Several dead in series of terrorist attacks in southern Israel

reply to post by Gannicus

In response to the post above

Oh that must be me then.

the hate comes in the form of the ridiculous standards you hold Israel to

What standards are they exactly?

You spew Hamas talking points

Really? Interesting.

and have nothing to say when Lebanon or Egypt bombs Palestinian camps

WTF?

Is there a road nearby you can go and play on soldier boy?

reply to post by Vitchilo


The nazi policy stressed the superiority of the nordic race.
The racial ideal of the nordic theory was...tall,blond and light
eyed! The nazi's idea of a master race!

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by mamabeth


Excuse me but I think you're getting a bit hung up on this Aryan business and it's not exactly on topic.

You were going to tell me which side was right and which was wrong. I think it's only fair you share this insight so we can all put this Israel-Palestinian conflict to rest once and for all.

These threads always go off topic

We have members arguing about who killed who and who killed more during WW2. We have members calling us retards. ATS sure feels like the Twilight Zone this morning

Has anyone heard anything of anyone claiming responsibility for the attack yet?

Has there been any mention of a response by Israel yet? I haven't heard anything but I'm surprised Israel hasn't busted out the war planes by now. I'm sure they have already decided who they are going to blame for this regardless.

I guess it's okay to call other members retarded depending which side you stand on in Middle East current events. I get it now, no biggie.

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by wcitizen

 

Exactly what I thought. This is way too convenient for Israel. Hamas and Fatah have absolutely nothing to gain from these attacks. Especially with the upcoming declaration of statehood in September.

I bet this attack was performed by an Egyptian group that has been infiltrated by Mossad. Yeah I said it! The people of Palestine have suffered for so long and would be foolish to commit such an act at this exact time.

It's kind of ironic that only Israel benefits from the attacks on Israel.

Normally militants will have claimed responsibility by now. I bet some new fake group we never heard of before claims responsibility. I bet they threaten more attacks too. I also see this spreading further than Israel but also into Syria, Lebanon, maybe even Iran. If you look at the region as a whole, this is the perfect ignition for more war and destruction.

Exactly. No way have the Palestinians done this.

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


No apparently not. Just Israel getting in early and saying it was Hamas via Egypt.

Reuters

I agree that is should be OK to call each other retarded. Just as long as no-one says it about me cos then I'll get

reply to post by casinoed


Fair enough,you won't like the answer and won't agree with it.
The answer is of course Israel.

reply to post by sonofliberty1776
if that would happen yeay
but u know it wont,they will not double or triple but at least tenfold the deaths
accurate enoughr for u
my boss was from palestine he went there for vacation only to get his entire country bombarded my insane maniacs
guess who im referring to
ps im a white guy living in holland

reply to post by casinoed


From your source.

JERUSALEM, Aug 18 (Reuters) - The gunmen who killed at least six people in a series of attacks in southern Israel on Thursday came from the Gaza Strip and travelled through Egypt's Sinai desert to infiltrate into Israel, an Israeli official said. "They left Gaza through the south, went into the desert and came into Israel," the official said, referring to the Sinai peninsula on Gaza's border. Israel has a fortified border with Hamas-ruled Gaza and Palestinians there have at times used the Sinai as a conduit for arms and fighters.

I wonder how they gathered this intelligence. And if they knew about it, why didn't the stop it?

This is really starting to stink already.

reply to post by JohhnyBGood
I am neither anti-Israeli, morally blind or retarded. I understand the need for Israel to
have security and stable borders also. But the situation they have created in gaza is inhumane
and their policy of collective punishment for all because of the actions of the few are clearly
obvious to anyone looking at the situation from the outside. Its morally unjustifiable any way
you look at it. There are two sides to every argument, I sugest you try to understand the
situation from the palestinian viewpoint for once, rather than just entrenching yourself
on one side of the argument.

reply to post by mamabeth


I respect your right to have an opinion on the subject. Personally I believe it is better to have an opinion, any opinion, than none at all. So thank you for answering me.

Now unfortunately, someone around here seems to think its OK to to go putting words in other people's mouths so to avoid any misrepresentation, would you care to explain why you are 100% in support of Israel?

Originally posted by casinoed
reply to post by DerbyCityLights

 

Because it is not possible to criticize Israel without being anti-semitic, apparently.

What does that make the quarter of a million protesting against the Israeli government? According to your reasoning they must be anti-semitic too!

Nice bit of crooked logic there. That is not what I said. It is the constant criticizing of Israel that I was referring to. You cant even go one hour around here without someone spreading antisemitic hate speech here on ATS.

Israeli military reactions are tantamount to a kid bloodying a bullys nose. Only in this case, the bully is to stupid to realize they are bleeding.

reply to post by DerbyCityLights


But how is it so that criticizing Israel automatically qualifies someone as anti-semitic or a Nazi? I am pretty certain that nobody has yet said anything that could be considered anti-semitic. But still you threw it in there, that old knee-jerk response. Israel is being criticized, they must hate Jews. Crooked logic indeed.

Now I challenge you, where is the hate speech?

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


wow. what are your post is pointing to is an unmistakable false flag. no matter your position on this thread or isreal, dont you feel it very plausible that this could very well be and is a false flag? america is their closest ally and we know about their false flags. do you believe isreal is above their closest ally and would never cause a false flag to further their agenda?

reply to post by DerbyCityLights

Israeli military reactions are tantamount to a kid bloodying a bullys nose.

Interesting analogy and perhaps it depends on one's perspective. But some would argue that, to borrow your analogy, the 'bully' is a starving wee bugger forced to live as a refugee while your 'brave kid' lives in a big expensive house, takes steroids, has the biggest bully in school as his best mate....oh and a nuclear arsenal.

reply to post by letscit


I'm not exactly sure to which post of mine you are mentioning. Also I am not sure if I properly understood your post. It also appears you may have misunderstood my intentions as well.

I think this has false flag written all over it, but of course all the facts are still coming in so we can only speculate.

We all know Mossad's motto is "By way of deception", so it is only common sense to question anything that happens in that area. Especially when certain groups benefit from certain occurrences.

Only one group has benifited from this attack, and that is Israel. I pity the loss of life even if it were IDF. But this gives Israel good reason in the public eye to bomb the # out of who ever they want to in that region now.

We all know Israel has been saber rattling for quite sometime and have been waiting for the perfect opportunity to take out some "Islamic Militants".

I hope that clarifies things my friend.

just a thought. could this be a false flag to de-populate more parts of gaza for more settlements? ive read where they are okaying the construction of of more settlements. now if this land they are building on is over-populated, wouldnt it make sense to just eradicate the population and that free's up the land for the settlements they want. if they start bombing the best land then that may give you the answer. but i thought they where okay with just beating the owners up and taking it. maybe that drew to much attention and criticism. eliminate the problem and the land is your for the taking.

maybe just for another land grab. here is the link

www.sott.net...

The Israeli government has authorised the construction of 277 homes in the West Bank settlement of Ariel, a move that will diminish the prospects for a resumption of peace talks with the Palestinians

seems this could have all been in the cards for a little while.

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776

Originally posted by Atzil321
No doubt a massive disprortionate response will be launched against the long suffering
palestinians in gaza...

Disproportionate? Ok, I propose Israel count how many mortars, rockets, etc... were fired and fire the exact same amount at them. Proportionate enough?

Ok I say we count the amount of bombs and bullets America has fired on the world and send that at the American civilians, good idea? what's that?, no, you're an absolute hypocrite? ok then, lol. Nothing worse than a zionist gimp.

Let's see what America really thinks of Israel, and then ask why they still get American support? Clealry because they own the American government.

In 2001, the Washington Times ran a story about a 68 page research paper
issued by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS). The research
was compiled by 60 US Army officers as an attempt to predict the possible
outcomes of deploying a US force to maintain peace between the Israel and
Palestinians. Here's what SAMS had to say about the Israeli military
machine:

"a 500 pound gorilla in Israel. Well armed and trained. Operates in both
Gaza and the West Bank. Known to disregard international law to accomplish
mission"

Of Israel's Mossad, the officers issued this warning:

"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make
it look like a Palestinian Arab act."

Originally posted by Atzil321
reply to post by JohhnyBGood

 

I am neither anti-Israeli, morally blind or retarded. I understand the need for Israel to
have security and stable borders also. But the situation they have created in gaza is inhumane
and their policy of collective punishment for all because of the actions of the few are clearly
obvious to anyone looking at the situation from the outside. Its morally unjustifiable any way
you look at it. There are two sides to every argument, I sugest you try to understand the
situation from the palestinian viewpoint for once, rather than just entrenching yourself
on one side of the argument.

Why don't you try and understand the Palarab perspective, as they themselves understand it - instead of viewing it from your Western liberal perspective!

They view themselves as muslims engaged in a holy war against their eternal enemies the Jews, in which the only acceptable outcome is the death of every single Israei.

In the meantime since the Arabs are not militarily strong enough and after having suffered the excruciating humiliation of utter defeat twice before - they have created the 'palestinians' and opted for a moral inversion propaganda campaign of undermining the West's support for Israel - by using the leftist media to portray themselves as the David to Israel's (nazi) Goliath.

And that is the retarded bit: - because it is so obvious and plain to see, that you have to be willfully blind not to see it! - there is even a quote from a PLO leader in an ungaurded interview spelling it out!

member of P.L.O. leadership, Zahir Muhsein, the leader of the al-Sa'iqa Organization, revealed the truth in an interview to the Dutch newspaper Trouw:

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese.

Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa.
While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."

www.out-of-zion.com...

reply to post by casinoed


Again fair enough...
I support Israel because they are G-d's chosen people.
Salvation is to the jew first,then the gentile.