Masonic Symbols in Israeli Supreme Court Building paid for by the Rothchilds

Originally posted by Jamuhn
LOL, it was sarcasm, didn't you see the emoticon.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, lighten up.

As someone who's done debate, I love this particular tactic -- it's so useful! All you need to do is make a series of statements, then when somebody refutes them, you just say "hey, lighten up -- I didn't mean anything seriously!"

What can they do? If they say "no, I won't lighten up -- you meant that seriously," then they've portrayed themselves as real stuffed shirts, and argumentative. If they say "OK, OK, sure, I'll take it easy, no big deal," then their refutation gets lost, and you get to keep not only your (disproven) points, but also the ability to ambush someone with more BS later.

Amazing!

You keep saying lighten up as if you think I am taking anything in this thread seriously...

Originally posted by AlexKennedy

Originally posted by Jamuhn
LOL, it was sarcasm, didn't you see the emoticon.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, lighten up.

As someone who's done debate, I love this particular tactic -- it's so useful! All you need to do is make a series of statements, then when somebody refutes them, you just say "hey, lighten up -- I didn't mean anything seriously!"

What can they do? If they say "no, I won't lighten up -- you meant that seriously," then they've portrayed themselves as real stuffed shirts, and argumentative. If they say "OK, OK, sure, I'll take it easy, no big deal," then their refutation gets lost, and you get to keep not only your (disproven) points, but also the ability to ambush someone with more BS later.

Amazing!

OH, AND WHAT BS IS IT THAT I HAVE PRESENTED?

Obviously, you cannot note the little icon thing I had there.

WHAT POINTS HAVE YOU DISPROVEN. OBVIOUSLY ALL YOU HAVE IS YOUR WORD AND NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE. I'LL TAKE THE WORD OF A CRACK WHORE BEFORE I TAKE YOUR WORD ANYDAY.

SUCH IGNORANCE...AND TROLLING!

Masonic Light is yet the only hope for Masonry, and when those talk bad about Masonry it is of yours that they speak.

I prefer to attack your credibility in private, check your U2U.

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Originally posted by Jamuhn
OH, AND WHAT BS IS IT THAT I HAVE PRESENTED?

Obviously, you cannot note the little icon thing I had there.

WHAT POINTS HAVE YOU DISPROVEN. OBVIOUSLY ALL YOU HAVE IS YOUR WORD AND NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE. I'LL TAKE THE WORD OF A CRACK WHORE BEFORE I TAKE YOUR WORD ANYDAY.

SUCH IGNORANCE...AND TROLLING!

Masonic Light is yet the only hope for Masonry, and when those talk bad about Masonry it is of yours that they speak.

I prefer to attack your credibility in private, check your U2U.

[edit on 22-8-2004 by Jamuhn]

Nothing to disprove, Jahmun, since you haven't provided any evidence for your accusations. Why do you prefer to attack my credibility in private? You don't want anybody to see this?

You are a troll. The only time I see you post is in threads with Masons in the title. And while sometimes this may be a virtue, in your case it is not. When you speak of masonry, you speak for yourself and not your brothers. Your version of the accounts flips and flops with the wind never sticking with the history and vision by your brothers, specifically Masonic Light.

As well, I have perceived you as not to have the capacity to keep multiple ideas in your head at once. Perhaps you have alzeheimers and in such a case, it is not your fault. But you do have faults, and I see your arrogance shining through at every junction. You now decide to reduce your posts to simple exclamations of "you're wrong" and picking out spelling errors. I ask that you start providing points of substance within the context of the article and keeping in mind points made by all members.

I see that it is a "skill" you have mastered to ignore relevant points and only linger on those that you may correct. You have no capacity for showing your faults nor do you have a capacity to be conscious of faults within your arguments.

Consider this constructive criticism in that I ask you to provide more substance and less nit-picking. You could learn a thing or two from your brother Masonic Light.

By the way, Trolling usually involves expressing opinions with the sole purpose of angering someone. Whatever you may think of me (and please, hate me... that's your right), I don't express my opinions to anger people, I do it to counter what I see as lies or at very least misunderstandings being propogated.

(I do like this tactic of trying to drive a wedge between Masonic Light and the rest of the Masons here... I consider Masonic Light a friend, and sincerely hope he'll come up and visit our Masonic Spring Workshop someday... if he's a more accomplished poster than I, so be it.)

Jahmun,

As I have noted before, no facts have been presented on this thread, other than the refutations I have offered respecting "Masonic" symbols in the Supreme Court building, and the "argument" that the Great Seal on the dollar bill is masonic. The rest of the points about the building have been speculation and half truths, which I have pointed out, only to have you accuse me of condesention.

So, where are these "facts" you write of? So far, it has been nasty innuendos and nothing of substance.

By the way, get your anger under control. You might want to look at the compass to help you circumscribe your desires and keep your passions within due bounds toward all mankind... oh, you can't do that.... you think masonry is eeeeeviiillll.

Hmmm, I too like Masonic Light's posts, as I do Alex's as well. Perhaps you just don't like our posts in general because we provide facts that upset your preconceived notions?

Alex, I liked how you didn't include the freemasons preference of the number 3 in your post concerning the artical of Jahmuns that you broke down.

Do you know the story behind freemasons perference for 3? guess who else shares the same preferences.....! I guess freemasonary just adopted the use of 3 like they did everything else. Adopting symbols and numbers used by other societies might make people think your linked you know??

No comment on my german grand orient picture? the all seeing eye as used in the bill is clearly on it.

Petaluma Masonic Lodge

Its a very nice image... thank you for sharing it with us.

The All Seeing Eye - The eye of Ra. The Sun is also believed by the Egyptians to be the eye of Ra or his body.

Here is where it gets interesting:
quote:
Atum was himself created by Ptah in some mythologies

en.wikipedia.org...

And who is Ptah:
quote:
Unlike Seker, another crafts god, Ptah was associated with stone-based crafts.

Often he wore a skullcap.

en.wikipedia.org...

My theory is that the Rothschilds take the idea of magick and spirituality very seriously and are trying to induce the creation power into their Supreme Court so as to portray a Supreme Judgement on all that passes through the building. Also, with the masonic element, I think there are some, but I don't think masonry is a reason behind it. I think Freemasonry may have been established on the same concept, but that is not to say that these symbols are Masonic. Rather, Freemasonry is symbolic of them.

Ur-Nammu Law is a CODE OF 57 LAWS INCLUDING CRIMINAL LAW, FAMILY LAW, INHERITANCE
LAW, LABOUR LAW INCLUDING SLAVE RIGHTS, AND AGRICULTURAL AND COMMERCIAL TARIFFS.
www.nb.no...

Here is an extensive listing of these laws:
www.gatewaystobabylon.com...

*Perhaps the conspiracy is that we are all slaves to the law profession, just as we are of God itself and by association their representatives. Like Abraham and his servants, which are all ultimately servants to God.

Since you wish to delve into Masonry and not focus on the other aspects of the symbolism, here is what I said conerning Masonry in my previous post.

Aside from that:
As well, remember that the All Seeing Eye is within a pyramid in this context and not a triangle. This is obviously more in the context of Egypt rathe than some holy trinity.

Though I still wonder how you would be able to show the all seeing eye head on within in pyramid. It seems that the eye would be cut of or out of proportion with itself if this was attempted.

Originally posted by 7th_Chakra
Alex, I liked how you didn't include the freemasons preference of the number 3 in your post concerning the artical of Jahmuns that you broke down.

That's because, as far as we know, we don't have a "preference" for the number three. Do you have any proof of this assertion? There are some references to the number three in our ritual, but for well-known reasons: the three elements which make up the virtuous man (in the sense of earthly, not celestial virtues) are wisdom, strength, and beauty (beauty in this case being a kind of moral integrity and balance). Also, the number three signifies the three semi-Paltonic aspects of man: the body, the mind, and the soul.

Do you know the story behind freemasons perference for 3? guess who else shares the same preferences.....!

Who? To use your own phrase, I like the way you use innuedno rather than facts to try to set forth your argument. Oh, wait -- "like" isn't the right word... what is the right word? Oh, yes, I'm bored by it.

I guess freemasonary just adopted the use of 3 like they did everything else.

Um... yes. The number 3 existed well before Freemasonry did. We didn't invent it.

Adopting symbols and numbers used by other societies might make people think your linked you know??

Really? The cross was used as a symbol by the cult of Sol invictus... does that mean that Christians are actually members of that cult?

The Swastika was used by Buddhists for thousands of years before the Nazis used it... does that mean that the Nazis were in fact Buddhists?

And we're not even talking about a symbol here... we're talking about a NUMBER. There are a limited number of small numbers -- by definition! No matter what number you choose between 1 and 10, someone else or some other society has used it previously. Plus, you still have not proven that the number three has any special significance to Freemasons, or that it has any sinister significance. Sheesh. These arguments are so gossamer that I'm surprised they just don't float away in the wind.

No comment on my german grand orient picture? the all seeing eye as used in the bill is clearly on it.

Yep. The all-seeing eye that Jahmun's own article from Wikipedia shows is specifically Christian in its attribution:

The later addition of an enclosing triangle is usually seen as a more explicit trinitarian reference to the God of Christianity.

Yes, believe it or not, the German Grand Lodge is indicating its supplication to God, just like the American Dollar Bill (which also says "in God we trust." WHAT A SHOCK!!!

Yep. The all-seeing eye that Jahmun's own article from Wikipedia shows is specifically Christian in its attribution:

No, the article in wikipedia gives many reasons behind the portrayal of the all seeing eye.

And in the context of the Israeli Supreme Court building it is shown in a pyramid, NOT a triangle.

Egyptian, not Christian

Originally posted by Jamuhn
And in the context of the Israeli Supreme Court building it is shown in a pyramid, NOT a triangle.

Egyptian, not Christian

No, in the context of the Israeli building, you show a pyramid with a dot somewhare near the top, not an eye.

Secondly, there's nothing in the article or anywhere in your "evidence" showing that an eye in a pyramid is Egyptian. In fact, the Wikipedia article you like so much indicates that the Eye of Horus was an independant eye, not placed in any setting.

So what makes an "eye in a pyramid" an Egyptian symbol? And even if it was originally an Egyptian symbol, so what? Are you trying to imply that the Israelis actually worship Horus? What, exactly is your thesis, and where, exactly, is your proof?

Originally posted by AlexKennedy

Originally posted by Jamuhn
And in the context of the Israeli Supreme Court building it is shown in a pyramid, NOT a triangle.

Egyptian, not Christian

No, in the context of the Israeli building, you show a pyramid with a dot somewhare near the top, not an eye.

Secondly, there's nothing in the article or anywhere in your "evidence" showing that an eye in a pyramid is Egyptian. In fact, the Wikipedia article you like so much indicates that the Eye of Horus was an independant eye, not placed in any setting.

So what makes an "eye in a pyramid" an Egyptian symbol? And even if it was originally an Egyptian symbol, so what? Are you trying to imply that the Israelis actually worship Horus? What, exactly is your thesis, and where, exactly, is your proof?

Well, the author of the article is postulating it to be an eye. I assume that he has been there since he wrote the article. Have you been there?

I think its safe to assume that an all seeing eye in a pyramid is of egyptian symbolism. And from your questions I think you know its very probable that it is egyptian.

Here is my thesis, for the third time in this thread:

My theory is that the Rothschilds take the idea of magick and spirituality very seriously and are trying to induce the creation power into their Supreme Court so as to portray a Supreme Judgement on all that passes through the building. Also, with the masonic element, I think there are some, but I don't think masonry is a reason behind it. I think Freemasonry may have been established on the same concept, but that is not to say that these symbols are Masonic. Rather, Freemasonry is symbolic of them.

Ur-Nammu Law is a CODE OF 57 LAWS INCLUDING CRIMINAL LAW, FAMILY LAW, INHERITANCE
LAW, LABOUR LAW INCLUDING SLAVE RIGHTS, AND AGRICULTURAL AND COMMERCIAL TARIFFS.
www.nb.no...

Here is an extensive listing of these laws:
www.gatewaystobabylon.com...

*Perhaps the conspiracy is that we are all slaves to the law profession, just as we are of God itself and by association their representatives. Like Abraham and his servants, which are all ultimately servants to God.

Like I said earlier, there are many varying religions presented in this thread. I'm not going to go into again, but if you scroll back through the posts, you will see what I said about this.

I don't understand why you persist in such a fashion. You SHOULD know that your statement of what my thesis is is clearly wrong if you actually bothered to read all my posts in this thread. Once again, where is the substance? Or are we just going to play word games all day? How many times must I repeat what I've been saying?

Originally posted by Jamuhn
Well, the author of the article is postulating it to be an eye. I assume that he has been there since he wrote the article. Have you been there?

Ah, the assumption that the author must know what he's talking about. Sorry, that's not good enough to convince me. If the author wants me to believe that dot is actually an eye, he'd better either i) show me a picture of the eye, or ii) show me a number of third-party experts or witnesses with no idealogical bias who have well-agreeing statements that it is in fact an eye.

i) is better than ii).

I think its safe to assume that an all seeing eye in a pyramid is of egyptian symbolism. And from your questions I think you know its very probable that it is egyptian.

... and here's where it all falls down. You may feel it's "safe to assume" that, but I don't. Saying something is "safe to assume" is not, not, not proof! That's like my saying "it's safe to assume that Jahmun is, in fact, a child murderer." Saying it doesn't make it so!

And no, I don't "know" that it's very probable that it is Egyptian. I've never seen any kind of indication that ancient Egyptians ever used the symbol of an all-seeing eye mounted on a pyramid. Again, one of the types of proof above, i) or ii), would be helpful.

My theory is that the Rothschilds take the idea of magick and spirituality very seriously and are trying to induce the creation power into their Supreme Court so as to portray a Supreme Judgement on all that passes through the building. Also, with the masonic element, I think there are some, but I don't think masonry is a reason behind it. I think Freemasonry may have been established on the same concept, but that is not to say that these symbols are Masonic. Rather, Freemasonry is symbolic of them.

OK, great. Now let's see some evidence. And I don't mean repeating things that you feel it's "safe to assume." I mean actual evidence.

Once again, where is the substance?

Once again, when you start presenting actual evidence, and not just things that are "safe to assume," then I'll start refuting them (if possible, and if I feel it's justified) with actual meaty arguments. Until you do, the only possible response is "no, it isn't so."

Or are we just going to play word games all day? How many times must I repeat what I've been saying?

Until you present evidence rather than just supposition.

Ok, well fair enough that there needs to be a picture. And I am not saying that the pyramid with the eye was used by Egyptians but that it is based on Egyptian symbols. THAT is very probably, pyramids, and possibly an all seeing eye, hmm, both seem linked to Egypt, though maybe not at the same time.

I'll see what I can dig up in this respect.

If you want to dispute how I arrived at my theory I recommend that you debate point-for-point my original post with all the information I posted.

Have you seen it yet? If so, what do you think? I believe it's on page 3.

Alex,

Hindu Swastika was facing a different direction to the Nazi one. Hindu/vedic ones aparrantly means life and good-luck and to some the Sun. As the hindu has be before the Nazi so hindus can't be nazi now can they? however the nazi came later and reversed the symbol, symbolically reversing the meaning maybe? like an inverted cross!

About the number 3. look youself if you want to know, yes it sounds like a palm off but try looking for yourself instead of demanding it. If you can't find anything I can help you, after all its your practise. While your at it buy a book called ' How we were made' by William neil. Numbers are important to the universe, or omniverse depending on your view. I urge all to check the book out, its VERY interesting. The original number of man is actually 6 BTW.

As to who else uses the number 3 more then any other number?? you know who!!

A dot...representing the all seeing eye of horus. Its a lot more significant than a random dot. Do you have a reason why it would be a dot?

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Originally posted by Jamuhn
There are a probably a few reasons why it was built the way it was, 1) To commemorate the Israeli bloodline. Though that merely implies the symbols are there because Israelis were in Egypt at one point and still doesn't talk about the other occult symbolism. While that may be one reason, the meaning of the symbols does play significance.

Within the Supreme Court there are Egyptian symbols, Jewish symbols, Islamic symbols, Christian symbols, and Hindu symbols. What is the connection among these religions?

Really? Let's see some pictures of all those symbols.

They all started in the Sumerian empire. They all have similar concepts among them as well.

Really? Do you have some evidence that these symbols (which you haven't shown us) has roots in the Sumerian "empire?" (The only Sumerian empire was the empire over Mesopotamia -- do you mean the Babylonian empire?)

The Egyptian God Ra seems to play an important part of all this, he is the Sun God, or God of Light.

OK, I'll bite... why do you say this? What evidence do you have that the Egyptian god Ra has anything to do with any of this?

The Obelisk - Egyptians believe the spirit of Ra dwells inside these.

Really? Where do you get that information from? And secondly, did the Ancient Egyptians believe that the spirit of Ra resided in all Obelisks, or just certain ones, marked in a special way? And third, did the people who actually put up this obelisk believe that the spirit of Ra resided within? After all, an obelisk is a simple geometric form, and it's quite possible that several people could think of it (it's a highly visible way to mark a certain point) without having any communication with each other, nor intending it to represent the same thing.

As well, it marks the male reproductive member.

No, it looks like the male reproductive member. The question you need to show the answer to is, "did the people who erected this obelisk actually intend it to represent the male reproductive member?" Simply asserting that they did is not proof.

The All Seeing Eye - The eye of Ra.

This is a misattribution, with several jumps. The All-Seeing Eye is a non-partisan symbol, used by the ancient Egyptians to represent the Eye of Horus, used by Christians to represent the Trinity, used by the Homeland Security department to represent the ability to "watch over" a country, good or bad, and used by Freemasons to represent the omniscience of God. The symbol is used by different people to represent different things.

The Sun is also believed by the Egyptians to be the eye of Ra or his body.

Yes. Or, actually, the ancient Egyptians, not the modern ones (most modern Egyptians are Muslims).

Here is where it gets interesting:

Atum was himself created by Ptah in some mythologies

en.wikipedia.org...

And who is Ptah:

Unlike Seker, another crafts god, Ptah was associated with stone-based crafts.

Often he wore a skullcap.

en.wikipedia.org...

So some versions of ancient Egyptian mythology have Ra arising from Ptah (in most versions, Ra is cthonic)... so what? Surely that reference to Ptah being a stoneworker is not meant to be a snide innuendo about Freemasonry? No, you'd provide more evidence if it was.

But, I don't think the symbols have a uniquely Egyptian/Jewish nature.

You're not clear about what symbols you mean here.

Upside-down cross - EDIT: Look at page 4. Seems it has to do with the founding of christianity in Rome.

Yep. When St. Peter was to be crucified, he asked that he not be crucified like Jesus, because he did not wish to be compared to his master. So, he was crucified upside-down. Hence, the Cross of St. Peter is an "upside-down" cross. Similarly, St. Andrew was "crucified" (not really, he was tied up, but it makes no odds) on an X-shaped cross. So his cross is an "x."

The lay lines - In this context, I would say to relate to religious significance. Also, they are used to signify astronomy, or pyschic powers.

The Ley-lines argument was fallacious. First of all, we have to believe in their existence for the argument to make sense. Leaving that aside, the line drawn on the map above is clearly NOT at 90 degrees to the supposed "ley line." Not only that, but there's no real evidence given that the street referenced is a "ley line," other than the fact that some crazies live there. The problem is that you're going to find crazies on the major streets of many cities... does that make them all "ley lines?"

Temple Mount (ley line) - one of the most respected places for the worship of God. Perhaps the ley lines are connected in such a way to gather God's judgement within the Supreme Court.

This is based only upon supposition. The existence of "ley lines" is a supposition. Secondly, it's supposition to state that somehow these ley lines can "gather" God's judgement.

Hindu - translates to perennial faith, or faith lasting a long time.

The dictum is "God is one, people call him by many names". Hence many (innumerable) deities exist. When monotheistic religions came into India, they were welcomed and their deities absorbed into hinduism. Today also many Hindus worship at Mohammedan and Christian shrines and keep images of Christ as a part of the Hindu altar where images of many Hindu deities are kept.

So, Hindu could be the last key dictating through all these different religions, and all the different Gods worshiped, there exists one God. And that the Supreme Court is intended to gather the judgement of God

I still haven't seen any Hindu symbols in the courthouse... do you have pictures, perhaps?

But before I make my final conclusion, I will look at the Sumerian belief system since it is that which connects all these religions.

In Sumerian mythology, An was the god whose name was synonymous with the sun's zenith, or heaven. He was the oldest god in the Sumerian pantheon, and part of a triad including Enlil, god of the earth and Enki, god of the watery deep

en.wikipedia.org...

The universe first appeared when Nammu, a presumably formless abyss, curled in upon herself, and in an act of self-procreation gave birth to An, god of heaven and Ki, goddess of Earth (commonly referred to as Ninhursag).

en.wikipedia.org...

I don't understand what the relevance of this information is.

It's interesting to note that even in the Bible, the creation story starts out with something existing, yet, there is no reason for how or why there existed the "water" that the Old testament talks about.

Nope. The Old Testament specifically states that God created things first. There have been some religious doctrines which held that God created the universe out of pre-existing matter, but Judaism is not one of them. Here is the relevant passage from Genesis 1

[1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
[2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
[3] And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
[4] And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
[5] And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
[6] And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

As you can see, the first thing God does is to create the Heavens and Earth. Earth was without form, and void, and (as the later verses show) covered in water. Note that water is formless, so this passage may indicate that the "formless" Earth is in fact a ball of water... but I don't know. I'm not a Talmudic scholar.

Nammu is said by the Sumerians to have created this formless abyss of water. Her center of worship was mainly in Ur.

There's no doubt that Genesis is related to the creation myths of other societies. I don't get your point.

2060 B.C., king of the ancient city of Ur, sometimes called Zur-Nammu or Ur-Engur. He founded a new Sumerian dynasty, the third dynasty of Ur, that lasted a century. Ur-Nammu was the promulgator of the oldest code of law yet known, older by about three centuries than the code of Hammurabi. It consists of a prologue and seven laws; the prologue describes Ur-Nammu as a divinely appointed king who established justice throughout the land. This code is of great importance to the study of biblical law, which it predates by about five centuries. The two most famous monuments of Ur-Nammu�s reign are the great ziggurat (temple) at Ur and his stele, of which fragments remain.

en.wikipedia.org...

Again, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make... yes, Hammurabi made what were probably the first laws... but to say this proves a courthouse is related to Sumerian magic is specious -- if that's the case, every courthouse is controlled by Sumerian magic.

In myth and religion, Nammu is the Mother of Enki, the god of the Sweet Waters, Magick, Crafts and Wisdom, and Ereshkigal, the Goddess of the Underworld. More importantly, Nammu is the goddess who has the idea of creating humankind as a help for the gods, and it is she who goes to wake up Enki, asleep in the Apsu, that he may set out the process going. Also, Ur-Nammu, the founder of the Third Dynasty of Ur, is named after Her.

www.gatewaystobabylon.com...

Well, when you go back to this, it starts to get pretty confusing what the underlying significance could mean. I think the multitude of religions and the Hindu philosophy is a clue that behind all these religions lies one Creator God/ess.

Obviously, the Rothschilds are taking this very seriously, so what could their meaning be behind all this significance?

How have you shown that the Rothschilds are taking this seriously?

My theory is that the Rothschilds take the idea of magick and spirituality very seriously and are trying to induce the creation power into their Supreme Court so as to portray a Supreme Judgement on all that passes through the building. Also, with the masonic element, I think there are some, but I don't think masonry is a reason behind it. I think Freemasonry may have been established on the same concept, but that is not to say that these symbols are Masonic. Rather, Freemasonry is symbolic of them.

OK, you restated your thesis, but I still don't see any proof.

Ur-Nammu Law is a CODE OF 57 LAWS INCLUDING CRIMINAL LAW, FAMILY LAW, INHERITANCE
LAW, LABOUR LAW INCLUDING SLAVE RIGHTS, AND AGRICULTURAL AND COMMERCIAL TARIFFS.
www.nb.no...

Here is an extensive listing of these laws:
www.gatewaystobabylon.com...

*Perhaps the conspiracy is that we are all slaves to the law profession, just as we are of God itself and by association their representatives. Like Abraham and his servants, which are all ultimately servants to God.

[edit on 22-8-2004 by Jamuhn]

What's the relevance of all this?

[edit on 23-8-2004 by AlexKennedy]

Originally posted by 7th_Chakra
About the number 3. look youself if you want to know,

This isn't argument or evidence. If you want me to change my mind, present evidence.

yes it sounds like a palm off but try looking for yourself instead of demanding it.

It sounds like a palm off because it is. YOU'RE the one who's trying to prove something, so YOU show me the evidence.

As to who else uses the number 3 more then any other number?? you know who!!

No, I really do not. Who?

Originally posted by Jamuhn


A dot...representing the all seeing eye of horus. Its a lot more significant than a random dot. Do you have a reason why it would be a dot?

[edit on 23-8-2004 by Jamuhn]

Yes. It could be a bird, or grit on the lens. All you did is take the original image and blow it up. In fact, at this magnification, the dot looks blurry and off-centre, as if it is in fact a bird in flight.

Originally posted by Jamuhn
Ok, well fair enough that there needs to be a picture. And I am not saying that the pyramid with the eye was used by Egyptians but that it is based on Egyptian symbols. THAT is very probably, pyramids, and possibly an all seeing eye, hmm, both seem linked to Egypt, though maybe not at the same time.

You seem obsessed with an Egypt connection but why does it have to be Egyptian? The All Seeing Eye didn't even necessarily originate in Egypt. Neither did pyramids.