember the ones you support are worse .All al qaida

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
reply to post by cypruswolf

 

I guess you support Al Qaida then.

Lol this is not even worth a response and proves my point. Ignorance is bliss.

Those documents are not designed as a comprehensive analysis of human rights conditions within a country. They are merely a political tool used within the sphere of a golabal political institutions without much primary power and only serves 2 true purposes.

1: Attempt to affect international policy through humiliation
2: Gives a general idea to the relationships between countries alligned within the UN

Also, agreeing with the presidents and NATO's decision to become involved does not mean supporting Al Quaida. Deny ignorance.

reply to post by cypruswolf


Its giving me an idea.NATO's war strategy seems to be very similiar Hitler's war strategy.I wonder when USA/NATO will initiate Operation Barbarossa against Russia.

check who these rebels are.All from Al Qaida or the Kosovo Liberation Army(KLA) .Look at Kosovo ,which is effectively controlled by KLA Drug Mafia and its links with the CIA .

You will understand.You remind me of the Nazi sheeple who supported intervention and Genocide.

debunked:

www.cnn.com...

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


ah ,sounds like the sheeple are swallowing the propaganda of Hitler's Der Sturmer. I guess Goebbels must be laughing in his grave.

reply to post by ludwigvonmises003


That's a terrible analogy unless you are agreeing with me.

However I'm not a fool on the situation. If you want to say the lie and exaggerate Ghaddafi you would be right, he has done a lot for Libya, but one would be a fool to believe there aren't human rights abuses there.

One of the annoying things about conspiracy site posters is that instead of trying to understand the whole story they just use their conspiracy theory rule of thumb "believe the opposite" which gets them forever no where.

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
one thing about the west that is proven with these false flag wars //they are lying,murderous thugs who do war by deception.

I agree, War is Big Money, Fabricated Wars are even Bigger Money because they
can be created even quicker. I don't trust the Gov'ts in Power right now as far
as i can see them, never mind tossing them, but i do think somethings gonna
give soon, and as i've said before they will get what they've given ten fold.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


yes , I would agree that human right abuses have happened under Ghadafi in 80's and 90's ,but not now.West is on an ultra militaristic drive to world war 3.Western media is under the heels of fascist masters,who rule in the shadows and by deception.

So am I suppose to believe the fascists like how the german and italian sheeple did and they believed that they are killing jews for the good of jews and that the jews are grateful to them that they are being sent to concentration camps? Yes, this was the kind of propaganda printed in Nazi media and Today's Western media is very similiar in its propaganda.

Sorry,I don't believe any lie coming from the fascist's mouth.

Originally posted by Kryties

Believe me, I don't believe everything I hear via MSM either, but in some cases one must put aside the tin-hat and look at reality as it is being told and one can see with their own eyes.

I know they are putting up these news about the servant at Ghaddaffi's house. And I know it looks bad, but you have to stay neutral here. What do you know about this? A woman had boiling water poured over her head ... ok, well I know there are many rich ladies that treat their servants badly. This wouldn't be the first, you and I know this very well. But do you think, that just possibly there is an "accident" in there, that this lady and the MSM is using to their advantage?

And besides, it was his sons wife. How does that justify killing Gaddafi's children?

At some point you have to try and understand where this is going. Yes, I do believe the movies above, where the goal originally was to take Iran in the end. And today, Syria is going on a killing spree ... and I also know, what they are doing. They are trying to hunt down, and kill those CIA spies that have been put there for many years, to gradually take down the country. Of course, I don't think they'll succeed ... it's too late, to do that know. But you are talking about something, that has been in the books and plans, for two decades.

But we are fighting a world war here. This isn't just Lybia, or Iraq. We are talking about that in 2001, on septhember 11th. Al Qaida blew up two towers in New York and other places. After the death of Usama Bin Laden, this Al Qaida is suddenly the ally of NATO. Aren't you mad Aren't you pissed off, don't you want to scream and shout in anger? Di you hear what I said? AL QAIDA IS NATO'S ALLY Are you going to sit there and do nothing? This hasn't come to your synapsis yet ... The target was the World Trade Center, and what does the World Trade center stand for, if not the World Economy. The World Economy is now in shacles ... everyone is going bust. And AL QAIDA is NATO's Ally?

This is world war III. You have fukushima, and what does fukushima tell you? you have radiation that exceeds 186 times that of Nagasaki. What does that mean? it means we are all breathing contaminated air ... and we're all alive. Where does that take us? It takes us down the path, that fighting nuclear war is pretty safe as long as we localize it. The nuclear threat scenario is overrated, and we all know it ... now we have proof, which even if it doesn't make the MSM, is well known in closed circles. The fear is no longer there.

So, what are we going to do? Are we going to see some CIA guys bumped off? Are we going to see further decline in World Economy? Are we going to see further wars in the middle east? Are we going to see a drop of a nuclear weapon or two?

Yes, to all of the above ... because people just don't get it, until it's too late.

If anywhere near the number of people supported daffy as the OP claims the rebels would still be fighting on the outskirts of tripoli face it mate people couldn't be bothered to fight for a terrorist especially those who were being paid to do so xD inb4 "sub saharan africans being cleansed" also inb4 "black libyans being discriminated against" TT boo hoo QQ

Originally posted by Kryties
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze

 

I'll admit there is the possibility of what you suggest - but what IF her story was correct? What IF she was actually tortured by Gaddafi's sons' wife? Imagine being her, and other people who have never even been to Libya start parroting on about how she is lying and how the MSM is using her? How would you feel in her position?

I wasn't even gonna bother replying to your ill informed post, but since you dragged on her story, let's see how much credibility the story has.

First, she is a captive, she was captured by NATO militiamen, she was in their hand, so what are the odds of this brutality being committed by them? After all, wasn't it the same people who burned innocent people alive in Benghazi as reported by Human Right Organizations?

So she became a captive, then she comes out with those injuries and claim Qaddafi's family did it to her? How credible is that? Have you seen the video of a black worker who was taken by NATO militia, he was suppose to confess to Western cameras that he is a Mercenary with guns pointed on his head. Instead of confessing, even though his life was in danger, he said he is just a worker, his wife was raped by NATO militia and they dragged me here... NATO militia quickly grabs him and takes him to the cells, no one knows what happened to him after, and no one really cares.

Imagine being a captive of these NATO terrorists, you would do anything to stay a live and avoid the brutal torture.

Let's look at motive: They were looking for Qaddafi, to quickly murder him and hope that people would stop resisting. So do you think it is more plausible that they tortured her to find out where Qaddafi is, or his family?

reply to post by Kryties


The point is , this is bigger than her alone , you and me , this is about millions of peoples futures being decided , not by their own government which in this case was fine to begin with , but by foreign nations intervention in the name of humanitarian aid.
This piece of news about this one vicitim is surely heart wrenching , however what of the thousands our governments have just killed and left homeless without the basic requirements which they had before the invasion, which the colonel was providing for them !

So I found this piece of evidence from an organization that says it lied and let this be known on the internet via its own accord....

to believe or not to believe? that is the final question

SEVERAL countries is in fact 5

1 the size of a small town, and in the general area but across a continent
2 Saudi Arabia... yea human rights... good example of a leading country
3 Austrailia oh a big country but only commending on its efforts to improve not its example of being a good guy
the other 2 aren't worth mentioning